Anyone think Colorado can win the NL...Tracy now like 73-40 since he took over

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No, just like previously, they don't have the starting pitching in a 7 game series, on top of the middle of their bullpen isn't nothing to write home about.

Sadly, the only way I see it is if they play the Dodgers in the NLCS...


:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

And everyone said they were done when they were 16.5 games out from 1st. Never say never... They may win the division.... Yes, unlikely, but taken 1 game at a time, we only need 3 wins. 1 AT A TIME.
 

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:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

And everyone said they were done when they were 16.5 games out from 1st. Never say never... They may win the division.... Yes, unlikely, but taken 1 game at a time, we only need 3 wins. 1 AT A TIME.


While winning the division would be nice it really does not matter they will face either St.Louis or Philly in the 1st round and I am not sure who they would want to face between those two clubs.

Which would you rather face????
 

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No, just like previously, they don't have the starting pitching in a 7 game series, on top of the middle of their bullpen isn't nothing to write home about.

Sadly, the only way I see it is if they play the Dodgers in the NLCS...

And the Rockies' best pitcher in 2007 was ... ??
 

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Jeff Francis, or Aaron Cook...but that's irrelevant.

Rockies don't have one starter better than Hamels, Lee, Wainright, or Carpenter, Happ...

The Rockies have a roster which is built for the durability and long haul. Not a playoff series.

IMO, Cardinals win the NL

Ubaldo Jimenez is better than Cole Hamels and J.A. Happ.

Your statement makes me wonder if you've seen him pitch.
 

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rockies rotation now is better than 2007 and they made it to world series, got screwed over by the 7-day layoff before playing boston.
 

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Rockies have no chance the Dodgers own them this season . Dodgers have won 12 out of 15 games vs the Rockies. Everytime the Rockies get within range the Dodgers BITCHSLAP them back in their place. GO BIG BLUE
 

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rockies rotation now is better than 2007 and they made it to world series, got screwed over by the 7-day layoff before playing boston.

Absolutely... Totally agree.... ONLY REASON. They were TOO GOOD that 1st rd, and that sitting will kill any team...

This team is CLICKING better than any other team right now in NL LEAGUE... LAD TOTALLY OFF KILT. St Louis is on again/off again. Right now, with COL's offense hitting again, no team will be able to produce the runs to keep up.

BUT BUT BUT, IF IF IF, LAD SOMEHOW SHUTS DOWN THE OFFENSE IN THIS SERIES and holds Col to 3 or less runs in each game, THAT MAY DESTROY COL's chances against ST LOU. St Louis has the ability to match 7+ runs a game, but I havent been seeing it lately. And Col, FEARS NOTHING... Including being down 3 runs with 2 outs and no one on, btm of the 9th or extras... They find a way. Again and again. This team is the LONGSHOT for the NL....


Another thing to remember is IF IF IF, LAD does win the NL in the post, BET ON ANY TEAM IN THE AL TO WIN WORLD SERIES... AUTOMATIC...

LAD IS WORST TEAM IN INTERLEAGUE PLAY SINCE THEY STARTED IT. It wont change just because its the W.S.

Go Rockies!!!
 

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Rockies have no chance the Dodgers own them this season . Dodgers have won 12 out of 15 games vs the Rockies. Everytime the Rockies get within range the Dodgers BITCHSLAP them back in their place. GO BIG BLUE

I agree. This is gonna be a HUGE HILL TO OVERCOME. 1 AT A TIME. Of course, HOW BAD HAS LAD been to put themselves to even have a chance at losing???? :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: Pretty bad.
 

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Ubaldo Jimenez is better than Cole Hamels and J.A. Happ.

Your statement makes me wonder if you've seen him pitch.


Your statement makes me wonder if you've actually seen Jimenez pitch against any team worth a pot to piss in.

Ok, so he's 14-12 with a 3.52 era...looks good...

Of those 14 wins, 6 are against +.500 win teams...you know how many are playoff teams? 1 win against a playoff team...11 losses against +.500 teams...pretty much, he makes off pitching against piss poor teams.

No denying he's a decent pitcher...but no way in hell he's better than Hamels...guess you forget about his playoffs last year. He's struggled some this year, but if it's a public pole that no phillies or rockies fan can vote...I wouldn't be shocked if Hamels gets 80% of the vote.

Happ is a rookie, and he's 12-4 with an era almost a whole 1 ER lower than Jimenez. Happ didn't start starting full time until 2 whole months into the season and he's only got 2 less wins...

Rockies have no chance the Dodgers own them this season . Dodgers have won 12 out of 15 games vs the Rockies. Everytime the Rockies get within range the Dodgers BITCHSLAP them back in their place. GO BIG BLUE
 

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Your statement makes me wonder if you've actually seen Jimenez pitch against any team worth a pot to piss in.

Ok, so he's 14-12 with a 3.52 era...looks good...

Of those 14 wins, 6 are against +.500 win teams...you know how many are playoff teams? 1 win against a playoff team...11 losses against +.500 teams...pretty much, he makes off pitching against piss poor teams.

No denying he's a decent pitcher...but no way in hell he's better than Hamels...guess you forget about his playoffs last year. He's struggled some this year, but if it's a public pole that no phillies or rockies fan can vote...I wouldn't be shocked if Hamels gets 80% of the vote.

Happ is a rookie, and he's 12-4 with an era almost a whole 1 ER lower than Jimenez. Happ didn't start starting full time until 2 whole months into the season and he's only got 2 less wins...

You're trying to debate pitching performance and skill by using win-loss record an ERA.

Let the record show that I refuse to discuss baseball like a 1990s caveman.

Let the record also show that any person who uses win-loss record as a means of evaluating and comparing pitchers has no business trying to come across as educated on the game of baseball.

In short, it's not a crime to know nothing about a subject. The problem is when you don't know what the hell you're talking about and you try to enter into a discussion.

Do yourself a favor and spend some time on Fangraphs.com or BP. Learn about how to properly analyze pitching. Figure out what the terms FIP, xFIP, DIPS ERA, Expected ERA, and tRA mean. Figure out what WAR is.

Come back and report on these things, then we'll have a discussion on pitching. I don't know a lot about a lot, but the basics of pitcher analysis are the single subject in this entire world I could be considered an "expert" at.

And once again, for your own good, please stop trying to use win-loss record to rate pitchers. It's like using batting average to decide who is the best offensive player.
 

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You're trying to debate pitching performance and skill by using win-loss record an ERA.

Let the record show that I refuse to discuss baseball like a 1990s caveman.

Let the record also show that any person who uses win-loss record as a means of evaluating and comparing pitchers has no business trying to come across as educated on the game of baseball.

In short, it's not a crime to know nothing about a subject. The problem is when you don't know what the hell you're talking about and you try to enter into a discussion.

Do yourself a favor and spend some time on Fangraphs.com or BP. Learn about how to properly analyze pitching. Figure out what the terms FIP, xFIP, DIPS ERA, Expected ERA, and tRA mean. Figure out what WAR is.

Come back and report on these things, then we'll have a discussion on pitching. I don't know a lot about a lot, but the basics of pitcher analysis are the single subject in this entire world I could be considered an "expert" at.

And once again, for your own good, please stop trying to use win-loss record to rate pitchers. It's like using batting average to decide who is the best offensive player.

I merely posted Jimenez stats vs good teams, and poor teams. However, you did do a nice job at detracting away from the fact. Good job, but I don't buy it. I know what stats are, and I know every term you brought up.

I could give a damn about those stats as well. Where do they help you????? This isn't a fantasy league or OOTP baseball league where those stats matter.

The bottom line is it's playoff time. Jimenez has 1 win against a playoff team.

You could be Roger Clemens in your prime, but if your playoff stats stink, your playoff ERA stink, and you can't win a game in the playoffs to save your life...what the fuck does WAR, DIPS, etc matter?

Let the record show that you're blind.

Let the record show that the Rockies have no chance at winning the world series.
 
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