654,000 Dead

[Eddie Haskell]

Johns Hopkins researchers have estimated that 654,000 have been killed in Iraq by the president you re-elected in in 2004 in the last 3 1/2 years. Of course, we can't get a more accurate count because this most disgusting piece of garbage and his administration is keeping a tight lid on the numbers, won't let the "liberal" media show body bags being unloaded off planes on the evening news and other manipulations to keep the public sanitized.

Remember how this pig got on television and said either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. Now I feel if you have one of those "W 04" bumper stickers on your car you are just as responsible and with "him" for the murders of these people as that scum.

Remember we invaded that country. No weapons of mass destruction. Iraq posed no threat to us. The reasons for the unwarrented invasion of another sovereignty have changed with the wind. And....

1) OSAMA IS STILL ON THE LOOSE.
2) BUSH HAS CREATED MORE TERRORISTS.
3) THIS COUNTRY IS IN MORE DANGER NOW AND SUBJECT TO ATTACK NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.

All because of some moron, stupid gunslinging, cowboy from Texas who doesn't have a brain to outhink the terrorists but decided to try to blow them off the map.

Well as the Russian second in command said to the sub commander who fired the torpedo (with the safeties off) at the Red October in the movie, "...you've killed us all."

654,000 killed. For what? Really corporate America, for what? Is the new market that important.

Eddie

 

[Axle]

654,000....:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

 

[Dead Money]

Welcome to a forced Democracy....

Welcome to a forced Democracy....

Reminds me of an opposing parties election rant......" Ask yourself, are you better off than you were 4 years ago??"

Looks like 600,000 + dead would probably say
NO.....


Vote Libertarian, these inbred political parties have no answers, only throw money at the problems and control media...


GLTA

 

[Jabberwocky]

no way that figure is correct.

George Bush just said so.

 

[Dead Money]

And you believe that articulate thespian ???

And you believe that articulate thespian ???

no way that figure is correct.

George Bush just said so.

It will be interesting in future years how his reign as prez is rated.....there is great hope for Jimmy Carter to be upstaged by someone even more inept as a leader....times 2....:mj07: :142smilie :mj07: :142smilie

 

[gjn23]

who headed up that research at johns hopkins.....michael moore or howard dean?

iran is the worlds biggest potential problem (has been for a while) and getting into iraq gets us closer to iran.....then again it's all about haliburton, oil, the rich, etc.etc.etc.....next thing you know, we are going to be told the iraq war disenfranchised blacks or was homophobic to gays

 

[kosar]

iran is the worlds biggest potential problem (has been for a while) and getting into iraq gets us closer to iran.....

Yeah, Iran seems real concerned about us being 'closer' to them.

Quite the deterrent.

 

[danmurphy jr]

He will be rated right along side the premium killer, Honest Abe. 2 of the most unqualified people ever to hold any office. Two distinctive generations where stupid was cool. They'll probably have an adjoining monument with the two holding hands.

 

[smurphy]

Is Dan bashing Lincoln? That's a new one.

I could use a dose of Charles Manson and his 400,000 mass graves right about now.

 

[kosar]

I could use a dose of Charles Manson and his 400,000 mass graves right about now.

I'd like to see manson and sponge go at it. That would be fun.

 

[smurphy]

We can dream, Kosar. We can dream.

 

[Chadman]

Be careful what you wish for, fellas...:SIB

Hmm, maybe a new slam has been borne today.

"It was Lincoln's Fault."

Coolness.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Have only found one news source that had nads to put these #'s up and that was Reuters and they since have pulled their story this morning and replaced it.

This is what report was based on-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061011/ts_nm/iraq_deaths_dc

"The findings were based on a survey by researchers from Johns Hopkins and Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad between May and June of 1,849 households, including 12,801 household members, in 47 randomly selected sites across Iraq."

This is what Iraq said said of survey--

"Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters, "The report is unbelievable. These numbers are exaggerated and not precise." Iraqi government officials put the total Iraqi death toll since the war started at 40,000."

Hmm a little disparity I'd say.

Heres the quote from at conclusion I'd like to highlight before they pull it.

While the study was published weeks before U.S. congressional elections, Burnham said it was not politically motivated.

a little enlightenment on this tomorrow.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Edward I over estimated you don't have lemmings--you are a lemming--appears they are using accounting methods similiar to your hours billed

 

[The Sponge]

well, that is a relief. Its only 40 thousand oh and another 100 today. Saw Trump last night and even he can see thru his huge tax breaks and say this administration is a complete failure which surrounds itself with incompetent people.

 

[Happy Hippo]

Although I think this number is quite inflated, the number of lives lost, now estimated to be nearly 50,000 is sickening enough, considering the justifications for this war.


And a few excerpts from the declassified NIE report, which clearly show how this conflict is breeding more terrorists:


"The Iraq conflict has become the 'cause celebre' for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement."

"Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1) Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the Iraq 'jihad;' (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US sentiment among most Muslims--all of which jihadists exploit."

"Al-Qa'ida, now merged with Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi's netword, is exploiting the situation in Iraq to attract new recruits and donors to maintain its leadership role."

"The increased role of Iraqis in managing the operations of al-Qa'ida in Iraq might lead veteran foreign jihadists to focus their efforts on external operations."

 

[gardenweasel]

Have only found one news source that had nads to put these #'s up and that was Reuters and they since have pulled their story this morning and replaced it.

This is what report was based on-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061011/ts_nm/iraq_deaths_dc

"The findings were based on a survey by researchers from Johns Hopkins and Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad between May and June of 1,849 households, including 12,801 household members, in 47 randomly selected sites across Iraq."

This is what Iraq said said of survey--

"Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters, "The report is unbelievable. These numbers are exaggerated and not precise." Iraqi government officials put the total Iraqi death toll since the war started at 40,000."

Hmm a little disparity I'd say.

Heres the quote from at conclusion I'd like to highlight before they pull it.

While the study was published weeks before U.S. congressional elections, Burnham said it was not politically motivated.

a little enlightenment on this tomorrow.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Edward I over estimated you don't have lemmings--you are a lemming--appears they are using accounting methods similiar to your hours billed

you beat me to it,dtb...........edward believed that figure?...no way........lol

i didn`t realize ole` slip and fall was so gullible....

hmmmm?......:mj03:


hey edward....did you see "dancing with the stars" tonight?......

no?........

well, madeline albright and kim jung il made a guest appearance....."maddy" bench pressed "pompadour boy" as the final (illegal) move of their "paso doble" number.....

and even though len goodman only gave them a "6", the world was saved.........

i swear..:yup ........( )

 

[DBLMUTZ]

Things thats for should start looking up......I love this paragraph...."It's just that I have to have enough ammo in the magazine that I can continue to shoot as long as they want us to shoot."...(Our children are the ammo)


Army: Troops to Stay in Iraq Until 2010
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
Wed Oct 11, 8:05 PM

WASHINGTON - For planning purposes, the Army is gearing up to keep current troop levels in Iraq for another four years, a new indication that conditions there are too unstable to foresee an end to the war.

Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, cautioned against reading too much into the planning, which is done far in advance to prepare the right mix of combat units for expected deployments. He noted that it is easier to scale back later if conditions allow, than to ramp up if they don't.

"This is not a prediction that things are going poorly or better," Schoomaker told reporters. "It's just that I have to have enough ammo in the magazine that I can continue to shoot as long as they want us to shoot."

Even so, his comments were the latest acknowledgment by Pentagon officials that a significant withdrawal of troops from Iraq is not likely in the immediate future. There are now 141,000 U.S. troops there.

At a Pentagon news conference, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey, said that as recently as July he had expected to be able to recommend a substantial reduction in U.S. forces by now. But that plan was dropped as sectarian violence in Baghdad escalated.

While arguing that progress is still being made toward unifying Iraq's fractured political rivalries and stabilizing the country, Casey also said the violence amounts to "a difficult situation that's likely to remain that way for some time."

He made no predictions of future U.S. troop reductions.

Appearing with Casey, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he and other senior Pentagon officials are still studying how the military might keep up the current pace of Iraq deployments without overtaxing the Army and Marine Corps, which have borne the brunt of the conflict. Rumsfeld said one option is to make more use of the Air Force and Navy for work that normally is done by soldiers and Marines.

Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Wednesday that the advance planning Schoomaker described was an appropriate cautionary approach. However, he added, the Pentagon should increase the overall size of the military to reduce stress on troops repeatedly sent into combat.

"I applaud the new realism but I think they also have to recognize that this (war) is going to put a huge stress on our forces," said Reed, a former Army Ranger. Reed and other Democrats have called on President Bush to start bringing home troops within a year to force the Iraqi government to take more responsibility for security.

At his news conference, Rumsfeld was asked whether he bears responsibility for what has gone wrong in Iraq or if the military commanders there are to blame.

"Of course I bear responsibility," he replied in apparent exasperation. "My Lord, I'm secretary of defense. Write it down."

In recent months the Army has shown signs of strain, as Pentagon officials have had to extend the Iraq deployments of two brigades to bolster security in Baghdad and allow units heading into the country to have at least one year at home before redeploying.

The Army is finding that the amount of time soldiers enjoy between Iraq tours has been shrinking this year. In the case of a brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division, its deployment to Iraq was delayed by about six weeks because it otherwise would have had only 11 months to prepare instead of the minimum 12 months. As a result, the unit it was going to replace has been forced to stay beyond its normal 12-month deployment.

In separate remarks to reporters, Gen. Richard Cody, the Army vice chief of staff, said soldiers need more than 12 months between deployments to Iraq so they can do a full range of combat training and complete the kinds of educational programs that enable the Army to grow a fully mature officer corps.

That kind of noncombat experience is necessary "so that we don't erode and become an Army that only can fight a counterinsurgency," Cody said. He added that North Korea's announced nuclear test "reminds us all that we may not just be in a counterinsurgency fight and we have to have full-spectrum capability."

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Thanks Wayne and Weaz:

You guys know I always need to be corrected. I did cite to a Johns Hopkins research study that showed over 654,000 Iraqi's dead and I was corrected by my two favorite neocons.

Thank you gentlemen. So, according to you gentlemen, the Iraqi death toll (alos known as Bush's murder toll) is around 40,000. Boy that must make the Iraqi's happy!!!!

Only 40,000 dead in 3 1/2 years so that they can enjoy the wonderful shangrala that exists in Bagdhad today. Yep. How lucky are they that we came along.

More on this today, Wayne? I can hardly wait.

Eddie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

You might add Iraq'i estimate of 50,000 Edward.
Lets see we have 40,000-50,000 and 650,000

My more news pertains to Reuters--

"While the study was published weeks before U.S. congressional elections, Burnham said it was not politically motivated."

appears he has since acknowedged that #'s were a little rushed because he was in hurry to get report out "before" elections??

waiting for it to come to print--to cut and paste

 

[gardenweasel]

kim jung il on eddie haskell:.."he so ronery".....