Was about to unload on TB, but this line has dropped from 6 to 4.5????
Anyone have any info.........????
Anyone have any info.........????
Lions/Bucs line dropping???????
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I can't find anything......I have this game not even close in favor of TB. Going with my numbers! BUCS LARGE!!
bucs defense suffered some injuries as of late. - not that any other team hasnt, though maybe coupled with desperation of redskins, made bucs defense out to look very suspect against the run: torain 24-172 (poor conditions as well?-rain) talib is out, though honestly, in limited action that i saw his replacement, was impressed to be able to have faith to do abmirable job in filling in, though CB is NOT the place to look to shore up run defense.
detroits defense, also running into injury bug, lost a motor of a defender in vandenbosch, though have weathered the storm decently (minus a second half vs. NE). they too made a change at CB, though more out of decision (vasher over alphonso smith). detroit was able to run, though couldnt pass against green bay last week, though managed only 7 points, which held up to be enough vs. a matt flynn led packers team (threw a costly int inside det's 10 yd line). freeman now has a feel for the entirety of his weapons available to him, in more than JUST mike williams (arrelious benn, kellen winslow making noise since williams' run in with law - maybe jus coincindentally).
blounte had a lackluster game LW vs WASH that given conditions skins made look like, shoulda helped his cause, though a costly fumble at end of big run went the other way, shortening the field for what is, a usually offensively inept wash offense.
in short: detroit CAN run, and hit the big play anytime with calvin johnson. TB can equally run, though are more plodding offensively (heard on broadcast that benn's catch 64 yds? was longest by TB all yr).
i would give the slight edge to DET's defense, as the eye test looks as if they can be equally decent vs both pass and run (so long is not pat's goin up against). Freeman has surpassed expectations -even for me. i was TB supporter coming into this year, though have fallen off some with their need to win soo many games late--though- it must be noted, they are winning.
after LW's poor showing against wash, even seeing poor run D, was sold, in my mind that TB would be covering # this week, regardless of opponent, though balked when learned it was DET (as have been on wrong side of them all year). TB is 0-3 ATS L3, DET 2-0 L2 - trend has me lean TB's way, though everytime i go against detroit they rally late against a squad, that seems disinterested in keeping foot on their throat- that somehow keeps them IN games late to cover. i'd be weary of anything more than 3 - as i see this being a FG throughout, though stanton being unable to lead final drive, bucs holding on for slim (not-come-from-behind) win.
det's sched looks tougher, and with revolving door of QBs have managed to score over 30, 3 times. 44 output vs stl, 32-35 early season L to phi, and 37-25 win over wash -all were at HOME. TB has only scored 30 points or more twice 38-35 win vs arz and 31-16 win vs car.
GL though...
detroits defense, also running into injury bug, lost a motor of a defender in vandenbosch, though have weathered the storm decently (minus a second half vs. NE). they too made a change at CB, though more out of decision (vasher over alphonso smith). detroit was able to run, though couldnt pass against green bay last week, though managed only 7 points, which held up to be enough vs. a matt flynn led packers team (threw a costly int inside det's 10 yd line). freeman now has a feel for the entirety of his weapons available to him, in more than JUST mike williams (arrelious benn, kellen winslow making noise since williams' run in with law - maybe jus coincindentally).
blounte had a lackluster game LW vs WASH that given conditions skins made look like, shoulda helped his cause, though a costly fumble at end of big run went the other way, shortening the field for what is, a usually offensively inept wash offense.
in short: detroit CAN run, and hit the big play anytime with calvin johnson. TB can equally run, though are more plodding offensively (heard on broadcast that benn's catch 64 yds? was longest by TB all yr).
i would give the slight edge to DET's defense, as the eye test looks as if they can be equally decent vs both pass and run (so long is not pat's goin up against). Freeman has surpassed expectations -even for me. i was TB supporter coming into this year, though have fallen off some with their need to win soo many games late--though- it must be noted, they are winning.
after LW's poor showing against wash, even seeing poor run D, was sold, in my mind that TB would be covering # this week, regardless of opponent, though balked when learned it was DET (as have been on wrong side of them all year). TB is 0-3 ATS L3, DET 2-0 L2 - trend has me lean TB's way, though everytime i go against detroit they rally late against a squad, that seems disinterested in keeping foot on their throat- that somehow keeps them IN games late to cover. i'd be weary of anything more than 3 - as i see this being a FG throughout, though stanton being unable to lead final drive, bucs holding on for slim (not-come-from-behind) win.
det's sched looks tougher, and with revolving door of QBs have managed to score over 30, 3 times. 44 output vs stl, 32-35 early season L to phi, and 37-25 win over wash -all were at HOME. TB has only scored 30 points or more twice 38-35 win vs arz and 31-16 win vs car.
GL though...
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On pfw they said "TB has lost 7 starters from their offense/defense in the past 3 weeks."
A bit of esoterica.......
Give away/take away, Det and TB are tied at +7.
Det has been under valued all year. Line off which is a running sum of a teams record vs the line, Det is 3rd best in the nfc (gb 52, atl 51, Det 50) and 5th best in the entire nfl. Curiously, Oak is 2, at 57. All trail NE who sits on top with 95. But they added 80 of that in the last 3 weeks. Some numbers you wouldn't guess. N.O is -7. Minn is -53. Den is -85. Lowest in all of the nfl is Car at -100.
A bit of esoterica.......
Give away/take away, Det and TB are tied at +7.
Det has been under valued all year. Line off which is a running sum of a teams record vs the line, Det is 3rd best in the nfc (gb 52, atl 51, Det 50) and 5th best in the entire nfl. Curiously, Oak is 2, at 57. All trail NE who sits on top with 95. But they added 80 of that in the last 3 weeks. Some numbers you wouldn't guess. N.O is -7. Minn is -53. Den is -85. Lowest in all of the nfl is Car at -100.
