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might be a nice guy but he belongs to an ultra-conservative Jewish faith called Lubavitcher that believe that except for the these particular Jews, humanity is swine, Americans are worms, little more than dog feces and that God will visit his awesome wrath on those individuals very soon. In fact he won an award not too long ago for doing all he could to further the goals of these American-hating Jews. Enjoy.
 

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Tenzing said:
might be a nice guy but he belongs to an ultra-conservative Jewish faith called Lubavitcher that believe that except for the these particular Jews, humanity is swine, Americans are worms, little more than dog feces and that God will visit his awesome wrath on those individuals very soon. In fact he won an award not too long ago for doing all he could to further the goals of these American-hating Jews. Enjoy.


Sounds like s-it to me. Got proof?

This antisemitic rhetoric sounds Klan-like to me. Tenzing, please provide proof or at least documentation when you make such an extreme claim. :nono:
 

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you ****heads need to read more.

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

PHILADELPHIA -- What's a nice Jewish son of New York Democrats doing as the most visible spokesman of the Bush campaign?

"You can thank Jimmy Carter for making me leave the Democratic Party, and Ronald Reagan for making me a Republican," said Ari Fleischer, the 39-year-old senior communications adviser and spokesman for the George W. Bush campaign. http://www.jewishsf.com/bk001020/usbushspokesman.shtml

ARI FLEISCHER A LUBAVITCHER? WHILE THE SUBJECT OF BUSH AND
HIS BIBLE has become a leading topic of discussion these days,
including the cover story in this week's {Newsweek} magazine,
less has been said about Jewish "religiosity" in the Bush White House.

Two of Bush's key staffers, White House Press Spokesman
Ari Fleischer, and Deputy Chief of Staff Josh Bolten have been
leading figures in the reformed Chabad Lubavitcher movement.

Fleischer, when he worked on Capitol Hill for Sen. Pete
Domenici and Sen. Bill Archer had set up a Lubavitcher study group.

He was an early leader and co-president of that Chabad's
Capitol Jewish Forum, which brought together lawmakers and
congressional and administration staffers for "Jewish events studies."

Recently at the 100th anniversary of the birthday of
the Lubavitcher founder, Menachem Shneerson, in Washington, both
Fleischer and Bolten were guests as was Lubavitcher supporter, Sen. Joseph Lieberman.

Lieberman was the evening's main speaker
and Fleischer was there to receive an award from the American
Friends of Lubavitch for his services. http://michiganimc.org/newswire/display/1558/index.php

Ari Fleischer, the spokesman for President George W. Bush studies with Chabad, as does "Dr. Laura" Schlessinger, the famous talk-show moralist and ambassador for Orthodox Judaism. In 1995, due to Jewish lobbying efforts and stupifying public ignorance, deceased international Chabad leader Rabbi Menachem Schneerson was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the first religious person ever to receive this award.
http://jewishtribalreview.org/postville.htm

Hassidim--a continuation (and debasement!) of Jewish mysticism--is still a "living" movement, with hundreds of thousands of active adherents who are fanatically devoted to their `holy rabbis', some of whom have acquired a very considerable political influence in Israel, among the leaders of most parties and even more so in the higher echelons of the army.

What, then, are the views of this movement concerning
non-Jews? As an example, let us take the famous "Hatanya,"
fundamental book of the Habbad movement, one of the most
important branches of Hassidism. According to this book, all
non-Jews are totally satanic creatures `in whom there is
absolutely nothing good.' Even a non-Jewish embryo is
qualitatively different from a Jewish one. The very
existence of a non-Jew is `inessential', whereas all of
creation was created solely for the sake of the Jews.

This book is circulated in countless editions, and its ideas
are further propagated in the numerous `discourses' of the
present hereditary Fuehrer of Habbad, the so-called
Lubavitcher rabbi, M.M. Schneurssohn, who leads this
powerful world-wide organisation from his New York
headquarters. In Israel these ideas are widely disseminated
among the public at large, in the schools and in the army.
(According to the testimony of Shulamit Aloni, Member of the
Knesset, this Habbad propaganda was particularly stepped up
before Israel's invasion of Lebanon in March 1978, in order
to induce military doctors and nurses to withhold medical
help from `Gentile wounded'. This Nazi-like advice did not
refer specifically to Arabs or Palestinians, but simply to
Gentiles, "goyim.") A former Israeli President, Shazar,
was an ardent adherent of Habbad, and many top Israeli and
American politicians--headed by Prime Minister
Begin--publicly courted and supported it. This, in spite of
the considerable unpopularity of the Lubavitcher rabbi--in
Israel he is widely criticised because he refuses to come to
the Holy Land even for a visit and keeps himself in New York
for obscure messianic reasons, while in New York his
anti-Black attitude is notorious.

The fact that, despite these pragmatic difficulties,
Habbad can be publicly supported by so many top political
figures owes much to the thoroughly disingenuous and
misleading treatment by almost all scholars who have written
about the Hassidic movement and its Habbad branch. This
applies particularly to all who have written or are writing
about it in English. They suppress the glaring evidence of
the old Hasidic texts as well as the latter-day political
implications that follow from them, which stare in the face
of even a casual reader of the Israeli Hebrew press, in
whose pages the Lubavitcher rabbi and other Hassidic leaders
constantly publish the most rabid bloodthirsty statements
and exhortations against all Arabs.

A chief deceiver in this case, and a good example of the
power of the deception, was Martin Buber. His numerous works eulogising the whole Hassidic movement (including Habbad)
never so much as hint at the real doctrines of Hassidism
concerning non-Jews. The crime of deception is all the
greater in view of the fact that Buber's eulogies of Hassidism were first published in German during the period
of the rise of German nationalism and the accession of
Nazism to power. But while ostensibly opposing Nazism, Buber
glorified a movement holding and actually teaching doctrines
about non-Jews not unlike the Nazi doctrines about Jews. One
could of course argue that the Hassidic Jews of seventy or
fifty years ago were the victims, and a `white lie'
favouring a victim is usually excusable. But the
consequences of deception are incalculable. Buber's works
were translated into Hebrew, were made a powerful element of the Hebrew education in Israel, have greatly increased the
power of the bloodthirsty Hassidic leaders, and have thus
been an important factor in the rise of Israeli chauvinism
and hate of all non-Jews. If we think about the many human
beings who died of their wounds because Israeli army nurses,
incited by Hassidic propaganda, refused to tend them, then a
heavy onus for their blood lies on the head of Martin Buber.
Israel Shahak
"Jewish History, Jewish Religion-The Weight of Three Thousand Years"
Pluto Press, Boulder, CO


Go shove it up your azz.
 
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First ::This Fukhead says your Style shows you are a Nitwit; to be polite::

Every religion has its more radical sides to it , but when was the last time a Radical jew flew two JETS into some TOWERS KILLING THOUSANDS::

Yet to see where they are connected to saying ;humanity is swine;Americans are worms, dog feces and God is going to kick all our asses:

What are you afraid of , Some JEW might become President, I'm not Jewish so no bias, he has the RIGHT to be as righteous and fanatical about his religion as anyone as long as he does not HARM any Non-believers:::

Lets see, Muslims say you are an Infidel if you do not believe, and the non-believer shall be terminated, I'd start watching who is a Muslim in your schools, universities, Govt before you worry about a Jew that is zealous yet relative to Muslim fanatics harmless...

Thanks for the Update::

Sincerely, The Fkheads
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OK, here you go.....read on brother

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Chabad-Lubavitch is a philosophy, a movement, and an organization.
It is considered to be the most dynamic force in Jewish life today.

Philosophy:
The word "Chabad" is a Hebrew acronym for the three intellectual faculties of: chachmah-wisdom, binah-comprehension and da'at-knowledge. The movement's system of Jewish religious philosophy, the deepest dimension of G-d's Torah, teaches understanding and recognition of the Creator, the role and purpose of Creation, and the importance and unique mission of each Creature. This philosophy guides a person to refine and govern his and her every act and feeling through wisdom, comprehension and knowledge.

The word "Lubavitch" is the name of the town in White Russia where the movement was based for more than a century. Appropriately, the word Lubavitch in Russian means the "city of brotherly love." The name Lubavitch conveys the essence of the responsibility and love engendered by the Chabad philosophy toward every single Jew.

Movement:
Following its inception 250 years ago, the Chabad-Lubavitch movement swept through Russia and spread in surrounding countries as well. It provided scholars with answers that eluded them and simple farmers with a love that had been denied of them. Eventually the philosophy of Chabad-Lubavitch and its adherents reached almost every corner of the world and affected almost every facet of Jewish life.

Leadership:
The movement is guided by the teachings of its seven leaders ("Rebbe"'s), beginning with Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, of righteous memory (1745-1812). These leaders expounded upon the most refined and delicate aspects of Jewish mysticism, creating a corpus of study thousands of books strong. They personified the age-old, Biblical qualities of piety and leadership. And they concerned themselves not only with Chabad-Lubavitch, but with the totality of Jewish life, spiritual and physical. No person or detail was too small or insignificant for their love and dedication.

In our generation, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson of righteous memory (1902-1994), known simply as "the Rebbe," guided post-holocaust Jewry to safety from the ravages of that devastation.

Organization:
The origins of today's Chabad-Lubavitch organization can be traced to the early 1940's when the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak Schneersohn of righteous memory (1880-1950), appointed his son-in-law and later successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel, to head the newly-founded educational and social service arms of the movement.

Motivated by his profound love for every Jew and spurred by his boundless optimism and self-sacrifice, the Rebbe set into motion a dazzling array of programs, services and institutions to serve every Jew.

Today 4,000 full-time emissary families apply 250 year-old principles and philosophy to direct more than 2,700 institutions (and a workforce that numbers in the tens of thousands) dedicated to the welfare of the Jewish people worldwide
 

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cross burning

I will have to repeat myself once more, to disabuse you of the incorrect notions you seem to have innocently picked up by drawing unwarranted conclusions from improperly valuated observations. You?re statement of Dogs, Worms, and Feces is not only weird but wrong.

Every religion has extremist. These extremists in all religions make the center of the cause look bad. The Catholics have people who walk miles on their knees for redemption and forgiveness (Our Lady of Lourdes-France). The Protestants have Swaggart, Baker, those snake-handlers, that creepy woman with big hair on cable, and Jimmy Carter. The Muslims have Bin Laden. I?m sure somewhere there is a Jewish guy who will spew the filth you wrote. You cannot label the rest of the community on his words or actions anymore than you can think all Baptists think women are secondary citizens and should stay at home (Promise Keepers and The Southern Baptist Convention).

My previous post explains the movement that Ari follows. It is a pride-filled movement that has strong beliefs. Compare it to the Orthodox Church of God followers in the Protestant religion.

So before you start burning crosses or accusing someone of being a bigot, look into the mirror and examine why you feel it is necessary to spread such debris.
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hmm..

...first of all I never said nor implied that all Jews are such and such, for all you know I could be a Reform Jewish Rebbe, that's a teacher of Jewish Law to you who don't know. Therefore I would know that most, in fact the over whelming majority of, Jews are are not like the Chabad, but the Chabad does exist. Second of all, your insipid remarks, ingorant suggestions as to what I should do, (lol, like I'm gonna listen to a loser like you) and puerile attempts to frame persons who don't agree with you are assinine and counter-productive. It only goes to indicate that what I wrote about Chabad Lubavitcher Jews is accurate and has struck a nerve with you. You ADL types need to recognize that persons can and will be critical of whomever they chose, regardless of how you feel about it or what you do to defame persons whom who have never met, and for that matter are bigotted against a priori, as long as they don't agree with you, that is. Thirdly, Ari is a member of a radical organization of Jews that thinks that the Spawn of the Demoness Lilith, (Jews come from the union of Adam and Eve) that would be the unwashed Goyim, which means lesser people in Hebrew, and indeed, non-ultra-conservative Judaism, are all depraived and sub-human. Fact, deal with it, it's the truth. This aren't accusations; they are truths borne out in the racist hate-mongering literature that is dispersed throughout Israel every day of the week, including the sabbath, by these dispicable and loathsome individuals. It's unfortunate that Ari belongs to such a group, but he does. End of story. Now, please do try to refrain from using ad hominems, personal attacks , and childish slander to get your point across. However, I doubt you can write even a solitary paragraph without resorting to kindergarten techniques. Have a nice day.
 

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levelheaded study

Recognize that persons can and will be critical of whomever they chose.

Your views on the Chabad are excessive. I know the mythical Lilith you speak of and her role as a succubus and the demons spawned by her. I am familiar with the ideology of the Chabad. As stated beforehand they are a proud sort. To be frank many Jewish people Orthodox and the like hold these same basic principles. G-d?s ?chosen people? (Chronicles, Kings, basically the entire Old Testament) have often been persecuted for these arrogant beliefs that are backed by the same Bible many Christians hold as the holy word.

Ten, the only point I was trying to make is that Ari himself is not automatically in alignment with those who ?believe that except for the these particular Jews, humanity is swine, Americans are worms, little more than dog feces and that God will visit his awesome wrath on those individuals very soon?. Others maybe in his organization or even his Synagogue may believe this but not necessarily him. Just as not every W.A.S.P. will don a white robe and salute a burning cross.

I just ask for a little civility. I ask for a little levelheaded study and discussion. I never reverted to calling you any name. I never accused you of being a hatemonger. I just disagreed with your statements. Let me remind you, you asked that people be mindful to ?recognize that people can and will be critical of whoever they chose?. You are correct you may be as big of a Bigot as you care to be. You may hate people for any reason you wish race, color, creed, sex, who they have sex with?whatever. America is about your opinion and your right to hate just as much as it is about their rights to live however they wish.

Now, please do try to refrain from using superfluous adjectives to make your inconsequential intolerant argument sound acceptable to sophisticated and knowledgeable individuals. Your personal attacks and banter are equivalent to those used by other malicious persons with a not so hidden agenda. I?m not calling you out, but your case has been made before and most people can see right through it. Have a nice day. End of Story.
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listen Chief

No-one is gonna molify their behavior to suit your desires, get used to it. My writing style might be too grandiose for some, but so be it. Go back and read my posts and then decide what I said and what I believe. If Ari is accepting an award from some group, while spokeperson for the Administration, don't you think he'd either agree with or be sympathetic to their views before doing so? I sure as hell would. I never called anyone any names, it doesn't help our debate, nor did I claim that anyone slurred me, even if they actually did, I merely said that to do was not an adult activity, whch in fact it is not, however thinly disguised the slur. Why some insist on telling adult human beings what to do is beyond me but it belies insecurities. Btw, it funny that you called me "Ten," I don't know why but that happens a lot hmm... Good day.
 

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Child.....

Child.....

First my friend, my name is Blazer not Chief. Blaz, B, or any other short form is acceptable but not Chief. By calling someone Chief you look like a Bigot who has no respect for Native American culture.

Second my friend, you were the first to ?childishly? call names. Go back and read your post. On second thought?. here you ****heads need to read more.. This backlash erupted when I simply asked for proof. So you and your ?grandiose? grandstanding need to observe what you are doing before you advise other human beings.

Third my friend, I?ll put an end to this banter. I do not think Ari is an extremist. You do.
End of story. We will live our lives believing differently. That?s OK with me.

Your ?childish? reference of Go shove it up your azz. further tells the true story of your wit and repartee.




As for your name?. Ten trials of Abraham? Ten Commandments? Ten Tribes? There are many ?tens? in Jewish tradition. I honestly meant it as an abbreviation of the ?sherpia-like? name you use.
:cool: :rolleyes: ;) :cool:
 
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