America Has Gone Away

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America Has Gone Away

Paul Craig Roberts
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December 30, 2010

Anyone who doesn?t believe that the US is an incipient fascist state needs only to consult the latest assault on civil liberty by Fox News. Instead of informing citizens, Fox News informs on citizens. Jason Ditz reports (antiwar.com Dec. 28) that Fox News ?no longer content to simply shill for a growing police state,? turned in a grandmother to the Department of Homeland Security for making ?anti-American comments.?

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The media have segued into the police attitude, which regards insistence on civil liberties and references to the Constitution as signs of extremism, especially when the Constitution is invoked in defense of dissent or privacy or placarded on a bumper sticker. President George W. Bush set the scene when he declared: ?you are with us or against us.?
Bush?s words demonstrate a frightening decline in our government?s respect for dissent since the presidency of John F. Kennedy. In a speech to the Newspaper Publishers Association in 1961, President Kennedy said:

?No president should fear public scrutiny of his program, for from that scrutiny comes understanding, and from that understanding comes support or opposition; and both are necessary. . . . Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed, and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian law makers once decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment.?



The press is not protected, Kennedy told the newspaper publishers, in order that it can amuse and entertain, emphasize the trivial, or simply tell the public what it wants to hear. The press is protected so that it can find and report facts and, thus, inform, arouse ?and sometimes even anger public opinion.?

In a statement unlikely to be repeated by an American president, Kennedy told the newspaper publishers:

?I?m not asking your newspapers to support an administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people, for I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.?

The America of Kennedy?s day and the America of today are two different worlds. In America today the media are expected to lie for the government in order to prevent the people from finding out what the government is up to. If polls can be believed, Americans brainwashed and programmed by O?Reilly, Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh want Bradley Manning and Julian Assange torn limb from limb for informing Americans of the criminal acts of their government. Politicians and journalists are screeching for their execution.

President Kennedy told the Newspaper Publishers Association that ?it is to the printing press, the recorder of man?s deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news, that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: Free and Independent.? Who can imagine a Bill Clinton, a George W. Bush, or a Barack Obama saying such a thing today?
Today the press is a propaganda ministry for the government. Any member who departs from his duty to lie and spin the news is expelled from the fraternity. A public increasingly unemployed, broke and homeless is told that they have vast enemies plotting to destroy them in the absence of annual trillion dollar expenditures for the military/security complex, wars lasting decades, no-fly lists, unlimited spying and collecting of dossiers on citizens supplemented by neighbors reporting on neighbors, full body scanners at airports, shopping centers, metro and train stations, traffic checks, and the equivalence of treason with the uttering of a truth.

Two years ago when he came into office President Obama admitted that no one knew what the military mission was in Afghanistan, including the president himself, but that he would find a mission and define it. On his recent trip to Afghanistan, Obama came up with the mission: to make the families of the troops safe in America, his version of Bush?s ?we have to kill them over there before they kill us over here.?

No one snorted with derision or even mildly giggled. Neither the New York Times nor Fox News dared to wonder if perhaps, maybe, murdering and displacing large numbers of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen and US support for Israel?s similar treatment of Lebanese and Palestinians might be creating a hostile environment that could breed terrorists. If there still is such a thing as the Newspaper Publishers Association, its members are incapable of such an unpatriotic thought.

Today no one believes that our country?s success depends on an informed public and a free press. America?s success depends on its financial and military hegemony over the world. Any information inconsistent with the indispensable people?s god-given right to dominate the world must be suppressed and the messenger discredited and destroyed.

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Now that the press has voluntarily shed its First Amendment rights, the government is working to redefine free speech as a privilege limited to the media, not a right of citizens. Thus, the insistence that WikiLeaks is not a media organization and Fox News turning in a citizen for exercising free speech. Washington?s assault on Assange and WikiLeaks is an assault on what remains of the US Constitution. When we cheer for WikiLeaks? demise, we are cheering for our own.
 

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Rusty ?
 

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Just a bunch of brain dead long hairs, huh?

Just a bunch of brain dead long hairs, huh?

Don't sing it ! Bring it !



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Lyrics:

Attention! Attention!
All citizens are ordered to report to their District detention centers!
Do not return to your homes;
Do not contact anyone!
Do not use any cellular or GPS devices!
Surrender all weapons at once!
Attention! This way to the camps!

I woke up in a black FEMA box
Darkness was all around me, in my coffin
My dreams are all nightmares anymore
And this is what I dream every night

The Leader of the New World Order, the President of the United States
Has declared anyone now residing inside the US of A
Without the RFID chip, you're just an illegal alien
An enemy combatant of America, welcome to the New World Order

This is the end of the road; this is the end of the line
This is the end of your life; this is the...

A society in a society, inside the fence life as you know it stops
They got their rules of conduct and we got ours
Be quick or be dead, you crumble up and die, the clock is
Ticking so slowly and so much can happen in an hour

I learned my lessons the hard way, every scar I earned
I had to bleed, inside the day yard
A system of controlled movement, like a giant ant farm
Any time is long time, now you're not in charge of your time anymore

The Ex-President signed a secret bill that can
Land a legal US Citizen in jail and the
Patriot act stripped away our constitutional rights
They say a Concentration camp just popped up, yeah, right!

Refuse the chip? Ha! Get persecute and beat by the
Tyranny of Mind control, for the mark of the beast
All rights removed, you're punished, captured, and enslaved
Believe me when I say, this is the endgame!
 

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SICK ! GUITAR SOLOS !

SICK ! GUITAR SOLOS !

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Kennedy? Huh? Wasn't he one of those commie-pinko, liberal, anti-American, pussified bed-wetters?

I'll bet his Daddy got him a deferment, or some kind of stateside desk job.

We need REAL men as leaders. Men with cajones. Men like Newt, Dumbyah, and Glenn Beck.
 

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Lumi, just letting you know, I've set up my wireless network in-house, and I'm hacking into your system via my "MadJack's" back door access key code. Jack said I could, he was getting concerned due to some of your anti-government propaganda.

Resistance is futile. Happy New Year. :SIB
 

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Kennedy? Huh? Wasn't he one of those commie-pinko, liberal, anti-American, pussified bed-wetters?

I'll bet his Daddy got him a deferment, or some kind of stateside desk job.

We need REAL men as leaders. Men with cajones. Men like Newt, Dumbyah, and Glenn Beck.

Your message, your constant drum beat on this becomes watered down more and more every time you you post it Fluff. Everyone is aware oF Gee Wizzes Notional Guard time, thanks to Dan Rather's expose' :facepalm:

Kennedy was a great man, his murder marked the beginning of the end.

We can go back and forth on who served and who didn't, what would that accomplish?

For you, you would always do a tight circle back to what a small handful of smarmy Repugnicans did. Kind of like the Special Forces OPS that were tasked to protect ALGORE in Nam while he took pictures?
 

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Lumi, just letting you know, I've set up my wireless network in-house, and I'm hacking into your system via my "MadJack's" back door access key code. Jack said I could, he was getting concerned due to some of your anti-government propaganda.

Resistance is futile. Happy New Year. :SIB

Impossible

you should be bouncing around off several servers,

Good Luck :toast:

Like Jack is concerned about anyone and the 1st A ?

I know some in here would like to have the Constitution RESTRICTED ! :facepalm:
 

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At least Bush served his country on paper compared to that punk Dickless Cheney who was too busy racking up Driving Under the Influence charges.

Even George's tap dance thru the Alabama Notional Guard is emabarassing.

I know Pilots who resigned their commission when they reached the rank of LTC/05 and went to the Warrant Officers Academy so they can stay in a bird instead of driving a desk.
 

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Like Jack is concerned about anyone and the 1st A ?

You must be one of those self-taught Constitutional "experts".

Here, lesson 1 -

The first amendment limits the power of the government.

Jack can control speech on his forum anyway he likes.

And doggie can forbid darkies from entering his house too, just as I forbid peckerwoods.
 
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You must be one of those self-taught Constitutional "experts".

Here, lesson 1 -

The first amendment limits the power of the government.

Jack can control speech on his forum anyway he likes.

And doggie can forbid darkies from entering his house too, just as I forbid peckerwoods.

I doubt you forbid any type of pecker, wood, rubber, flesh :shrug:

What sort of Constitutional "expert" ? do you proclaim to be ?

No you are speaking for Jack ?

Just admit it Fluff, you like George Bush and Barry Soetoro wish to completely destroy the Constitution. You don't like it, you fear it. You want to reshape it in the form of Alinksy's rules.

Alinsky provides a collection of rules to guide the process. But he emphasizes these rules must be translated into real-life tactics that are fluid and responsive to the situation at hand.

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. ?You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.?

Rule 5: Ridicule is man?s most potent weapon. It?s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. ?If your people aren?t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.?

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. ?The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.?

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O?Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city?s reputation.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, ?Okay, what would you do??

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don?t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. ?The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.?


You fluffy are definately a student of Alinsky
 

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America Has Gone Away

Paul Craig Roberts
Infowars.com
December 30, 2010

A public increasingly unemployed, broke and homeless is told that they have vast enemies plotting to destroy them in the absence of annual trillion dollar expenditures for the military/security complex...

Two years ago when he came into office President Obama admitted that no one knew what the military mission was in Afghanistan, including the president himself, but that he would find a mission and define it.

No one... dared to wonder if perhaps, maybe, murdering and displacing large numbers of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen and US support for Israel?s similar treatment of Lebanese and Palestinians might be creating a hostile environment that could breed terrorists
.
I couldn't have said it better.

Oh wait... I've been saying these same things for years.
 

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I couldn't have said it better.

Oh wait... I've been saying these same things for years.

It wasn't written on a chalkboard by a Bi-Polar Twit (Many More Adjectives could have been added, but why, they have all been said before)

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