Anybody watch Big 10 Champ last night?

[Mags]

Was curious if you did.... in the 3rd quarter (I think), Neb had a long play that went for a TD (and was called back). On this play the WR (#80) made an outstanding block on the WI DB (#10).

It was a violent block - he just blew him up like I never seen before. The DB was running full tilt, chasing the ball carrier and was getting close, but never saw the receiver hit him.

As the announcer said, the WR could not have hit the DB low, as that would be a penalty. This wasn't helmet to helmet either - it was shoulder pad from the WR into the sternum of the DB.

Like I said, he blew him up. And a flag came flying out once it was clear the DB was not getting up. Many flags (NFL too) seem to come not from the hit, but based on the reaction (or lack of it) of the guy that was hit. It is turning into a soccer game, with guys having the ability to influence a game by faking injury (although the Wis DB was clearly not faking).

Anyway, the penalty was for "hitting a defenseless player". And we keep seeing more and more of this.

Basically, it seems like anytime the player is not aware enough to see a hit coming, then they are "defenseless".

I just don't get the distinction. It seems that, if it is a big hit, it is a penalty, and they make up the reason.

Did anyone else see this play? Do you agree it was a clean block?

FYI - I am a WI fan, so this isn't sour grapes at all - just thought it was a great football play.

 

[Shleprock]

Was curious if you did.... in the 3rd quarter (I think), Neb had a long play that went for a TD (and was called back). On this play the WR (#80) made an outstanding block on the WI DB (#10).

It was a violent block - he just blew him up like I never seen before. The DB was running full tilt, chasing the ball carrier and was getting close, but never saw the receiver hit him.

As the announcer said, the WR could not have hit the DB low, as that would be a penalty. This wasn't helmet to helmet either - it was shoulder pad from the WR into the sternum of the DB.

Like I said, he blew him up. And a flag came flying out once it was clear the DB was not getting up. Many flags (NFL too) seem to come not from the hit, but based on the reaction (or lack of it) of the guy that was hit. It is turning into a soccer game, with guys having the ability to influence a game by faking injury (although the Wis DB was clearly not faking).

Anyway, the penalty was for "hitting a defenseless player". And we keep seeing more and more of this.

Basically, it seems like anytime the player is not aware enough to see a hit coming, then they are "defenseless".

I just don't get the distinction. It seems that, if it is a big hit, it is a penalty, and they make up the reason.

Did anyone else see this play? Do you agree it was a clean block?

FYI - I am a WI fan, so this isn't sour grapes at all - just thought it was a great football play.

I saw it you are right but it was a makeup call doesn't make it right but the play before was not called and was obvious so it had to be a makeup call

 

[DuckDogs]

I watched it. He did launch, but I still think it was a clean block...times are changing in football.

The dirty play was the wisconsin d lineman going low on the qb a few plays later. That guy should have his ass kicked for that.

 

[Mags]

I watched it. He did launch, but I still think it was a clean block...times are changing in football.

The dirty play was the wisconsin d lineman going low on the qb a few plays later. That guy should have his ass kicked for that.

Yea, the Wis boys had a couple of plays that I was disappointed with - the lineman going after Martinez's feet and Borland bodyslamming Martinez.... they both could have been called.

I think part of the frustration, from what I could see, is that once the Badgers were up big, the refs stopped calling obvious holding penalties on Neb. #11 was getting held, REALLY held, every play.. and nothing.

Refs shouldn't make it easier on a team because they are getting blown out - but that is kinda what it looked like.

 

[jawaiian playa]

soljah! totally agree! it was clean all da way!
I jus don't get it sometimes!
when these refs make certain calls
these players especially in da pro's
are going full speed and can't be thinkin how they are going to make da hit!
its all instinct!!
jack tatum,jack lambert and randy gradishar
woulda been fined every week!!
stupid rule! to me, just my opinion

glta!

 

[BUCKY1]

Thought it was a clean hard hit too. No excuses for what Hemer did goin to the legs of Martinez tho.

 

[Smitty]

that was a vicious, violent, and totally clean hit. they are trying to make football a game for pansies. you either leave the game alone or take off the pads and play two-hand touch.

i took a similar hit while covering a kickoff last game my senior year. completely cleaned my clock and i heard about it from my friends after the game. but never for a second did i think it was dirty.

 

[jawaiian playa]

that was a vicious, violent, and totally clean hit. they are trying to make football a game for pansies. you either leave the game alone or take off the pads and play two-hand touch.

i took a similar hit while covering a kickoff last game my senior year. completely cleaned my clock and i heard about it from my friends after the game. but never for a second did i think it was dirty.

soljah!! high respect towards ur bottom quote!!:toast:

glta!

 

[TLankford]

 

[TLankford]

funny they have been commemorating these hits in highschool football the whole time I grew up. Friday night football fever they would have "Ross Awards" for the best/hardest hits. Now they get penalized and even suspend guys for it.

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