Kirby Smart

[Skipper]

IMO there are a list of coaches that are all about the same. Urban, Saban, Brown, Stoops, Tressel, Spurrier, and a few I haven't listed. They all get great recruiting classes and the only thing that seperates them from year to year depends on which program gets the "special" player out of the bunch. Tebow, Young, Bush, Newton, etc.

Layinwood - you and I have seen eye to eye on a few things today, but I think you are spot on.

When Tebow was around - Urban Meyer was the best in the country.

Bama beats FLA so Saban is the best.

Bama loses 3 games, so now it is someone else.

Hell, Fulmer at one time had the best record of any coach.

Peterson and Patterson ain't too damn bad either.

Ask yourself this, would John Wooden have won so many in a row without Sweet Lew Alcinder and Bill Walton?
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[Cie]

Good thoughts, fellas. IMO, Saban's record in BCS games and titles with two teams sets him apart from the others.

I have it now as Saban on top, then Meyer. 3-10 are too close to call imo. The majority filled up by a group including the usual suspects, plus one more guy.

This may surprise some based on my normal anti-miles commentary, but I'll throw Les Miles into a current top 5 to 10 HC discussion with his 79% at LSU, 10-1 OOC record vs BCS teams, winning both appearances BCS bowls, a national title and 4-1 in bowls overall. Did I mention his 8-5 record vs Tressel, Saban, Meyer and Spurrier?

These are his quality OOC wins:

Miami
Ohio St
ND
WV
V Tech
G Tech
UNC
ASU
Washington
Arizona

vs. a single OOC loss to Penn St last year on a very poor, and possibly equalizing, field.

His recruiting numbers speak for themselves, and he oversaw the turnaround of Okie St earlier this decade.

Aside from poor clock management on about 8 occasions and a slew of goofy quotes, this guy is top 5 on paper. I drop him for those things, but maybe not as far as most.


I get the feeling that Miles is not highly regarded nationally, but I can assure you he is not liked locally. Curious what others think about this.......

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[layinwood]

I think Les is awesome and definitely one of "the" coaches. I'm not sure how anyone can argue other wise.

 

[Skipper]

Good thoughts, fellas. IMO, Saban's record in BCS games and titles with two teams sets him apart from the others.

I have it now as Saban on top, then Meyer. 3-10 are too close to call imo. The majority filled up by a group including the usual suspects, plus one more guy.

This may surprise some based on my normal anti-miles commentary, but I'll throw Les Miles into a current top 5 to 10 HC discussion with his 79% at LSU, 10-1 OOC record vs BCS teams, winning both appearances BCS bowls, a national title and 4-1 in bowls overall. Did I mention his 8-5 record vs Tressel, Saban, Meyer and Spurrier?

These are his quality OOC wins:

Miami
Ohio St
ND
WV
V Tech
G Tech
UNC
ASU
Washington
Arizona

vs. a single OOC loss to Penn St last year on a very poor, and possibly equalizing, field.

His recruiting numbers speak for themselves, and he oversaw the turnaround of Okie St earlier this decade.

Aside from poor clock management on about 8 occasions and a slew of goofy quotes, this guy is top 5 on paper. I drop him for those things, but maybe not as far as most.


I get the feeling that Miles is not highly regarded nationally, but I can assure you he is not liked locally. Curious what others think about this.......

:0corn

NO ONE would be given the full support of all LSU fans when Saban left, so I don't know if it is as much Miles as it is "the next guy".

To me - I love the guy. The guy has the balls to make the calls that NO ONE in CFB would make. The funny thing, is that I cannot remember one that didn't work. Take the cluster fuck ending of the UT/LSU game. It was dumb, but he had Dooley and the UT players not knowing who the hell was coming in or out.

His soundbytes are priceless. He seems like a great guy and it looks like his players love him by playing hard for him.

I will give you my best analogy:

I think Miles is a lot like Bill Clinton for me. I don't know if I want them running the business, but they sure as shit would be fun to hang out with.

 

[UGA12]

Good thoughts, fellas. IMO, Saban's record in BCS games and titles with two teams sets him apart from the others.

I have it now as Saban on top, then Meyer. 3-10 are too close to call imo. The majority filled up by a group including the usual suspects, plus one more guy.

This may surprise some based on my normal anti-miles commentary, but I'll throw Les Miles into a current top 5 to 10 HC discussion with his 79% at LSU, 10-1 OOC record vs BCS teams, winning both appearances BCS bowls, a national title and 4-1 in bowls overall. Did I mention his 8-5 record vs Tressel, Saban, Meyer and Spurrier?

These are his quality OOC wins:

Miami
Ohio St
ND
WV
V Tech
G Tech
UNC
ASU
Washington
Arizona

vs. a single OOC loss to Penn St last year on a very poor, and possibly equalizing, field.

His recruiting numbers speak for themselves, and he oversaw the turnaround of Okie St earlier this decade.

Aside from poor clock management on about 8 occasions and a slew of goofy quotes, this guy is top 5 on paper. I drop him for those things, but maybe not as far as most.


I get the feeling that Miles is not highly regarded nationally, but I can assure you he is not liked locally. Curious what others think about this.......

:0corn

From the outside looking in he appears to be a goofball with a horseshoe up his ass. Now he obviously knows football because you dont smoke and mirror your way to big time d1 jobs, but he steps in a lot of shit yet never comes away with a brown foot. His record speaks for itself and bums as some think he is simply dont achieve what he has. I can see how players would love playing for him. He has their back(even if he does say stupid shit from time to time) and he is willing to gamble in order to win. I am not real sure what to think, but I have a feeling I know what will happen if that "horseshoe" falls out for a season.

 

[Betone]

Les is definately an anomaly vs most of the high profile coaches due to public perception. His record is stellar and ranks within the top ten coaches. Thinking that he is a players coach and that he makes decisions on the field that support his players beliefs and not the common fan base. This reason alone to me is why he has had the success with some questionable play calls. Not Luck..... the players know he is making these decisions with them and not for them. Just my take as I think he needs to be in the discussions as a top ten coach today.

 

[Cie]

 

[UGA12]

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