SEC Bylaw 14.01.3.2

[Skipper]

"If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student- athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career."

Where are you Mike Slive? I guess he is still contemplating suspending Pearl more for giving a kid a chesseburger and doesn't have time for this right now.:shrug:

What Slive did by suspending Pearl opened a can of worms that he will not be able to handle. It's a slippery slope, unless the conference has a chance to win a national championship.

 

[Cie]

"If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student- athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career."

Where are you Mike Slive? I guess he is still contemplating suspending Pearl more for giving a kid a chesseburger and doesn't have time for this right now.:shrug:

What Slive did by suspending Pearl opened a can of worms that he will not be able to handle. It's a slippery slope, unless the conference has a chance to win a national championship.

My opinion.......

Slive wants the BCS money for the conference, so you would not have to twist his arm to skirt the rules.

The NCAA does not want TCU in the title game. They prefer to allow Cam to remain eligible, then can address the situation retroactively, but long after they received the ratings that they desire for the title game.

Also, they do not have all of the facts yet, and will not until the feds complete their investigation.

 

[Skipper]

"a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance"

Is this not clear yet? It may not be, but it was my understanding that the NCAA said since it was his father, then Cam was ok. The SEC rule is different and will be very interesting if this is not inforced based on what Slime did to Pearl.

Don't get me wrong, I think Pearl should have been fired for lying to the NCAA; however by the SEC stepping in, it makes this very interesting.

Slippery slope Mike Slive, and I love that the attention goes to him now and away from the NCAA and Auburn. What will he do?:shrug:

 

[Skipper]

From the NCAA:

"According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athlete?s father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newton?s commitment to attend college and play football. NCAA rules (Bylaw 12.3.3) do not allow individuals or entities to represent a prospective student-athlete for compensation to a school for an athletic scholarship."

SEC:

"a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance"

:shrug:

I would love to see Oregon-Auburn in the BCS title game, and would pull for Auburn the whole game. I just want Mike Slive to look like the piece of shit hypocrite he is. Maybe the conference office should move out of Birmingham.:shrug:

 

[joefrog91]

My opinion.......

Slive wants the BCS money for the conference, so you would not have to twist his arm to skirt the rules.

The NCAA does not want TCU in the title game. They prefer to allow Cam to remain eligible, then can address the situation retroactively, but long after they received the ratings that they desire for the title game.

Also, they do not have all of the facts yet, and will not until the feds complete their investigation.

Like I've said before, I really don't care, but when has "having all the facts" ever stopped the NCAA from suspending a kid? Isn't there a Kentucky basketball player that is suspended indefinitely right now for his parents not knowing the rules on accepting money? Cecil Newton knew the rules and still asked for money.

 

[Corley1011]

There's a MSU one who is still sitting out and they never found any wrong doing...

 

[Cie]

Like I've said before, I really don't care, but when has "having all the facts" ever stopped the NCAA from suspending a kid? Isn't there a Kentucky basketball player that is suspended indefinitely right now for his parents not knowing the rules on accepting money? Cecil Newton knew the rules and still asked for money.

It would appear that the NCAA is not interested in TCU in the title game. No offense intended, but netiher am I.

 

[TLankford]

"receive or agrees to receive"

Think you're missing something here even though you bolded it... how could Cecil have agreed to receive something if there was never an offer on the table from MSU? It would take MSU actually putting up some kind of $ amount and saying you know how does that sound. For him to have the opportunity to "agree to receive" anything.

Kenny Rogers going out and telling MSU recruiters/booster that it's gonna take $$$ to get Cam to go there doesn't = any kind of agreement.

just my interpretation which is worth 0 but whatever. :0008

 

[joefrog91]

It would appear that the NCAA is not interested in TCU in the title game. No offense intended, but netiher am I.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I've never understood that line of thought. Colin Cowturd is the biggest critic of any big bowl game that doesn't include USC, OU, TX, Alabama, Florida or Ohio St.

I'm a fan of college football. If the two teams are just plain bad, then I'll turn off the game or not watch it at all. But, if you have a great storyline about a team from a non-AQ conference that has become a solid program over the years (TCU, Boise St, Utah) then why not want to see how they do against one of the big boys of college football. To me, any fan of college football would be thrilled to watch how it turns out.

Do I want to see Middle Tennessee St play Auburn for the NCG? No, but that's because they suck. If they were a good team that's been winning conference championships for many years and now finally have a chance to play for it all, then my answer would be yes.

People like what they like and will never change. I don't like mustard. I gag every time I even smell it. I don't use ketchup on my fries. I guess I just have to chalk it up to personal preference and stop worrying about it.

 

[Corley1011]

Every year we go through the same thing regarding TCU and Boise, Boise's debacle last week excludes them this year, but why do we rank these teams so high every year but not think they should play for a NC? My thoughts are if they don't want them playing for a NC because of their schedule, then stop ranking them in the top 5... If they go undefeated and are Top 5, then they should have every right to play for it...

 

[Emersonboozer]

This issue is getting ridiculous. Its very clear that college programs will offer an athlete compensation for that athletes commitment. Lets not be naive here. Its been going on for a long time and the NCAA knows it very well. Its just once some disgruntled person makes it public the NCAA tries to act like they are surprised. Theyll allow Newton to win the Heisman and then take it away a yr later ala Reggie Bush. Its hilarious.:0008

 

[Skipper]

"receive or agrees to receive"

Think you're missing something here even though you bolded it... how could Cecil have agreed to receive something if there was never an offer on the table from MSU? It would take MSU actually putting up some kind of $ amount and saying you know how does that sound. For him to have the opportunity to "agree to receive" anything.

Kenny Rogers going out and telling MSU recruiters/booster that it's gonna take $$$ to get Cam to go there doesn't = any kind of agreement.

just my interpretation which is worth 0 but whatever. :0008

Lankford - read it over and over, and it is "wordy", but did daddy not "agree indirectly"?

The NCAA report seemed to say that.

My issue is with Slime at the SEC office super-ceding the NCAA by suspending Pearl for 8 games. When has this ever happened? Once this conference starts this, they better damn well make sure it applies to all.

I actually think this helps Auburn and takes their minds off of going to the title game and gives them more fuel to prove something. Hell it sure as shat made our basketball team play well this past weekend.

It is all a joke when it comes to the NCAA and now, the commish of the SEC Mike Slime.

 

[TLankford]

it is wordy indeed. I know they said before that they go on a case by case basis. so it's really up to the NCAA to decide who they fvck and who they let slide. that is a tough pill to swallow for people who have been "hammered" before.

People on radio down here (josh moon, mcknight, finebaum, etc) saying now that it's starting to look like the "recruiter" that was on the other end of the phone talking about pay for play was actually Mullen's wife. rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper.

also schad or whever said originally "at least 2 recruiters at MSU" has now changed his story to "at least 1 recruiter". Just a lot of people going back and changing little details in their original stories.

 

[TLankford]

sorry i didn't answer your original question. The "was there an agreement" whether direct or indirect is up to whoever is in charge to judge. I don't see how you can call it any kind of agreement if nobody ever offers. If you look at who made "offers" it wasn't Cecil... unless I'm just forgetting part of a story which there's been so freakin many in the last month give me some slack.

Cecil: "it's not gonna be free this time" "gonna take more than a scholarship"

Kenny: "it will take anywhere from 180k - 200k"

if u look at it like that, Cecil is shopping but never actually making a deal of any kind (that anyone can prove). Saying its not gonna be free or that you need more than a scholarship isn't agreeing on anything. agreement has to have some kind of terms IMO.

Kenny however could be seen as some kind of agreement but he's been kinda booted from the whole story because he's a sleaze ball.

 

[TLankford]

do you think the Pearl situation is more like an example they wanted to make for that other crooked ass SEC east bball coach? kinda like look callipari this is what this guy gets for this if you fvck up like memphis just wait and see what happens to you

 

[Skipper]

do you think the Pearl situation is more like an example they wanted to make for that other crooked ass SEC east bball coach? kinda like look callipari this is what this guy gets for this if you fvck up like memphis just wait and see what happens to you

Could be. It is hard to know but I was told today by a source that this was organized to try and keep the NCAA from banning them from the tourney.

Hell eight games and a few million I would think would do the trick. Calamari is like Tarkanian, he will just run and ruin another program and leave scandal in his wake.

I will have much more respect for Pearl if he sticks it out and stays here. I am a show me not tell me, kind of guy.

GL to your boys on Sat. I am taking the points with the ball coach, but think Auburn eeks it out in the end. I see Auburn as one of those "destiny" kind of teams.

Plus, I want to see Oregon-Auburn real, real bad.

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