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I'm zeroing in on a few races. I usually don't have my bets set in stone beforehand, just general ideas regarding what I think the odds should be. Then I want to see late scratches and how the horses look on the track.

AQU-I'm a bit hesitant since they've only had one day of racing in the past week due to the weather.

2nd-looks like 4 contenders: Gail's Drive coming off the huge figure and win. I think the bounce is overrated but when a horse improves way too much, they are susceptible and this horse looks like it. His last would win here but the bounce is the key. Mike's Thunder has a much steadier line but may be hurt by a lack of speed in the race. Same with Alter Ego, who's in decent form but may be compromised by the pace. Four Alert isn't in great form but does appear to be the controlling speed. I think the key with him has been his recent inability to handle slop or mud. Back on a fast track he could be tough.

4th-looks like a two horse race between Glory to be Winloc and Masterful Harry. Of the two, I like "Glory" better.

6th-5 horses have a shot in here. I'm downgrading The Macabbee since he was claimed away from Scott Lake so that gets me down to 4. As of right now, I like the 1,2, 5 and 6. The 1 horse is coming off a little layoff and his 2 biggest numbers were at 7f so I guess I'm down to the 2,5 and 6.

8th-If none of the 3 early speed horses scratch, I'll probably go with Fifth of Hennessey. I've been waiting for him to run back.

Gulfstream:
4th-trying to beat the 7-5 morning line favorite with Impressive Soldier. 4 horses have broken their mdn from his Jan 10 race and he showed nice improvement his last with the slight drop, and finished 3rd, 7 lengths in front of 4th.

7th-looks to be between the Shuman entry, both recent claims, Wicked Will and Fast Tracker. Everything Shuman sends out must be respected, and all claims seem to move up by 5 or more lengths from their previous barn. I like Fast Tracker better than Wicked Will, and I think the turnback from 1m 70y will suit Fast Tracker

8th-a wide open NW2X for 3 YO. I will try and look for a price here. Mr. Mississippi is 10-1 in the program and certainly is a contender. Collateral Damage faced better in Kentucky last fall but has the outside post. Irrawaddy is a European import with Graded Stakes experience. Strizzi and Unbridels King both could win but I wouldn't bet at under 7-2.
 

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OK, just saw the scratches. No turf at Gulfstream so disregard the comments on Race 8. I do think Collateral Damage is the horse to beat on the main track. In the 7th, Fast Tracker also scratched, who I had liked. At Aqueduct, one of the speed horses scratched out of the 6th, so Run Kush Run really only has to beat the Maryland shipper out of the gate, which I think he will. In the 8th, one of the early speeds did scratch, but I still like Price Hennessey.
 

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So far things have worked out fairly well. In the 2nd at Aqu, I thought the heavy favorite, Gail's Drive, was a great candidate to bounce off the lifetime top and hit the $60 exacta with Mike's Thunder and Four Alert. Glory to be Winloc ran a disappointing 3rd but Run Kush Run did get the win, albeit at a lower price than I hoped for. But I'm really surprised at the payoff on Prince of Hennessey. I saw the opening odds and he was 5-2 so I was quite pleased w/the $11 plus mutuel. At GP, Impressive Soldier ran 3rd in a very paceless race and Fast Tracker scratched in the 7th.
 

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A general rule is to take the win payoff times the place payoff of the 2nd horse. Of course they are separate pools but its a good general rule. Also this is after the race.

Before the race, its a little trickier. I go mostly by feel. I know if I hit an exacta with a 4-1 shot over a 20-1 shot, it should pay at least $125 (for $2). It could pay $100 and it could pay $180, but less than $125 I'm probably not getting what I should. Also the field size must be taken into consideration. In the Aqu example for today, two 5-1 shots ran 1-2. That may pay over $90 in a 12 horse field, but w/7 betting interests, it only paid $60. As for favorites, I think they are best used on top of horses who are 10-1 or better for the 2nd slot. Any exacta with an 8-5 over a 3-1 will be overbet. But an 8-5 over a 16-1 shot may be a decent payoff.
 

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Thanks, V.

I am starting to like the horses better than the sports...

Races are quicker(don't have to worry about fouling at the end of a game or a refs bad call)
Less = more....$2 bet can return $100+..where can you get that in sports other than a 10 team parlay...
More exciting to see your 10 to 1 come down the stretch than Duke blowing out ol' State to win even money.....
 

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good day v. wish there were more hours in the day to many tracks not enough time. pacerfan,any site such as racing channel.com will give you up to date odds and ex. payoffs for any track in country.
 
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