2 Letters from one of our Troops...

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With all this recent talk in the forum of the war and political agenda I thought I would add this to put things in perspective...


Greeting Everyone,

The sandbox, as we like to call it, sucks. The meals at night and in the morning are hot but Pakistanis or Indians serve them. Kuwait seems to be the richest country in the world, if you are a Kuwaiti citizen you don?t have to work; the government gives you an allowance. Because of that non-citizens do all the shit work in the country. I never eat at the chow hall; at another camp they caught Pakistanis food workers trying to poison Marines. All I get there is coffee cause it is made w/ boiling water. Another thing they do here is have gas attack drills. They make you put on your gas mask and work in it. It is unbelievable w/ all the heat & sand flying around. We were in the mask for 10 hours yesterday. Yet another thing that sucks is all the false alarm sirens going off. An alarm will sound in the middle of the night indicating we are under attack. You have to wake up and man fighting holes for about a half hour until they give it the all clear. Needless to say we are all exhausted and forever weary.

A few days after the air war is over or even while it is ongoing, we will be hauling ass into Iraq past the Euphrates River.
We have to cross it as soon as possible because there is the very real possibility that Saddam might blow his dams and flood the area. Saddam has also run power lines through the marshy areas which he can charge and set up sort of an electrical swamp which would slow the ground forces up

Other than that it keeps getting hotter and am dreading the month of May, which I hear it becomes unbearable. The military chaplain gave us a talk about the horrible choices we may have to make. Including hitting children. Apparently Saddam has groups of children from 8-14 years of age, ?Saddam?s Orphans? as he calls them who he is training as suicide bombers. Obviously we dread the fact that some of us possibly might have to face a choice like that. I am appalled that he could be training children for such a mission. We have also been instructed to engage any Iraqi military or police forces that are seen firing on or using force against their own people. Maybe we will be able to do some good after all over here.

We still have not gotten any mail and people are starting to get pissed, especially the Marines w/ a wife and a kid. Other than that we just work and wait for this war to start. They are building an airfield a 1000yds away from my camp so they can launch warplanes. We are so close to Iraq that I guess it makes sense. I?ll write again soon.




Greetings from Kuwait where the weather never gets better and things never change. We have been doing the same things day in and day out which makes things seem quite repetitious. I have been working for the past few days at a remote location around the base. Actually it is not really a base but a set of camps placed a mile apart in the desert surrounded by a 12? high dirt wall w/ guard towers and roaming security. The location I am at is close to the British Royal Marines so I swing by from time to time and shoot the shit with them. Nice guys, very tough as well. They have access to Coke and cigarettes that we do not so we trade and I bring the smokes back to my guys. It?s funny how much even a Coke means.
It is funny looking around here and seeing how many people are beat up, run down, and sick. Strep throat has ransacked the camp, and with out good shower facilities, cleanliness is nonexistent so people all spread it to each other.
I have been going on security patrol 2 nights a week. We roll around the outer walls in a Hummer and look for infiltrates to the camp. Before these camps were here, migrants lived on this land. They are now just on the other side of the wall so they pop there heads up from time to time and try to come over. Usually pointing a weapon will send them back. They are harmless but it gets boring chasing them around in night vision goggles.
On a more serious note, the biological /chemical sensors are always picking up contaminates so we wear our gas mask a lot. I am more afraid of gas than I am of getting shot. We are moving within 2 miles of the Iraqi border within a couple of days so once things kick off we will be ready to cross. I look forward to seeing you all again upon my return, whenever that may be. Hopefully this war is quick. I have not yet received any mail. Things take forever in the military but write when you can, it is all we have to look forward to.
 
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Those letters really hit home! I'm assuming they're letters to you from friends. Do you think they'd appreciate mail from strangers?

If so, ask Jack for my e-mail addy and I'll drop them a line to let them know that I, for one, appreciate the Hell they're enduring so I can be fat, happy and free, here in the States!
 

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I will e-mail Jack to get both of your e-mail addresses. Sorry for the delay as I was out of town. I also have an address where people can get a solider as a pen pal which is a great idea. As my friend has said the only thing keeping these guys going right now is seeing if they have mail at the end of the day... and the war hasn't even started.
 

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BigDad2....I have a good friend who is from Flemington.He went to North Hunterdon High School.He then came to Tennessee and played football for the Vols.........get my email from Jack.I would love to show my support to the soliders.I already have a few friends who are stationed over in Kuwait...Thanks and God Bless our troops......
 

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I have a strong hunch you did not get these letters. (You didn't say one way or the other, but I suspect it is from an email of sorts.)

I am thinking it is a hoax.


I have some friends who are active right now, and when they email me, they all say the same thing:

"I can't tell you where I am, or anything about what we are doing."

They just say "hi" and "tell everyone I said hi".


Just a thought........and if they are real letters that you received, I feel for those guys.
 

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agreed yyz,
a LOT of info in those two letters that are no-nos for mailing home.
Of course, maybe they are legit and the poor guys just dont care, but I would doubt it.
 

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Jhpga - tell your friend that I went to Central and played football in '94 & '95 before blowing out my knee my senior year...
I'll get your e-mail and send you some information.

yyz & marine - I would expect a critical response from yyz but for marine to question as the authenticity of this letter makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe he wrote these not ever thinking it would be shown to others but I am attempting to put a little perspective to this pro-war forum. Also, since everyone here takes the time to post a message how hard would it be to write a letter to a complete stranger, yet still an American, who is fighting for your freedom to roam the internet and say what ever you want among other things.

I am not going to question you personally as obviously you've served your country but who the hell are you to say that this is false! Have you turned so critical about things that you believe everything must be false? Maybe what he wrote in the letter is considered a NO-NO but turning 25 and being in charge of 18,19,20 year-old kids ages you fast in circumstances like this. Not only that but my friend, who is basically a brother to me, was pulled from his last year in law school where he had a job lined up and was ready to graduate in May. While he did have the option of NOT going he sucked it up and took the less traveled and went down the hard road. If you would like I'll post other letters that he has sent as I have two of them. I think I'll stop now and go cool off before I write something to really piss off the both of you...

My only question to you is to imagine your son's best friend posting a letter to gain support for our troops and having a reality check of cynical people debating the authenticity of his motives...
 

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bigdad...

Both of them 'questioned' it and 'doubted' it, for their own reasons.

They didn't 'assert' that the letters were false.

The internet is filled with hoaxes. It's possible that Marine is concerned that troops are sending letters home with sensitive information in them. If these kinds of letters are NOT supposed to be written, then Marine is doing his fellow servicemen a service by casting doubt on them.

Definitely chill before writing something to piss them off. They have motives that are just as good as yours for having doubt about those letters.
 

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Shrimp is correct. If you had stated, "I received these letters from my friends." I would not have said a word.

There is so much shit on the internet that gets 'passed on' as genuine, it makes me sick.

This just sounded like a propaganda bomb.




Like I said........if this is actually happening, that's not good.
 

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yyz - taking a moment to step back perhaps I should have said that this was from a close friend but I had hoped to not bring my personal life into this although it greatly affects it. I rarely post and when I do it is with intention of saying something or reacting to something brought up. In this case I wanted to give a "Real" picture of what was going on aside from the nightly updates from CNN. Also, I wasn't sure if my friend would be at risk posting these reports for two reasons: 1) I have no idea who is reading this and monitoring these posts, which is a scary thought and 2) I have no idea what is and is not acceptable for Marines to write within their letters. When he went through boot camp I thought those letters were hard to read but this doesn't even compare. If I made even one person think about about what is going on and the people who's lives this war is directly impacting my job was done.
 

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Re: 2 Letters from a Marine in Kuwait...

Re: 2 Letters from a Marine in Kuwait...

bigdad2 said:


A few days after the air war is over or even while it is ongoing, we will be hauling ass into Iraq past the Euphrates River.
We have to cross it as soon as possible because there is the very real possibility that Saddam might blow his dams and flood the area. Saddam has also run power lines through the marshy areas which he can charge and set up sort of an electrical swamp which would slow the ground forces up

They are building an airfield a 1000yds away from my camp so they can launch warplanes. We are so close to Iraq that I guess it makes sense. I?ll write again soon.




Actually it is not really a base but a set of camps placed a mile apart in the desert surrounded by a 12? high dirt wall w/ guard towers and roaming security. The location I am at is close to the British Royal Marines so I swing by from time to time and shoot the shit with them.
Strep throat has ransacked the camp, and with out good shower facilities, cleanliness is nonexistent so people all spread it to each other.
*****I have been going on security patrol 2 nights a week. We roll around the outer walls in a Hummer and look for infiltrates to the camp. Before these camps were here, migrants lived on this land. They are now just on the other side of the wall so they pop there heads up from time to time and try to come over. Usually pointing a weapon will send them back. They are harmless but it gets boring chasing them around in night vision goggles. ******
On a more serious note, the biological /chemical sensors are always picking up contaminates so we wear our gas mask a lot. I am more afraid of gas than I am of getting shot. We are moving within 2 miles of the Iraqi border within a couple of days so once things kick off we will be ready to cross.


Dude,
I didnt come right out and say blah blah blah this is bullsh!t and an out and out lie and media propaganda. All I said was that it contained a lot of info in it and there was a chance it was a hoax. Like was stated above, earlier, the internet is full of these "chain letter" things and what not. How are we sposed to know if its real or not?
But, just to legitimize my previous incorrect error, I highlighted the portions that drew red flags from me reading and made me think twice about the real possibilities these were ficticious.
Hope you understand my perspective from reading it.
 

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Marine - thanks for clarifying. I understand where you are coming from and hopefully everyone knows where I stand. To be honest there really isn't a minute that goes by where I am not thinking of him. Like I said it's as though my own brother is there which makes things tough. Thankfully I will be on a much needed vacation for the next four days but even so with the war actually starting I'm not sure how much it will help. My thoughts and prayers goes out to all of our troops and especially all of their loved ones over here...
 
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