America, some heavy stuff.....

Dead Money

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Very thought provoking article that affects all Americans.


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Today?s America* has nothing in common with the nostalgic images and grand successes of the nation as it were in her glory days. In fact, I would argue not only does America* lack any authentic representation of times past but is the antithesis of America.
We have come full circle, back to the very thing our ancestors fought, died and ultimately persevered to escape
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We have become a nation of political thieves and liars, and second class citizens whose majority will has no bearing on how their taxes will be spent or to which wars their children will be sent to die in.
And please let me halt your disgust right there, this is not conjecture but hardened fact, so allow me to explain before lazily calling me a traitor or an assh*le.

Tell me which war of the new millennium do you defend?
Can you even name the nations to which we have sent our sons and daughters to fight and die since 9/11?
Explain to me now in which countries Shiite?s are our friends and in which they are our foes.
I?m certain those who have sent their sons and daughters to fight can do so. But can you?
And then explain to me how, while only 13% of Americans support military action in Ukraine (take your pick of polls), your constitutionally mandated government of representatives, in direct conflict with their sworn duty to represent the will of the majority, have already sent military personnel, weapons and billions of war dollars to Ukraine in an attempt to provoke a war with Russia?
Can you explain how that happens in America; land of the free, governed by and for the will of the people? It doesn?t, but it does in America*. And isn?t this just the point?
 

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Very thought provoking article that affects all Americans.


Rest of article here....
http://www.firstrebuttal.com/category/now-thats-heavy-stuff/

Today?s America* has nothing in common with the nostalgic images and grand successes of the nation as it were in her glory days. In fact, I would argue not only does America* lack any authentic representation of times past but is the antithesis of America.
We have come full circle, back to the very thing our ancestors fought, died and ultimately persevered to escape
.
We have become a nation of political thieves and liars, and second class citizens whose majority will has no bearing on how their taxes will be spent or to which wars their children will be sent to die in.
And please let me halt your disgust right there, this is not conjecture but hardened fact, so allow me to explain before lazily calling me a traitor or an assh*le.

Tell me which war of the new millennium do you defend?
Can you even name the nations to which we have sent our sons and daughters to fight and die since 9/11?
Explain to me now in which countries Shiite?s are our friends and in which they are our foes.
I?m certain those who have sent their sons and daughters to fight can do so. But can you?
And then explain to me how, while only 13% of Americans support military action in Ukraine (take your pick of polls), your constitutionally mandated government of representatives, in direct conflict with their sworn duty to represent the will of the majority, have already sent military personnel, weapons and billions of war dollars to Ukraine in an attempt to provoke a war with Russia?
Can you explain how that happens in America; land of the free, governed by and for the will of the people? It doesn?t, but it does in America*. And isn?t this just the point?


PRETTY MUCH SPOT ON MONEY.....By the way did any one happen to see Charlie Rose's inteview of Vladmir Putin... he has some points........
 

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Totally agree with you Dead. Here is an article Nolan wrote.

The Best Way to Honor Our War Dead on Memorial Day



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This Memorial Day, the best way to honor our war dead is doing whatever it takes to prevent more deaths in the future.

So, go ahead and salute the flag, attend the parade marching down Main Street, and proudly sing the National Anthem. Just be aware that none of these overt displays of cushy patriotism will matter much beyond making us all feel a little more fuzzy about ourselves without the fortitude of pledging to save our sons and daughters from hiking off into the next pointless war risking dismemberment, and even death.

Want to be brave? Do something different this year. First off, starting asking tough questions.

Whatever it takes, whatever needs to be done, and by any means necessary ? all Americans who profess to care so deeply for the courageous men and women serving this nation must assure those in uniform that they won?t be used as sacrificial pawns on a twisted checkerboard of global power politics. That?s precisely what they have been, and indeed what all modern wars have been ? muscle-flexing acts of mass insanity led by chicken hawks who have never personally felt the sting of combat, yet who have no moral compunction whatsoever against giving orders for others to die. From the debacle of Vietnam some 50 years ago, to Afghanistan and Iraq more recently ? three infuriatingly futile wars each lasting more than a decade, more than three times as long as America?s involvement in World War II ? we?ve been continuously misled, lied to, and ultimately victimized by politicians, a lazy and complicit media, and nefarious corporations which conspire to fan the flames of regional and global conflict because it?s good for business.
 
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