Annan criticizes U.S.

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In final speech, Annan criticizes U.S.
U.N. chief warns U.S. not to forget democratic ideals in war on terrorism
The Associated Press
Updated: 3:09 p.m. ET Dec 11, 2006
INDEPENDENCE, Mo. - U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, in his farewell address, urged the United States not to abandon its democratic ideals while waging war against terrorism.

In remarks Monday at the Truman Presidential Museum and Library, Annan also said the Security Council should be expanded.

"Human rights and the rule of law are vital to global security and prosperity," Annan told a packed crowd that included international media.

When the U.S. "appears to abandon its own ideals and objectives, its friends abroad are naturally troubled and confused," he said.

Annan, who leaves the United Nations on Dec. 31 after 10 years as secretary-general, has become an increasingly vocal critic of the war in Iraq.

But Annan disputed media reports, based on a released text of his remarks, that he was criticizing the United States, saying "nothing could be further from the truth."

?Our world is in a sorry state?
"What I am saying here is that when the U.S. works with other countries in a multilateral system we do extremely well," he said. "Our world is in a sorry state, we have lots of problems around the world, we require that natural leadership role that the U.S. has played in the past and can play today.

"To appeal for cooperation and leadership should never be seen as an attack."

In response to a question from U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Missouri, about the recently released Iraq Study Group report, Annan said the report was useful and clarified many issues. But he said the world first needs to find a way to get the Iraqis to reconcile with one another.

"We need to be as active on the political front as we are on the military front," he said. "We need to find a way to get the Iraqis to come together and settle their differences and renew their constitution."

Annan said it was also important to get nearby countries, including Iran and Syria, involved in finding a solution to regional problems.

He said that the U.S. has a special responsibility to the world because it continues to have extraordinary power.

Annan summed up five principles that he considers essential: collective responsibility, global solidarity, rule of law, mutual accountability and multilateralism.

Quoting Truman
He chose the Truman museum for his final major speech in part because it is dedicated to a president who was instrumental in the founding of the United Nations. The museum was under tight security, including sharpshooters on the roof and a strong police presence. Only a handful of protesters appeared outside the museum. His speech repeatedly praised the Truman administration but never mentioned Bush by name.

"As President Truman said, 'The responsibility of the great states is to serve and not dominate the peoples of the world,'" Annan said.

"He believed strongly that henceforth security must be collective and indivisible. That was why, for instance, that he insisted when faced with aggression by North Korea against the South in 1950, on bringing the issue to the United Nations," Annan said.

"Against such threats as these, no nation can make itself secure by seeking supremacy over all others."

Calls for revamped Security Council
Annan also called for a reform of the Security Council, saying its membership "still reflects the reality of 1945." He suggested adding new members to represent parts of the world with less of a voice.

He said the permanent members, the world powers, "must accept the special responsibility that comes with their privilege.'

"The Security Council is not just another stage on which to act out national interests," he said in another jab at Bush.


Strained relationship
Annan has had a strained relationship with the administration and with outgoing U.S. Ambassador John Bolton.

He was criticized by some in the administration and in Iraq after saying earlier this month that the level of violence in Iraq is much worse than that of Lebanon's civil war and that some Iraqis believe their lives were better under Saddam Hussein.

He also has urged the international community to help rebuild Iraq, saying he was not sure Iraq could accomplish it alone.

Bolton also is leaving this month. He resigned in the wake of the November elections, which gave Democrats control over the next Congress, making his Senate confirmation unlikely.

After a private dinner Tuesday night at the White House for Annan, Bolton joked that "nobody sang 'Kumbaya.'"

Told at the time of Bolton's comment, Annan laughed and asked: "But does he know how to sing it?"

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I thought this was a interesting read. As we all have known Anna has never been for or supported the actions that the U.S. has taken with Iraq.
Now the question is how will this effect the next
U.N. Secretary-General with the U.S. ????
 

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Annan summed up five principles that he considers essential: collective responsibility, global solidarity, rule of law, mutual accountability and multilateralism.

"As President Truman said, 'The responsibility of the great states is to serve and not dominate the peoples of the world,'" Annan said.

"Against such threats as these, no nation can make itself secure by seeking supremacy over all others."

He said the permanent members, the world powers, "must accept the special responsibility that comes with their privilege.'

"The Security Council is not just another stage on which to act out national interests," he said in another jab at Bush.


I know most people on this board dislike Annan, but I think he spoke words of wisdom. The U.S. has not been internationally friendly since Bush took office - we have ignored many of our allies and made many more enemies through our international actions. It is exactly the right place of Annan to stand up against what we have done, as the leader of the U.N. I am sad to see him go.

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I know most people on this board dislike Annan, but I think he spoke words of wisdom. The U.S. has not been internationally friendly since Bush took office - we have ignored many of our allies and made many more enemies through our international actions. It is exactly the right place of Annan to stand up against what we have done, as the leader of the U.N. I am sad to see him go.

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The people who don't like him are the ones who let the Fox news henchmen munipulate them into thinking this was a rotten man. I never heard another news outlet claim this so this would lead me to believe the guy isnt bad afterall. This Iraq debacle will never end with these clowns in office. These other countries are enjoying us suffering because this nitwit we have in office thumb his nose at everyone. Everyone was wrong and this collection of pigs thought they were right. To think after 9/11 we could have gone anywhere on the planet and greeted as friends, and now when we go to another country we are down right hated is incredible.
 

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nothing more pathetic than leftists in glee over a crook exerting his moral authority over our country

what patriotism:nono: :nono: :nono:
 

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you are 100% correct...him & his son are crooks that should be behind bars.

You want to talk about a couple of crooks who should be behind bars or maybe even hung? Their father was a former president. The one son ripped off every old lady with his savings and loan scam, The other son help fix an election. The other son was on the board of the security firm from the world trade center for some strange reason. Lets not forget the other son who lied us intio war with intelligence he knew was bullshit but his zest for war profiteering and oil led him into the war anyway no matter who's kids got killed. Lets throw them all in an not a select few but hey they served our country so lets tip our hat. Priceless
 

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nothing more pathetic than leftists in glee over a crook exerting his moral authority over our country

what patriotism:nono: :nono: :nono:

Freeze i think he knows nitwits like yourself voted for this asshole so he is trying to help you figure it out. By the way thanks for the laugh with your post three years ago. One thing i will always say about you and that is you are consistent. You are wrong everytime you open your mouth.
 

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nothing more pathetic than leftists in glee over a crook exerting his moral authority over our country

what patriotism:nono: :nono: :nono:

i agree it's amazing the respect that annan receives from some people....

just look what has happened under his watch....

theft
rape
genocide

unbelievable !!
 

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...all of which are pretty tough to prevent I would have thought? :shrug:

...given all 3 have been going on since the dawn of time under a thousand "influencial world leaders'" watch.

But yeah, crook, thief...let's be honest, the U.N. is right up there with the IOC. :nono:

(But be fair about it, you've gotta pay The Sponges next to last post! :SIB )
 
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Speaking about Fox Sponge--If you followed the oil for food scandal that your liberal outlets overlooked you see thinks in a clearer perspective.

Rampant corruption from Annan on down--no doubt his distain for Bolton who put his son in spotlight.

--another interesting thing in the oil for food--reason Saddam thumbed his nose at all the resolutions is he had assurance from France and Russia that vote to invade would never pass.

too many people making too much money on sanctions as we found out.

Saddam thought GW's final ultimadum was just more unenforcible hype he'd received from U.N. in past and before he figured out it wasn't- his son's were pushing daiseys and they were dragging him out of hole in ground.
Certainly made Lybia-Yemen and others rethink
issues;)
 

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The people who don't like him are the ones who let the Fox news henchmen munipulate them into thinking this was a rotten man. I never heard another news outlet claim this so this would lead me to believe the guy isnt bad afterall. This Iraq debacle will never end with these clowns in office. These other countries are enjoying us suffering because this nitwit we have in office thumb his nose at everyone. Everyone was wrong and this collection of pigs thought they were right. To think after 9/11 we could have gone anywhere on the planet and greeted as friends, and now when we go to another country we are down right hated is incredible.


you`re right about saddam and iraq,spongy...i've always liked the "saddam was in his box" theory. ...of course,"the box" was the size of a middle eastern nation.....and that's a mighty large box.....

i'm sure we were every bit as successful at sealing iraq's borders(oil for food?) before we took over as we have been since.....;)

coffee annus?...c`mon guys,have mercy on an old grifter....he done good for himself (and his kid)...

seriously,this guy has been secy. general for 10 years... under his watch we have the genocide in rwanda where the u.n. troops were compeltely toothless...

we have the genocide in the balkans which required the n.a.t.o. alliance to step in militarily...

we have failed u.n. programs and peacekeeping missions with troops that would rather rape young kids than enforce peace....

nothing accomplished between the palestinians and israel....

we have the oil for food scandal which showed the depths of internal corruption....

we have the continuing legitimization of despots and anarchistic regimes by the u.n......

we have darfur and the latest u.n.sponsored genocide of the decade...

to be fair,we should list his accomplishments.....i have the list:

........................................:yawn:



to his credit,he is finally moving out of his $5mill n.y.c. townhouse, with a new $200k kitchen (not a typo - $200,000)....sets a good example for the millions starving in sudan suffering under muslim rule.....

and what miserable shit-hole is he retiring to?...anyone want to start a betting pool as to where he will take residence...n.y.c.,sweden, or france?....hans and kofi could start an "oil for dead children" company.....just like the good old days on turtle bay......

i'd bet my next paycheck that he will retire to (drum roll please) n.y.c. or france...in a luxury apartment, stocked with expensive suits....you don't think for a minute that he's going back to africa(uggghh), do you? ....


anybody think he goes back to ghana to help his peeps?....lol...
 
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Speaking about Fox Sponge--If you followed the oil for food scandal that your liberal outlets overlooked you see thinks in a clearer perspective.

Rampant corruption from Annan on down--no doubt his distain for Bolton who put his son in spotlight.

--another interesting thing in the oil for food--reason Saddam thumbed his nose at all the resolutions is he had assurance from France and Russia that vote to invade would never pass.

too many people making too much money on sanctions as we found out.

Saddam thought GW's final ultimadum was just more unenforcible hype he'd received from U.N. in past and before he figured out it wasn't- his son's were pushing daiseys and they were dragging him out of hole in ground.
Certainly made Lybia-Yemen and others rethink
issues;)

What are your feelings of that Neocon hero of yours, Dick Cheney, doing business with Iraq by finding a loophole around the sanctions?

Oh yeah, like you are hearing it for the first time, here's your link http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2953.htm
 
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I do agree that Annan has not advanced many causes in his time as leader, and the scandals are reprehensible, although I confess I have not waded too far into those. For those things he should be held to account. But his comments are exactly on point, and are very thoughtful. HH mentioned that above, and I agree with her wholeheartedly. We have abandoned many of our pricipals and ideals under the leadership of this administration, and I sincerely feel that our country is far less admired worldwide because of it. I think it will be far more difficult the next time we ask for support from other countries for what may be very necessary and important scenarios.
 

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I do agree that Annan has not advanced many causes in his time as leader, and the scandals are reprehensible, although I confess I have not waded too far into those. For those things he should be held to account. But his comments are exactly on point, and are very thoughtful. HH mentioned that above, and I agree with her wholeheartedly. We have abandoned many of our pricipals and ideals under the leadership of this administration, and I sincerely feel that our country is far less admired worldwide because of it. I think it will be far more difficult the next time we ask for support from other countries for what may be very necessary and important scenarios.

chad...

i'm also down on this administration...but probably for different reasons than you or hh...

just out of curiosity....what beliefs & ideals have been abandoned..?
 

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Fair question, AR. May have been a little bit of grandstanding in that comment. More of a personal feeling than a national one, I suppose. I just feel that this administration has not fostered a spirit of cooperation with anyone, and with the with us or against us mantra has polarized many situations over the years. I feel that it has sought to become more powerful and more secretive than comfortable or acceptable to me, and I think has set a dangerous precedent. One could argue some of it has been necessary, that is a worthy side to take, I just don't agree with most of it. I think the torture scenarios that have played out have undermined the high ideals of democracy and admiration by free countries, as in some cases we have behaved like those we profess to be better than in our actions. I just don't think you can always have it both ways, and you have to accept the criticisms for the choices you make.

Not sure if that makes any sense or addresses your question. Just an attempt.
 

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I guess it's the "Dennis Rodman Syndrome" in full effect here....

If the asshole is on your team, he's ok. So attempt to bring up those character flaws in others which actually adds credence to what is being said about Annan in an amusing way.

I think the thread is about Annan. I'm well versed on this type thing. (off topic but in the same vein) Outside of Chicago, Jesse Jackson is thought of as some great civil rights leader. Here, esp in the business community, he's a well known extortionist and basically a camera whore. He's actually too big for Chicago now and there is a whole variety of dopes yelling off their soap boxes for some reason or another demanding attention.

Annan will have a comfortable retirement.
 

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I guess it's the "Dennis Rodman Syndrome" in full effect here....

If the asshole is on your team, he's ok. So attempt to bring up those character flaws in others which actually adds credence to what is being said about Annan in an amusing way.

I think the thread is about Annan. I'm well versed on this type thing. (off topic but in the same vein) Outside of Chicago, Jesse Jackson is thought of as some great civil rights leader. Here, esp in the business community, he's a well known
extortionist and basically a camera whore. He's actually too big for Chicago now and there is a whole variety of dopes yelling off their soap boxes for some reason or another demanding attention.

Annan will have a comfortable retirement.

io...

as far as jackson's extortionist ways is concerned...all people have to do is check the relationship between busch beer, nascar...& the "good" reverand.
 
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