any North Americans use some service called Legal Shield?

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Just sat through a presentation.
Left me with transcendent cynical skepticism.

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ex: lawsuits against Legal Shield

AI Overview



LegalShield faces recent class-action lawsuits, notably one from August 2024 alleging they illegally intercept and analyze customer calls and chats with third-party AI provider
Talkdesk, violating privacy expectations by failing to disclose this data collection, with claims that sensitive details shared during communications are being used without consent. Additionally, consumer complaints filed with the Better Business Bureau (BBB) highlight issues with denied coverage, uncommunicative law firms, and disputes over service provision, leading to significant customer dissatisfaction.
Key Lawsuits & Allegations:

• AI & Data Privacy Class Action (2024): Filed by Ronna Crowder, this lawsuit claims LegalShield shares confidential customer communications (phone calls, texts, chats) with Talkdesk, a software company using AI to intercept and analyze this data for training purposes, all without clear customer consent or disclosure in their privacy policy.
• Broader Privacy Concerns: Plaintiffs argue that LegalShield's users, expecting attorney-client privilege, share intimate details, but their data is accessed by third parties for undisclosed AI analysis, contradicting privacy policy implications.

Consumer Complaints (BBB):

• Coverage Denial: Users report LegalShield denying service for valid claims, misrepresenting policy exclusions, and unfairly denying coverage for employment-related matters.
• Poor Attorney Performance: Complaints detail unresponsive law firms, lack of progress on cases, and attorneys failing to implement requested changes, wasting customer time.
• Unauthorized Firm Engagement: Customers have complained about being entered into exclusive relationships with specific law firms without their consent or proper approval.

Historical Issues:

• Pre-Paid Legal (LegalShield's former name) faced scrutiny in 2001 from the Wyoming Attorney General for marketing violations and from the SEC for accounting practices, though these predate the recent AI lawsuit.

In essence, recent legal challenges focus on privacy breaches via AI data collection, while common consumer complaints center on service delivery, coverage fairness, and communication issues with affiliated lawyers.

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Might work for cheesy airheaded small businesses that are too incompetent to fill out forms. Maybe I'm reading its value to our society wrong. Still quite ignorant on the matter, hence the question.

 

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This seems like as good a place as any for more legal pipe dreams.

ex: canadian legal cases dismissed via Jordan


AI Overview



Since the 2016
R. v. Jordan Supreme Court decision, thousands of Canadian criminal cases have been stayed or withdrawn due to "unreasonable delay," with roughly 10,000 cases impacted annually as of 2023–24. The ruling sets presumptive ceilings of 18 months for provincial courts and 30 months for superior courts, resulting in the dismissal of serious charges including sexual assault, murder, and drug trafficking.
Key details regarding cases dismissed via Jordan include:

• Impacted Cases: Between 2016 and late 2025, over 268 sexual assault cases were stayed. In 2023–24 alone, 525 sexual assault cases were stayed or withdrawn, The Globe and Mail reports.
• Statistics: In 2023-24, approximately 9,560 cases overall exceeded Jordan deadlines, The Globe and Mail reports. Ontario alone saw 180 cases stayed and 286 dismissed between July 2016 and December 2018, according to Global News.
• Notable Examples: Luigi Corretti, accused of a multimillion-dollar fraud in Quebec, had charges stayed in 2016 after a 70-month delay, notes the Vancouver Sun.
• Legal Threshold: The Jordan framework requires that if a case takes longer than the set time, and the delay is not caused by the defense or exceptional circumstances, the charges are stayed (dismissed), YouTube explains.

These stays often occur due to systemic issues like lack of courtroom availability, this YouTube video notes. While intended to protect the constitutional right to a timely trial, the rule has faced criticism for allowing serious charges to be dropped, says CBC.

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Every other place that I try to copy-paste such googly-spew, it appears like jailhouse crap. Hence my continued abuse of the system. Maybe I should have been a lawyer.

 

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Don't mind me.
--me

Any philosophy worth taking seriously would have to be built upon a firm foundation of unyielding despair.
--Bertrand Russell


ex: in canada, how do applications for case dismissal via Jordan work?


AI Overview


Applications for case dismissal in Canada under
R. v. Jordan work by setting strict, presumptive time ceilings for criminal trials—18 months for provincial court or 30 months for superior court—starting from the charge date to the trial's end. If the net delay (total time minus defense-caused delays) exceeds these limits, it is presumed unreasonable, often leading to a stay of proceedings.
How the Jordan Application Process Works:

• The "Clock" Calculation: The time is calculated from the charges being laid until the actual or anticipated end of the trial.
• Net Delay Calculation: The total delay is calculated by subtracting any delay caused or requested by the defense.
• Presumptive Ceilings: If the net delay exceeds 18 months (provincial court) or 30 months (superior court), the delay is presumed to be unreasonable.
• Crown's Rebuttal: The Crown can attempt to defeat the application by proving "exceptional circumstances" (e.g., discrete, unforeseen events or complex case requirements).
• Remedy: If the court finds the delay is unreasonable and not justified by exceptional circumstances, a stay of proceedings is ordered, which typically results in the charges being dismissed.

Key Considerations:

• Defense Delays: Time taken for defense-requested adjournments or actions (e.g., changing counsel) does not count towards the 18/30-month limit.
• Application Scope: Jordan applies to criminal offences to protect the right to be tried within a reasonable time, as guaranteed under section 11(b) of the Charter.
• Impact: If a Jordan application is successful, the charges are dismissed, and the prosecution cannot be restarted.

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