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17-4-2

Sorry guys no time for writeups, have to work in the morning and just wanted to post picks so here goes:


Ohio St -13.5 2x
Louisville -9.5 2x (I know it is not big ten, but pitino knows IU almost better than any big ten school) Also 3 road game in a row for IU
Minny -5.5 2x
Wisc -20 2x
Iowa +2 2x
Iowa Money Line +105 2x

GL ALL! Countinguy:)
 

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Just a question why are you on Iowa i know they are getting points at home which is huge in the big ten with a week off from their last game but they lost reiner and he was part of there small 7 man rotation. The hawks have made only about 10 shots longer than 15 feet in there last 2 games. Im a hawkeye fan but i just dont see how they get it done tommarrow. They are better than Penn State and Northwestern, and that is about it. Not ripping on your play im just wondering why you are going that direction.

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treynolds...


First and foremost this forum is about one thing.

The goal of this place is to get as much info from both sides of the fence to make the best play possible.

Posting insite on what you see, right or wrong, speaks volumes for those handicappers that read and evaluate informative opinions to reach an educated conclusion. Personally, I get TONS more from reading WHY someone likes/dislikes a team when they give some take on the rationale behind their theories.

If you can save just one person from a bet, or get someone onto a play they've already scratched, then you're contributing. Bottom line.


I fully understand not treading in on someone's thread, but if its in the general interest of the forum and the betterment of the readers.... its a disservice not to proceed. If any poster takes offense to questioning a play, then they possess more ego than understanding.

Not saying that is what is happening here AT ALL. Be clear on that. But wanted to give a bit of a 'lecture' on the intent of the forum. Not necessarily for yourself, but for all readers. We're all here to make some scratch.
 

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I dont mean to offend him on his pick at all im just looking for his reasoning.

His record speaks for him and he is a great capper i always take a look at his picks when he posts. im just trying to get more insight out of him as we are both big ten fans and i agree with him on all of his other plays. Im not trying to talk him out of his play im just looking for more info and giving him a little extra that i know from watching the hawkeye's game after game. I think they might be close to the worst home record ats in the big ten over the last two years also.

GL to all



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Good call on OU I passed it was too close in my #s wish I would have played it... ;)

Good luck with the rest of your plays BUDDY!
 

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Iowa Story

Iowa Story

Alford sees storm as a test of faith

A hero in Indiana, Iowa coach has born ire of fans and public since player's arrest



By Michael Pointer

michael.pointer@indystar.com

February 1, 2003

IOWA CITY, Iowa -- An Indiana resident passing through the Hawkeye State last fall may have thought he was in a foreign country.

"Fire Alford," one sign read outside Carver-Hawkeye Arena before an Iowa exhibition game.






"Coach Alford was out of line," read a headline above a story in The Des Moines Register that questioned Iowa coach Steve Alford's actions regarding a sexual-assault allegation involving one of his players.

This wasn't the Steve Alford, was it?

The guy with the perfect hair and even better jump shot, who played in front of crowds of more than 9,000 at New Castle's Chrysler Fieldhouse and led Indiana University to the 1987 NCAA title? Who some IU fans prayed would replace the fired Bob Knight in 2000?

Yes, the one and only.

"I have weathered a pretty substantial storm," said Alford, whose Hawkeyes host Purdue tonight. "I would hope that I have grown."

In a span of 10 months, three Iowa players transferred, another flunked out of school, and three more had run-ins with police -- including sophomore guard Pierre Pierce, who pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault after originally being charged with third-degree sexual assault.

It seemed everyone was taking Alford to task -- whether it was the Iowa media, advocates for sexual-abuse victims or the local prosecuting attorney.

"What really hurt me for quite some time is that my character was being attacked and who I was as a person," Alford said during a Friday morning interview.

"It hurt in the beginning, but my faith has grown. Maybe that was something that was thrown my way because I've had so many things happen to me in life that are so good."

Added Tanya Alford, Steve's wife: "It was very difficult for him. He felt people like this were using this as an opportunity to find something nasty on him that wasn't there."

The Alford family recently moved into a new house, and Steve says he's committed to Iowa over the long term. He praises Iowa fans but admits that Iowa City is unlike any place he has ever lived.

"The one thing I've learned in the last five months is the liberalism of this community," Alford, a conservative Christian, said with a smile.

Johnson County (Iowa) prosecuting attorney J. Patrick White, who criticized Alford's handling of the Pierce case, hopes he's learned plenty. Iowa City is in Johnson County.

"I think Steve made more difficult the price and burden of sex-abuse victims generally, and the victim in this particular case, with insensitive remarks that were simply wrong," White said.

Alford's problems began even before the summer. The Hawkeyes were expected to contend for the Big Ten title last season behind the powerful tandem of Luke Recker and Reggie Evans. Instead, they went just 19-16 overall and 5-11 in the Big Ten.

"I think I compromised too much in allowing the seniors to dictate the conditioning, how long we would work in practice, those kind of things, instead of just saying, 'Hey, I've been here before as a player and a coach.' I know what I'm doing," he said.

That put the local fan base in a bad mood. The events of last summer only intensified it.

Juniors Sean Sonderleiter (marijuana possession) and Brody Boyd (possession of alcohol by a minor) were cited by police in July.

Sonderleiter said marijuana was left behind by someone who borrowed the car. Boyd said he wasn't drinking, but he was in violation of a local law that requires minors to be at least an arm's length away from alcoholic beverages.

Erek Hansen was declared academically ineligible. Fellow redshirt freshman Marcellus Sommerville transferred in August to Belleville (Ill.) Junior College and subsequently signed with Bradley. Incoming freshman Eric Rhodes got homesick soon after and left the team.

But that was nothing compared to the firestorm that erupted when Pierce was arrested after allegedly assaulting an Iowa female athlete on the night of Sept. 7.

"I totally believe he's innocent," Alford said during the Big Ten media day in Chicago in October.

At about that same time, lawyers for Pierce and the victim were nearing an agreement, whereby Pierce would plead guilty to a misdemeanor attempt-to-injure charge. He would receive a sentence of 200 hours of community service, undergo counseling and be redshirted by the Hawkeyes this season.

"Here is Steve Alford, in a position of authority in the athletic department, who is oblivious to the responsibility of what Pierce is going to plead guilty to," White said.

Alford said he knew nothing about the plea agreement negotiations and he takes strong exception to White's remarks. All he was attempting to do was support Pierce, who is practicing but not traveling with the team.

"For a public figure to attack another public figure without ever even meeting them is wrong," said Alford, who believes White's comments spurred protests before an Iowa exhibition game in November.

Those protesters say that Alford rushed to judgment and never made a statement denouncing violence against women.

"If he was a person that took sexual violence against women seriously, he would have reacted differently," said Jill Moffett, an Iowa graduate student and protest organizer.

Even though he was critical of Alford, White thinks the ongoing investigations by the university merely have allowed the case to fester.

No university representatives took part in the plea bargain negotiations, which were mediated by a Des Moines attorney, White said.

Alford still believes many of the reports on him and his players were unfair but said he no longer dwells on them.

Another thing that has helped is this Iowa team. The Hawkeyes are 11-5 overall and 3-2 in the Big Ten. They are relying primarily on just six players.

"This team is playing hard," said Roger Mildenstein, the owner of the Fin & Feather, an Iowa City sporting goods store and Iowa season-ticket holder. "You can't help but root for them."
 

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Ok Blew my first game by a 1/2 a point, line prob went down this morning, but had to bet it last nite cause of work!

Ok I was asked a couple of question for Iowa, which doesn't bother me by any means. May be a good reason for some of u to lay off Iowa but I am playing it. It is all ready locked and loaded.

Steve Alford is under a lot of heat right now, from the press, from the fans. His character is at sake right at the moment. To me that is a big reason I think he will be pumped and have the team pumped for todays game. Just for the good of his own character, very important to him.

I do not see how it could be possible for him to lose 2 games in a row at home, very very unlikely! Iowa is 1-2 at home, the odds are on their side.

Also Purdue is great at home, but they have only played 2 conf games on the road. 1 being Illinois which they got beat by 13 and another being Penn State which they won by 4. YOU CANNOT COMPARE IOWA TO PENN ST!!!!! Completely better team, I don't care what anybody says, I would argue that til the cows come home.

Another thing about Alford, everybody knows Alford is an old IU guy, and old IU guys completely despise Purdue, period!

Well anyways, this the way I am wagering. Use u own judgement on it! Also just like the story I posted said Iowa is mainly relying on 6 players! So I might be completely wrong here! I will know by 10pm!!

GL Everybody! For them or against them BIG TEN ROCKS!
Countinguy

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GL with the hawks i hope they win

Brunner will fill in for reiner today which will be alot of added offense but he is not a good defender. As long as the hawks dont try a zone it will be a tight game.




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man, that indiana game made me sick....

countinguy, you got bawls laying -20 with wiscy....

but that's why you're the shit in the BIG TEN.

won't doubt you again....

but cmon.......INDIANA?????


guess it's good to be a bit lucky.
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Yep never hurts,


FYI Indiana will win next game on road at Northwestern;) They will not lose 4 games in a row, no possible for even Mike Davis;)

Penn State didn't even arrive for that game today, they were actually much worse than I even dreamed, unbelieveable!:)
 
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