A Post for all the Pathetic and Degenerate Crappers

Hack

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Looks to me as if I will be at the top of that list.

Already down 5.3 units this bowl season.
Now you say thats not much.
POPPYCOCK!
I am not one of these clowns that throw out these 10 unit plays like condoms from a callgirl.
The majority of posters here at MJ`s are absolutely clueless.
Hate to give the downtrodden a lecture as it is the last thing you`se probably need.
But people get with the program.
My using one and two unit variances is as low and high as you`ll ever need to wager.
Period.
A well respected capper from these parts(volfan)posts his pick with a 3x behind 90% of his picks.
Now people,this is a one unit pick for him.
Think about it.
Seen many a poster list all their games as either 7 unit pick or 10 unit pick.This equates to 1 unit and 1.3333333333333 unit games.
Catch my drift(probably not)
This irresponsible posting has got to stop.

No game of the year here.
Just what I believe to be a good solid winner.
Some might say a bailout play(whatever)

If I have not lost all credibility by now,I will after after I post my game.

Actually not one game but a teaser.
Miami Canes-4
Pitt Steel -.5

And not for 10 units but for 2 units.
Does not sound like much but is a double your normal wager not considered a large play.

Remember its a new year.
Wager responsibly
Also,POST RESPONSIBLY

Good luck folks
 

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Usually people who can't win stoop to the typical bashing comments.
 

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I'm confused(i guess because I'm stupid) but here goes...

(you wrote)Already down 5.3 units this bowl season.
Now you say thats not much.
POPPYCOCK!

(I'm writing)It totally depends on how much money each unit you play is. If your bankroll is 1000 dollars and a one unit play is equal to 1% of your bankroll THEN LOSING YOUR LITTLE 5.3 UNITS ISN'T VERY MUCH AT ALL!!!! If a unit is equal to 10% of your entire bankroll than,,,

A. Your a total moron
B. it IS alot of money and POPPYCOCK is a good response.

(you wrote)I am not one of these clowns that throw out these 10 unit plays like condoms from a callgirl.
The majority of posters here at MJ`s are absolutely clueless.

(I'm writing) Bro, if you realize that only "clowns" post 10 unit plays all the time, and you seeming understand that most of the posters here are clueless, why not be smart enough to realize that you should only follow the GOOD cappers here(plus do your own homework) and don't even LOOK at the posters who are always posting 10 unit plays??? It's really not that hard to figure out.

(you wrote) Seen many a poster list all their games as either 7 unit pick or 10 unit pick.This equates to 1 unit and 1.3333333333333 unit games.
Catch my drift(probably not)
This irresponsible posting has got to stop.

(I'm writing) Your wrong Bro, and if you learn the in's and out's of good money management you will com to realize that your logic is convoluded. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you have to understand that units are percentages, and everyone's are different. It's not irresponsible posting, you're just not seeing it correctly.
 

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But Fred.
Trust me I see it clear as day.
Any gaming session should be pursued with 40 units of which to wager.
this gives a bettor the neccesary units to ride out the bad flucuations(spelling?).
The same is true in capping.
40 units to start out a season in any givin sport.
Now this is not my formula.
It is a man by the name of Stanford Wong,a noted mathematician and gaming expert.

Lets say I start out with 4000 dollars.
Equals 100$ per unit.
Now lets say I turn my 40 units into 50 units
Now the unit value becomes 125$
Lets say my 40 units turn into 30 units
Now the unit value becomes 75$

So with this method you are using % to dictate your unit value.

Bottom line:Sick of people throwng around units as if they were used snot rags.
Lurkers who follow these people WILL BE BURIED.

Nice reply Fred.
Good luck mate.
 

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Any lurker or regular who blindly follows someone just because they play a game for ten units deserves to be parted from his money. No sensible player would do that and I have to think that the vast majority of MJ clients are fully aware of that.
 

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Hack

You don't make alot of sense to me. Could I interest you in my TITFD principle ? I wouldn't charge you anything to start out.


Scott King of Dogs
 

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read to much of late but have to say it. number one it sounds like you are a book handicapper which is fine but it can only carry you so far. 2 300,000 to me might be 3 million to you or vice versa and wong who is a math wiz and above avg card player is a system player and contest player,if you are a true handicapper which you seem to have a nice grasp harsh but least understand the concept is not a elite handicapper . contest players are a total different game then real world handicapping. the stragey is totallly 2 different approaches. but wong is not a top of the line sports for a living handicapper cards yes book writting yes math yes contest yes but on its own in the real game no.

teasers in pro ok at the end. college point sperad are won or lost almost 70% of the time with out spread being a factor. nfl runs close to 60 just pick the winner the points make little difference at that %. not a bash but a syatem player is geared up for contest which nothing wrong some nice money in them but its differnt mind set then straight up handicapping for a living.

like i said not a bash but wong is far from a great handicapper good system person and writes enough about it,but **** it's not rocket science thats the big mistake trying to use math pc programs if you don't know the game and where to find the edge like line play on both sides of the ball is where you should start in fb if a team is above avg on both sides they will be a good team. handicapping is like being an advance pro or college scout look for the weekness and why a team should win, not math and graphs and programs why a team will lose but only between 5-10 trust me a coach and scout looks at what it takes to win and a handicapper should also. if you start looking for the winner and find it and know why then you have your number then look at whats posted if it matches yours or lower go fav if it is off by 7 go dog.

its all where the persons comfort zone is i can go all year in baseball and this year i played alot of dogs not because of the line i don't give a **** about a line i care who should when and why **** this well at-220 a team should win 3 of 4 bull shit each game is new from the start and it goes pitching and deff then hitting. with out the first 2 you canhit 340 as a team score 7 runs a game 4 by hr and still get drilled 2 out of 3 games ask the rangers the last 3-4 years and i am quite sure i know pro and college baseball very well.

bottom line you have to know the sports not a book.

good luck and don't look at this as a bash far from it. but you are a little to harsh and brag to much for my taste but that my problem not yours.
 

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The majority of posters here at MJ`s are absolutely clueless.

welcome to madjacks.. you sound like a real a$$hole:shrug:



Seen many a poster list all their games as either 7 unit pick or 10 unit pick.This equates to 1 unit and


i post my plays from 1-10 units..

the majority of my plays are from 4 to 8 units..

i reserve the lower unit plays for the sucker bets
my 1 to 5unit plays are usually teasers, parlays, prop bets, and the ocasional halftime bet..

4-8 units are plays i feel strong about..

9 and 10 units are plays i feel i cant miss..

a couple of weeks ago i went 3- 3, but because i hit a couple of 6units plays and lost 3 and 4unit plays i still made money..

"am not one of these clowns that throw out these 10 unit plays like condoms from a callgirl. "

i have only made 8 10unit wagers the entire NFL season..




your posts seems to suggest there is the same or almost the same amount of value for each game.. i dont agree why not rate how strongly you feel about plays.. so if you find a game you love, you feel it cant miss... you only put two units on it.. ? that just not the way i play.. 1unit for me is a small wager.. like i said i save the small plays for the low % bets..but when i love a game i throw 10units down to make some real money..

this system has worked well for me over the years and ive made good $$$$$$$

what the hell is wrong w/ this system?

before you answer im 8-0 on 10 unit plays.. so its not like i just throw chit out there for the hell of it

GL
 
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Mr. Fletcher.
A "book capper",or a "systems capper"
Never.
I like to take the value when it presents itself.
Case in point,last night.
Memphis opened at -2 ended up getting them at +2.5.
Now tonight theres no real value on the surface as I will not lay 11 points(OSU has not givin up more than 20 to anyone this year)
But the #`s do support a Steeler straight up win and Canes to cover 4.
I do realize a tease is a tough way to go but played opportunistically there is much value.
Respect your opinion.
Good luck mate.

Mr.Gibber good luck to you.
But any serious capper would NEVER NEVER NEVER 10 times their minimum bet.
Its just not justifyable to think that the line is that far off.
Now if your a recreational bettor thats fine,then bombs away.
Good luck mate
 

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Hack,

You are assuming that a guy with a 1-10 spread has his average play at 1, and moves up to 10 as his best.

What about the guy who has 5 units as his average, and goes up or down units as he sees the game as better or worse?

You go from 1-2, meaning you double your play if you really like a game. A guy who starts at 5 and goes to 10, has done the exact same thing, but also has room to wiggle with 6,7,8, and 9 units.

Thus, your 1-2 would be more irresponsible than someone elses 1-10.
 

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trust me i play my fair share of teaser the biggest mistake i see is people saying its a no win well its been very good to me over the year nfl more toward middle to end and i love steelers;)

good luck good imput thread for the most part everything can have some learnig to it, if your not learning you need to get out of the game i try to learn from lost games when i can sometimes its out of your hands but more then not i over looked something or did not give credit to a team that should of had more.

good luck i have 3 teasers and a few straight going this week. they key is pick your spot and find a key team and run it with 3-4 in a 2 teamerthatsmy limit 2 teams and hope the key wins do or die almost been burt very little this way by my key team but have been bit a couple time,thats when it sucks but if its a solid foundation you have to have the sack and take the shot just stay with in your bank roll,%. its not the games that beat people its the lack of manageing the bankroll. that was my tuffeset lesson to learn and i still stray on a game or 2 at times like my total tonight but it still won't make or break my week or month.. hey if it goes down nothing i can do to change it and if it wins i am back at 0-0 the next day.
 

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You can leave me out of your bullchit...
My plays are all rated 2 or 3x...
Very few are any different, just when I fade assholes like you...
I do ok (and not for just a day or a season)so don't need a lecture from a one hit wonder.
 

Hack

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Mr volfan.
I was using you as an example as to how betting strategies should be used.
Good luck mate.
 

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You are assuming that a guy with a 1-10 spread has his average play at 1, and moves up to 10 as his best.

What about the guy who has 5 units as his average, and goes up or down units as he sees the game as better or worse?

well said yyz, this is the point i was trying to make..



But any serious capper would NEVER NEVER NEVER 10 times their minimum bet.

i hardly ever bet my minimum amount.. only on parlays and such..
as i said 1 unit is not alot for me..

its not like i play all 1 unit then bet 10times that or 95% of my bankroll......

any serious capper???

this offends me.. i am a serious capper.. i spend the better part of my week capping games.. i work VERY HARD.. you dont know what the hell your talking about.. ive picked winning seasons here for three years running..

there are many ways to skin a cat.. im not sure why you feel you have to insult half the fourm just b/c they use different methods than yourself


Now if your a recreational bettor thats fine,then bombs away.

93-52-4 ytd
:shrug:
bombs away

GL :)
 
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