AMERICAN ARE LEAVING

[RAYMOND]

Dear Sovereign Investor,

I?ve never seen anything like this?

Families are packing their bags and leaving America at the rate of 742-per hour!

In fact, it?s estimated that over 6.5 million Americans are leaving (or plan to leave) the country each year? in search of opportunities that no longer exist here in America.

Where exactly are these people going? why are they getting richer and living happier lives than ever before? and how can you join them without breaking the bank?

Click here for full details.

In Wealth & Prosperity,


CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN:sadwave:

 

[RAYMOND]

http://www.sovereignsociety.com/pages/bof/Millionaires_25.php?pub=Mill_Monthly&code=EBOFN205

 

[RAYMOND]

WE GET A BROTHER IN OFFICE AND THE COUNTRY LEAVE TOWN LOL SAD BUT TRUE THE COUNTRY IS DONE LIKE IT OR NOT , ITS OVER FOOLS

 

[Cie]

Bigger idiot than hedgehog.

 

[Duff Miver]

WE GET A BROTHER IN OFFICE AND THE COUNTRY LEAVE TOWN LOL SAD BUT TRUE THE COUNTRY IS DONE LIKE IT OR NOT , ITS OVER FOOLS

You should definitely pack your bags and head for a country where you will be a welcome immigrant.

Canada and Australia and Western Europe will not accept you; maybe some shithole in Africa will, but you'll have to learn to speak Urdu.

You can squat in the dirt, eat cockroaches and dirt, and die because there are no doctors or antibiotics, but at least you won't have to live in a country where a black man is President.

Well.., actually, it'll probably;y be a country where a much darker black man is President, and a Muslim to boot.

Get out, Raymond, get out, run like Hell while you have the chance.

Go, Raymond, go :142smilie

 

[hedgehog]

Obama got em on the run:lol:

 

[RAYMOND]

Bigger idiot than hedgehog.

its a fact like or not

 

[RAYMOND]

You should definitely pack your bags and head for a country where you will be a welcome immigrant.

Canada and Australia and Western Europe will not accept you; maybe some shithole in Africa will, but you'll have to learn to speak Urdu.

You can squat in the dirt, eat cockroaches and dirt, and die because there are no doctors or antibiotics, but at least you won't have to live in a country where a black man is President.

Well.., actually, it'll probably;y be a country where a much darker black man is President, and a Muslim to boot.

Get out, Raymond, get out, run like Hell while you have the chance.

Go, Raymond, go :142smilie

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY ASSHOLE ITS CALL CAPITALISM:0074



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

 

[RAYMOND]

WE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KICK THIS SO CALL LEADER OUT OF OFFICE BYE BYE BARRY:00hour

 

[THE KOD]

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY ASSHOLE ITS CALL CAPITALISM:0074



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

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whats seriously funny to me is when all the neo cons here were falling all over themselves when the Repub took the House

Oh we will change chit now.

Now the liberals are going to eat cake.


not a fawking thing can be noted that has changed since the Repub took over .:142smilie


not one fawking thing.

how pathetic is that

 

[Duff Miver]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cie Grant:
Bigger idiot than hedgehog.

Raymond replies: its a fact like or not

That's got to be the funniest and most revealing post ever.:00hour

 

[Duff Miver]

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY ASSHOLE ITS CALL CAPITALISM:0074



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

Aren't these YOUR words, Raymond?

HE COUNTRY IS DONE LIKE IT OR NOT , ITS OVER FOOLS

so, if it's done, over, then why aren't you hauling ass to Uganda?

 

[Trench]

Aren't these YOUR words, Raymond?

HE COUNTRY IS DONE LIKE IT OR NOT , ITS OVER FOOLS

so, if it's done, over, then why aren't you hauling ass to Uganda?

Don't confuse Raymond with his own words, Duff.

 

[THE KOD]

A bipartisan group of congressional negotiators signed off on an agreement Thursday to extend the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits while avoiding a fee cut for Medicare doctors for the rest of the year.

The measure, a top priority of President Barack Obama, now goes to the House and Senate for final votes that could come as soon as Friday. Obama has said he will sign it if it reaches his desk.

However, none of the three Republican senators on the 20-member House-Senate conference committee that negotiated the compromise signed it, signaling possible GOP resistance when the measure comes up in the Senate.

Other panel members including Senate Democrats and member of both parties in the House signed the deal to provide the needed majority for approval.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, earlier called the deal "a fair agreement and one that I support," while House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said: "I don't see a scenario where our members will vote against it."

Senate Democratic leaders also expressed support for the deal and noted the apparent split over it between Republicans in the Senate and House.

"I don't get how not one Senate Republican conferee would sign a deal negotiated by their own party and endorsed by Speaker Boehner," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, told reporters.
:142smilie
Each party's top member on the conference committee also endorsed the plan, with Democratic Sen. Max Baucus of Montana calling it "very good for the country" while GOP Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan said he was "confident this can be concluded ... and we're moving forward."

The roughly $100 billion payroll tax cut, a key part of Obama's economic recovery plan, has reduced how much 160 million American workers pay into Social Security on their first $110,100 in wages. Instead of paying in 6.2%, they've been paying 4.2% for the past year and two months -- a break worth about $83 a month for someone making $50,000.

The agreement came together this week after House Republicans dropped a key demand Monday, saying they would accept the extended payroll tax cut without including spending cuts elsewhere to pay the $100 billion cost.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the agreement would increase the federal deficit by $89 billion over 10 years, mostly through decreased tax revenue.

Boehner defended the decision to move forward with an unpaid payroll tax cut extension, a move previously opposed by Republicans, by arguing it was the only way to prevent a tax hike demanded by Democrats to help pay the cost.

"We were not going to allow Democrats to continue to play games and cause a tax increase for hardworking Americans," Boehner told reporters on Wednesday. "We made a decision to bring them to the table so that the games would stop and we would get this worked out."

While a number of conservatives are upset that the deal will add to the deficit, some GOP House members have nevertheless said they expect the package to ultimately pass with support from a majority of Republicans as well as Democrats.

"It's the art of a deal. I mean, it's a compromise," said Rep. Steve Latourette, R-Ohio. "You have people that didn't get ... 100% of what they wanted."

The agreement covers all three measures -- the payroll tax cut, the unemployment benefits extension, and the so-called "doc fix" -- for the rest of 2012. The latter two measures -- costing a combined $50 billion -- will be paid for.

Funding sources to pay for the benefit extension and the doc fix include savings from broadband spectrum sales, increased pension contributions by new federal employees, and cuts to Medicare hospital and specialist fees that would not affect patients, according to the House Ways and Means Committee.

One top House Democrat -- Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer -- said he would vote against the package because, in his opinion, it treats federal employees unfairly by requiring new hires to pay a larger percentage of their salary for their pension.

Under the terms of the deal, in states with unemployment rates higher than the national average of 8.3%, the maximum time an unemployed person can receive benefits will drop from 99 to 73 weeks. The maximum length of benefits for people in states with an average unemployment rate or lower will drop to 63 weeks or as far down as 40 weeks.

The jobless have been able to collect up to 99 weeks of benefits since November 2009 as part of the nation's unprecedented response to the recession.

In addition, states will be allowed to perform drug tests on individuals applying for unemployment benefits if those people lost their previous job because they either failed or refused an employer's drug test. Individuals receiving unemployment assistance could also be tested if they are seeking a job that generally requires a drug test.

Also, welfare beneficiaries will be banned from accessing public assistance funds at ATMs in strip clubs, liquor stores, and casinos.

The payroll tax cut, unemployment benefits and enhanced doc fix payments are currently set to expire at the end of February -- a timeline put in place through a short-term agreement reached by Congress in December. That agreement also set up the conference committee that resumed negotiations last month on a longer-term deal.

Monday's decision by House GOP leaders to drop their insistence that the tax cut extension be paid for by offsetting spending cuts was a sharp turnaround for House Republicans. Top party members previously insisted that a failure to fully pay for the tax break would be financially reckless.

But the debate over whether and how to extend the tax cut has been a political loser so far for the Republicans. Democrats have gleefully highlighted the GOP's reluctance to hold down the payroll tax rate, using the issue to portray Republicans as defenders of the rich who are indifferent to the plight of the middle class.

Political analysts believe the showdown over the payroll holiday has eroded GOP strength on the party's core issue of lower taxes. Fearing negative repercussions, Republican leaders have now backtracked on the issue twice: dropping their opposition to the two-month extension last December and dropping their insistence on paying for a longer extension on Monday.

"December was a debacle," Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said Wednesday. "We don't want to repeat that."

"I think the GOP has read the writing on the wall when it comes to the payroll tax cut," said Brown University political scientist Wendy Schiller. "Americans are benefiting from it, and to take it away at this juncture leaves them open to charges of raising taxes. ... It would severely hamper the GOP presidential nominee's effort to defeat Obama."

Boehner and other top House GOP leaders tried Monday to separate the payroll tax extension from provisions dealing with unemployment benefits and the doc fix, but quickly backed away from the proposal. Democrats objected loudly to the idea
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its sad but the only reason this shit is getting passed is they are scheduled to go on vacation for 10 days starting this Friday.

Shit only gets done when it interferes with their vacation time. :facepalm:

and not long ago the neo cons said they would never pass this unless it was fully paid for.

how easily things change

American politics.

fawk me its hard to believe

 

[Skulnik]

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whats seriously funny to me is when all the neo cons here were falling all over themselves when the Repub took the House

Oh we will change chit now.

Now the liberals are going to eat cake.


not a fawking thing can be noted that has changed since the Repub took over .:142smilie


not one fawking thing.

how pathetic is that

You are correct, our Liberal News Media, wouldn't TOLERATE a U S Senate, that hadn't passed a Federal Budget in over 1000 days, if it were controlled by the Republicans.


:0074

 

[THE KOD]

Iran poses a laundry list of threats to U.S. national security, according to top officials in the intelligence community.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that Iran poses a threat on a number of fronts, including its ability to develop a nuclear weapon, and the fact that any nuclear attack would likely be delivered by a ballistic missile.

"Iran already has the largest inventory of ballistic missiles in the Middle East, and it is expanding the scale, reach, and sophistication of its ballistic missile force, many of which are inherently capable of carrying a nuclear payload," Clapper said during his opening remarks to the committee.

The question for the intelligence community remains whether Iran, in particular Supreme Leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei, either already has decided or will decide to pull the trigger when it comes to taking the country's nuclear knowledge and applying it to the actual development of a nuclear weapon.

"Iran's technical advancement, particularly in uranium enrichment, strengthens our assessment that Iran has the scientific, technical, and industrial capacity to eventually produce nuclear weapons, making the central issue its political will to do so," Clapper said.

There are a number of indicators that the intelligence community is looking for that Clapper refused to detail during the public hearing that would indicate that the decision has already been made, and Clapper added that there is no indication yet that the decision has been made.

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Iran may do it

they may decide to go down that nuke road

the mullah may just do it.


HOW FAWKING STUPID ARE THESE MEDIA DUMBSHITS

THEY ARE MAKING A FAWKING NUKE YOU DUMB ASSES

AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN

 

[shawn555]

its a fact like or not

:142smilie

 

[Cie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cie Grant:
Bigger idiot than hedgehog.

Raymond replies: its a fact like or not

That's got to be the funniest and most revealing post ever.:00hour

I applaud ray's honesty and self awareness

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Bigger idiot than hedgehog.

its a fact like or not

:facepalm: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[THE KOD]

Thinking about moving to New Zealand?

Me and my fiance thinking about saving up and in a few years moving to a different country, we now live in America and are thinking of going to New Zealand (We aren't sure which region yet, we haven't researched very much into it yet) I have a few questions to ask to get a little bit more information about the place.

-How long is the average work week here? (the typical american work week is 40 hours a week, 5 days a week)
-How is the job outlook? Is the country is debt or poverty? (It is very hard to find a decent job in America, even with a degree, as we are in terrible debt)
-Can you choose your own occupation, religion, home, etc?
-Can anyone attend the colleges? Are they really expensive and do you have any help from the government with paying for it?
-How is the healthcare there? Is it free?
-Is it dangerous for Americans to live there? Do gangs target Americans?
-What is the average price for a decent one bedroom apartment or small house? (Decent as in not a trailer or in a bad area)
-What is the average price for a used or new car?
-Do you have subways or buses throughout the cities?
-What is the weather like there? Tempurature wise and are there a lot of storms or hurricanes?
-Can anyone visit the beach at anytime?
-Is there any international number to call for more information?
-How mnuch should we save up before moving?
-Would it be easy to get an occupation in photography or marine biology?
-Do degrees from America transfer to New Zealand?

If there is anything else, appropriate, that you would like to add, please do so. And please respond if you have lived or been there before. Thank you very much in advance!

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-How long is the average work week here? (the typical american work week is 40 hours a week, 5 days a week)

We work very long hours here. Average is 50 hours a week

-How is the job outlook? Is the country is debt or poverty? (It is very hard to find a decent job in America, even with a degree, as we are in terrible debt)

No, not in debt or poverty. Jobs will depend on your luck and skills, if you've got the qualification, how hard you look, if you're not fussy, if you're willing to take up any job and won't care so much about the salary

-Can you choose your own occupation, religion, home, etc?

Yes

-Can anyone attend the colleges? Are they really expensive and do you have any help from the government with paying for it?

We have tuitions and fees and yes they are mostly expensive, especially if you are an international student

-How is the healthcare there? Is it free?

Not always free. Depends on where you go and what for. Check out for more: http://www.emigratenz.org/healthcare-mig?

-Is it dangerous for Americans to live there? Do gangs target Americans?

Not dangerous but not 100% or even 90% safe, however it is safe enough. You'll meet different kinds of people who will love you and who won't

-What is the average price for a decent one bedroom apartment or small house? (Decent as in not a trailer or in a bad area)

Rent or buy? If you buy, it'll be much much more expensive. To rent will also depend what type of property(House, apartment, unit, studio etc), the location, how many bedrooms and bathrooms you want etc. You just have to look very carefully because some can be ridiculously expensive. But the average i would say is $280, but prices will range from $190 to $900

-What is the average price for a used or new car?

New cars are way too expensive and you'll need to put that aside for now unless you're rich. There are heaps of used cars within the $10000 price range.

-Do you have subways or buses throughout the cities?

Yes

-What is the weather like there? Tempurature wise and are there a lot of storms or hurricanes?

Not really storms or hurricanes. Lol. Cold/warm climate. South island is colder than the north. We have temparate/oceanic climate.

-Can anyone visit the beach at anytime?

Yes for most parts.

-Is there any international number to call for more information?

Info about? But i would think so

-How mnuch should we save up before moving?

Heaps heaps.

-Would it be easy to get an occupation in photography or marine biology?

Interesting. You would i guess, but wouldn't be so easy

-Do degrees from America transfer to New Zealand?

Not sure what kind of degrees you mean

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not happening, same as with your other questions. As an American you are very limited on the countries you can move to easily, you need a special skill that these countries don't have.

See my answer to your earlier question. Migration rules are essentially the same as Australia.
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Out of interest, why do you think you will be allowed to move to New Zealand? Do you think we are some sort of backward country who will let anyone in?
You might be surprised to find out that we do not drop our pants at any American who wants to come and live here. Shania Twain yes, you....

I live in Auckland, and have my whole life

The average work week is 40hours, 5 days a week (typically 9am-5pm)

The country isn't in debt, I don't believe it is hard to find a job but it can take 6 or so months to get into certain industries.

You can choose your own occupation (assuming you have a visa permit + there are jobs available at the time) and you can choose your own religion and home. NZ is very multicultural, there is literally every ethnicity and every religion here.

Anyone can attend colleges, but placing can be limited for certain studies + there are pre-requesites for entry. Citizens can get student loans that they pay back interest free - but as you wont be an NZ citizen I doubt this will apply to you - if you are granted citizenship though, then yes.

Healthcare is not expensive. You can buy health insurance. Basically if you go public, it is free (for surgeries etc, going public means you go on a waiting list and can be waiting quite a while) You pay more to go private - and that way you can receive treatment immediately. (For example I had a lump I needed an ultrasound on, I could have waited 2 months to get a free ultrasound - but I chose to go private and pay $380 and I had it done 1 day after seeing my GP) GP visits (for general check ups etc) are $20-$60 and going to hospital is free (for citizens) if you dont have citizenship, you will have to pay.

Gangs dont target anyone in particular. NZ is not unsafe. I have never had any issues with gangs. Usually you will only run into trouble if you have involved yourself with them, and not paid them what you owed (or tried to exit the gang without following the 'ritual')

In Auckland - prices are high. You are looking at $300,000+ to purchase a small home or apartment in a reasonable area. The best areas (such as Remuera) you will be looking at $500,000+. Auckland is very expensive. If you buy out of auckland, you can halve the prices.

For a car - Average used car (depending on age) $2000-10000. New car, $45000-$70000. Petrol is expensive right now though, Last time I checked it was $2.07 per litre.

Yes we have both trains and buses through the cities. Running very regular through Auckland and they are cheap.

Weather is good (again, I am referring to Auckland) It is winter right now and we hover around 7-10degrees (celcius) during the day. In summer, we only get around the late 20s. It does snow down south. We get the odd thunder or hail storm. Nothing too intense though.

Beaches are free for anyone anytime.

I would save up $20,000+ before moving. You cant predict how long you will need to set yourself up (getting a job etc) it may be best to apply for jobs before you move. Our top website for job searching in NZ is www.seek.co.nz

You can look up the university of auckland (or otago or something) to see how your degrees may match up to ours/how to transfer.
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Ray

what you think about New Zealand ?

it sounds nice.

I think you could sneak in maybe on a boat over the border . Pack a bunch of tamales and gallons of water.

I think you will be back in a hurry and love the next four years of Obama after a few months in New Zealand.