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From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
"Trump?s immigration order is a reasonable step"

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Paul Heckbert 11 hours ago
Trump's immigration policy is xenophobic and it hurts our country. Not only is it immoral, but it deprives our country of the talents of the immigrants, it weakens our intelligence-gathering, and it is a gift to ISIS recruiters. Moderate Muslims in the Middle East will now be more tempted to think "Wow, the US is declaring war on Muslims! I guess ISIS was right!" And this ban is not going to stop terrorists, since we've had a cautious and thorough screening process for years - it typically takes two years to get a visa to come here from a country like Syria. So Trump's policies won't reduce terrorism, they'll make it worse! It's tragic to see Trump weakening America.
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Ron White 5 hours ago
And as always, when you disagree with a liberal, they call names and place labels. Sad.
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Ellie Shapiro 3 hours ago
You got it.

Liberals profess to be tolerant compared to their conservative counterparts. The truth is that liberals are only tolerant of people with whom they agree. Rather than using civil discourse to debate conservative thought, liberals seem to have an inherent tendency to demonize and demean the human value of their political opponents. If you oppose higher taxes and bigger government, it's because you are a greedy, selfish person. If you oppose affirmative action, it's because you are a racist. If you support enforcement of our immigration laws, you are bigot or a rabid dog.
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Jim Baird 5 hours ago
Let's step back to Obama's "Red Line". Had Obama been a strong and decisive leader instead of an apologist, this immigration crisis would not be happening. The middle east has fallen into chaos under his watch. The left needs to step back and let the current administration sort it out.
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Ellie Shapiro 3 hours ago
RABBI SHMULEY: Obama Created Refugee Crisis. Trump Should End It.

The Syrian refugee crisis did not begin under Donald Trump, who is in office for 10 days. Rather, it came about through the callous and indifferent foreign policy of Barack Obama who refused to intervene in Syria, even as the slaughter there turned to genocide. Sunni Muslims, including children in Damascus and Aleppo, were being slaughtered by Shia militias, and Assad?s Alawite government, with the active support of Hezbollah and Iran. Obama did nothing.
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Donald Winner306 3 hours ago

How about if i give you there 1000 grapes but understand 3 of them have been poisoned and these is no antidote. When will you start to eat them?

Come on big mouth step up to plate and swallow a few dozen.
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Anonymous 12 hours ago
Ridiculous. Trump decided not to include Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates because he has immense business enterprises in those countries, despite the fact that most of the terrorists that launched attacks here have origins in those countries ( none came from the countries he has targeted).
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Alberto Alphonso 12 hours ago
As the writer accurately states, the seven countries were actually identified by the Obama administration.
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Paul Heckbert 10 hours ago
See video here for a tally of Americans killed by people from those countries: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/zakaria-take-executive-order-cnntv/
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Alberto Alphonso 6 hours ago
I've heard it before. None of the Islamic terrorists were from the 7 countries identified. And if any were I'm sure liberals would still vilify Trump anyway? The point is that these countries were identified (by Obama) as having a high likelihood of supporting Islamic terrorism and ISIS has said it wants to use refugees. Let's be prudent and try to identify potential risks before they enter the country. Remember, Trump has already stated that the U.S. will admit 50,000 refugees a year and once they are in the country it is much harder to detect potential terrorist threats, especially for the FBI these days.

Relax. It's a TEMPORARY ban (i.e. suspension). Trump has already changed the green card exception.
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Cee Elle 6 hours ago
And that TEMPORARY ban is likely to have PERMANENT negative effects in our fight against terror.

As Senators Graham and McCain stated, this ban does more to hurt than help.
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Alberto Alphonso 5 hours ago
1. Let's face it.... no matter what Trump does liberals will probably not like it.

2. I'm tired of worrying that radical Muslims who already hate us enough to want to kill us, will now hate us even more. What's the difference?

3. Graham and McCain are entitled to their opinions. Not everything Trump does will get the support of all Republicans and that's OK.

4. Spicer said it correctly. The U.S. is granting a privilege to refugees and immigrants who want to enter this country. It is not a right and we should do it on our terms. They are free to immigrate to other countries.
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William Price 4 hours ago
Cee - No matter what we do, they don't like us anyways. Europe bent over for these people and they still terrorize them. Their terror is not going to stop.
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Donald Winner306 7 hours ago
Odd how these countries all gave the Clintons tons of money too!
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William Price 6 hours ago
Point well taken.
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Cee Elle 6 hours ago
No they didn't.
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William Price 4 hours ago
Yes. They did give money to HER.
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Donald Winner306 3 hours ago
With the exception of turkey they gave her millions upon millions! In fact the saudi's gave her 50 millions just before she signed on a jet fighter deal.
"While Clinton?s State Department was deeply invested in getting weapons to Saudi Arabia, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars in donations from both the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the weapons manufacturer Boeing. Christmas presents were being gifted all around."
http://www.codepink.org/saudi_s_exploding_christmas_gifts
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Donald Winner306 3 hours ago
These very same countries gave hillary how many millions? Trump is just carrying on the Obama trend.
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David Hartz 31 minutes ago
Then you should be really angry at him!
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Oren Spiegler 9 hours ago
Anyone who believes that the slipshod, haphazard Executive Order of last Friday is not a ban on Muslims should consider the fact that a Muslim ban is precisely what Mr. Trump publicly espoused until he had to back away from it after the heat became too intense. The country whose natives have posed the greatest threat to us is Saudi Arabia, yet its residents remain free to come here. I wonder if the writer feels that the detaining of individuals at airports was good thing, whether the roundup went "very nicely" and was carried out "professionally" as the president had the audacity to say. "Anonymous" is correct. There is every reason to conclude that a man whose life has been dedicated solely to the accumulation of wealth and boasting about it left off the banned list those countries in which he has business interests.
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Alberto Alphonso 6 hours ago
Please show me evidence where Trump stated a permanent ban on Muslims. All I heard was a temporary suspension which is exactly what he is now doing.
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Jim Baird 4 hours ago
90% of the world's Muslims are still free to travel to the USA. Hardly a Muslim ban but hey, if you want to whip the left wing whackos into a frenzy, you have to resort to lies.
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Ron White 3 hours ago
I never heard of ANY temporary ban on Muslims specifically. Do you have a source for that Oren?
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John Port4 hours ago
Kudos to Trump. This is something that should have been going on since 9/12/01. We are actually years late in doing something about it.
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William Price 3 hours ago
JP - Whoa. Is this the unions position on immigration? I love my Starbucks coffee, but they plan on giving 10,000 union jobs to refugees. Can that happen? Does the union have a visa program?
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John Port 3 hours ago
C'mon Billy. That's always been my position on these crazies is to make sure they aren't crazy. My only real concern is worker's right's. I am pretty conservative on most issues, guns, abortion, affirmative action. You should not paint everyone with such a wide brush. Trump is doing good on the trade issues and he is meeting with building trade union leaders. (FYI GW Bush and our carpenter main man were pretty close). My problem with Trump is his labor secretary. Eisenhower's was head of the plumbers union.
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Ken Hennessy 2 hours ago
It should have always remained an economic issue, in taking American jobs for cheap labor. This practice went too far with the consent of the GOP, and their need for cheap labor. This should not be a xenophobic issue, but it has turned into one because we waited to long as Mr. Port has stated.
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Joe Giannamore 10 hours ago
Trump's approval rating will rise in the next week.
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William Price 7 hours ago
Agree. Liberalism gets the opposite results and the hysteria will get worse.
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Rudolph Jaconetta 7 hours ago
I'm guessing she might feel different if they banned women from whatever country she came from? If this is "reasonable" why are the countries Trump does business with not included? Why not Saudi Arabia the country that produced most of the 9-11 terrorists?
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Ginny Gandolfo 7 hours ago
Read the news and you will see why these 7 countries and how they were Obama's target nations. Geeze, don't be a low information reader and commentor.
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Cee Elle 6 hours ago
You can't seriously sit there with a straight face and blame Barack Obama for this idiotic ban.
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Ellie Shapiro 3 hours ago
It is OBAMA's fault!

Countless people called on President Obama to pursue policies that would rescue the innocent people of Syria. He steadfastly refused. The result was not only the murder of 500,000 Arab men, women, and children, but the displacement of millions of refugees, which is the crisis we now face.

There can be no question that America must take in immigrants. We are a nation of immigrants. But these people should have never been forced to flee their homes in the first instance. The West should have stopped Assad from butchering his people at the source. Obama should have led the charge.

Now we have this crisis, and America must accept the refugees it can while still vetting immigrants to make sure American citizens are safe. President Trump is having to address a vast humanitarian crisis created by Obama?s inaction.
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Alberto Alphonso 6 hours ago
The writer is correct that the temporary suspension is legally justifiable and prudent given that the U.S. has information that ISIS wants to use refugee programs to hide Islamic terrorists. However, liberals in the U.S. (especially influential college age ones) can only think with their hearts. Facts and common sense rarely enters into the equation.

The writer also has good facts and points about the persecution of Middle Eastern Christians that were completely ignored by the Obama administration. Then again, given the facts that the U.S. was founded on Christian principles, and hard core liberals hate the U.S. and want to blame it for all of the worlds evils, it is not surprising that some liberals could not care less about the death and torture of Christians.
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William Price3 hours ago
Alberto - I would not mind the Syrian Christian's coming into the United States after what they've endured with persecutions, but we know the liberals will never allow us to single out a specific group. Liberals do not care about Christians
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David Hartz29 minutes ago
"the Syrian Christian's" what? And which Syrian Christian?
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Ginny Gandolfo7 hours ago
Thank you, Sandy, for a cogent, fact-based letter that tells the complete story. We are exposed to so many partial truths and hyperbole by the main stream press that it takes informed readers such as you to set the record straight.

I can only imagine how the left will spin your letter with the same tired tag lines that all return to profiling President Trump as a madman, thief and morally corrupt person. It is as if the spin meisters' playbook is to take each deadly sin and tag each one to DJT with corresponding fake news.

Truly contemptible.
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Bob Willison6 hours ago
Any man who believes it is ok to grab a woman's vigina is morally corrupt.
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William Price7 hours ago
And there is video

http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr...hback-senator-chuck-schumer-in-2015-15518379/
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Ginny Gandolfo7 hours ago
Thank you for sharing. The hypocrisy is stunning. There is a place in hell for the proliferating fabricators who lack integrity, ethics and an antagonism towards our country.
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Bob Willison6 hours ago
Why would there be a place in Hell for people who lack an antagonism toward our country? Don't you mean the reverse? You should check your writing skills.
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Cee Elle6 hours ago
"Proliferating fabricator" and everything else you described fits Sean Hannity to a tee.
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JoAnn Alexa1 hour ago
The only solution to the refugee problem is for the free world to unite in establishing safe zones in the war torn countries. Just like us, these people need their normal lifestyles, habits, customs. Americans will always be leery of burkas, prayer rugs, foreign languages-all 9/11 flashbacks. A few may enjoy American government "perks", but most would rather live their normal lives at "home". Safe zones require a lot of planning, money and effort, but a united free world should be strong enough to provide it.
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William Price30 minutes ago
Might I add, arm any able man and woman to fight ISIS.
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David Schwartz2 hours ago
Trump unlike some of his predecessors assumed office during a period of relative calm in the country. The stock market had hit an all time high. The recession is gradually receding. There are no U.S. large scale military units deployed or engaged in military action. Mr. Trump should have had an easy time launching his presidency. Trump with an all time low popularity rating of 37% for an incoming president, started his first term like a bull in a china shop. Trump hired a right wing ideologue as his chief advisor. He hires his son in law as an aide despite a rule about nepotism in the White House. He winks at the blind trust idea how president's for forty years have handled their finances. Now he possibly has thumbed his nose at the Constitution by using religion as a ban on immigration. Trump has a small base only about 35-40% of the population. All those blue collar democrats who voted for Trump did so on the jobs he promised. They did not buy into this ideological nonsense. Trump and his authoritarian behavior may have opened some eyes that heretofore were closed.
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David Hartz28 minutes ago
35-40% is a very generous estimate.
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Cato3 hours ago
Trump says we're going to halt importing refugees from seven countries for 90-120 days.

It's ok to take issue with that, I have a lot of mixed feelings, myself.

But the temper tantrums... oh my goodness. Hey, didn't Obama end the "Wet foot, dry foot" policy with Cuba in his last week in office? Weren't Cubans seeking political asylum stuck in limbo and threatened with deportation back to Cuba?

Where was the pot clanging, wailing, and gnashing of teeth there?

Let's at least try to be consistent with our outrage...
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Joseph Lucas4 hours ago
What part of cannot be banned by country of origin or religion is so hard to understand here?
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Mike Cornell3 hours ago
Title 8 Section 1182 (10) (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

That's the law.
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William Price33 minutes ago
Mike - Stop. You're making too much sense complete with facts. Stop.
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