America won't represent America's Pastime in Olympics

bjfinste

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Unreal. I really don't have much national pride any more, particularly after witnessing the actions of the current presidential administration, but this is insane.

PANAMA CITY, Panama -- Now here's a stunner: The defending champion U.S. baseball team will be at home next summer while countries like the Netherlands and Italy compete for an Olympic medal in Athens.

Manager Frank Robinson and his team of mostly minor leaguers were beaten at their own game, falling to Mexico 2-1 Friday -- a loss that eliminated them from a qualifying tournament with no second chances.

The Americans were among the favorites to win in Greece. There was even a chance future Hall of Famer Roger Clemens would have pitched for them.

Not to be.

"I can't believe it!" said Tom Lasorda, who managed the 2000 U.S. team to the gold in Sydney. "It's a shock and a disgrace that the Americans won't be represented in the Olympics."

"Baseball is America's game," he said. "It doesn't belong to the Japanese or the Cubans or the Koreans or the Italians. This is sad, very sad."

Lasorda's team had Ben Sheets, Roy Oswalt and Doug Mientkiewicz in the first Olympic tournament that included professionals.

"I know Roger Clemens wanted to play. That would've been a big draw for them. That's a shame, because they've got some good players on that team," Mientkiewicz said.

"It would've been nice to go out there and defend it, but now they're not going to get that chance," the Minnesota first baseman said. "I feel for all those guys. It's going to be hard to watch the Olympics now, that's for sure."

The Mexican team was a heavy underdog in this quarterfinal game, but got a tiebreaking home run in the ninth inning from Luis A. Garcia off Brian Bruney.

Bruney had 26 saves in the Arizona Diamondbacks' minor league system this season.

The United States threatened in the bottom of the ninth when Grady Sizemore and former major leaguer Ernie Young led off with singles.

With runners on second and third with one out, reliever Isidro Marquez got Justin Leone to ground back to the mound and retired Gerald Laird on a popup to end it.

Former New York Mets pitcher Rigo Beltran held the Americans to three hits in seven innings. Leone, of the Seattle system, homered in the fourth for the U.S. run.

"It was a well-pitched game by their pitchers," said Robinson, the Montreal Expos' manager and a Hall of Famer himself. "We were not able to do much until the ninth inning and it was not enough."

Ray Martinez tied it in the fifth with a homer off Cleveland Indians prospect Jason Stanford. The Americans had outscored their opponents 21-0.

The U.S. roster also included Atlanta Braves rookie pitcher Horacio Ramirez and former big leaguers Mike Lamb and Todd Williams.

"We lost a game. I don't think it's a setback for U.S. baseball," said Sandy Alderson, an executive vice president in the commissioner's office and the top American official with the team.

"I think it's a validation of the internationalization of the game. As we know, anything can happen in a game or a short series of games," he said.

Unlike basketball, the biggest stars in the United States do not play Olympic baseball, jeopardizing the sport's future in the games.

Even so, Alderson does not expect top major leaguers to participate four years from now when qualifying begins for the Beijing Summer Games.

"This is not about an eligibility issue. This is about a game played well by Mexico and unfortunately lost by the United States. Again, that's the nature of the game. Things happen," he said.

The U.S. team went 3-0 in pool play while Mexico lost all three games. But Mexico advanced when the Bahamas forfeited by failing to show up.

The Bahamas' action prompted Milwaukee Brewers general manager Doug Melvin to say: "It makes you wonder if baseball is an Olympic sport."

The two finalists in this tournament will reach the Olympics. Canada and Colombia will meet Saturday for the right to play Mexico on Sunday to determine one of the spots.

Cuba is the favorite for the other spot.

Baseball was a demonstration in the Olympics in 1984 and became a medal sport in 1996, when Cuba won the gold medal in Atlanta.

Sheets beat Cuba 4-0 to win the 2000 gold in Australia. Roy Oswalt, Sean Burroughs, Brad Wilkerson and Ryan Franklin also were on that American team.

As Mientkiewicz spoke on his cell phone after Friday's loss, he got a call from Mike Neill, who homered in the 2000 gold medal game.

"A lot of us used that as kind of a leaping board. It kind of put us on the map, so to speak for baseball," Mientkiewicz said. "That kind of shows how special our team was."
 

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This brings up an interesting point. I know that we could have fielded a team of all-stars like they do in basketball and hockey that would beat anyone on the planet. But do you think we should leave the olympics to the so called amateurs and take our lumps in the games. I know how most countries field what are professional teams by our standards. But when I think it is a shame that we will no longer have another game like when the them amateur US Hockey team beat the Russians on the way to their gold medal. We still get chills thinking about that great victory. If the hockey team we put out there now wins it just isn't the same. Basketball has become a real joke. We don't thrill in their victories. I would argue that since the first dream team there isn't even any intrest in it anymore. I favor a team of amateurs and having the possibility of fielding a team that might give us a game we will remember forever rather than a bunch of millionaires who would be expected to kick A$$ and anything less than a gold medal would be a dissapointment.
 

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ummmm Stevie.......hockey.......ya did have a team of all-stars at the Olympics..........and ummm we beat ya......on your turf...in the men and the women :D


sorry had to say it :)
 

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I think what Stevie's trying to say is that even if we had beaten the superior, gold-medal winning Canadians, it still wouldn't have come close to feeling the same as the Miracle on Ice because when it comes down to it, those guys are all still pros in the NHL.

However, even if they had all been amatuers, I'm not sure it would've had the same feeling anyway. Granted, I had just turned two when that happened, but with the Cold War and the fact that at the time there weren't a ton of Soviets in the NHL, it had a much different feel to it than if a bunch of no-name Americans had beaten a bunch of no-name Russians or no-name Canadians would.

From what I've heard, Canada beating us was a really big deal up there. Some of our Canadian friends in here can let us know if that's true or not. But for me, when I heard the final score (I was driving and just getting updates on the radio), I was like, "Damn, too bad." And that was it. I mean, all of these guys were going to be playing on national TV with their pro teams in a week again anyway.
 
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