Looking at this Boise game, line opened at -9 down to -7. A site I don't 100% trust shows 9880 wages placed with 62% on Fresno. Fresno took a Flu plagued Wiscy to double OT and lost. Extra minutes played by Fresno? Boise has owned Fresno 7 of last 8. I'm not too familiar with the ever changing roster of college ball so I don't have any match up info. I just see this as a 11 or 12 point game. Boise is addressing snap issues that has cost this team points in the 2 first games. Whatcha guys think on this one?
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I'd take Boise in this one... Fresno might still be a little pissed off they let the Wisky game get away.
Scouting Fresno State: Broncos at Bulldogs
? COACH
Pat Hill has led Fresno State football for 13 seasons, posting a 93-62 record overall (fourth-most wins in WAC history) and a 64-31 mark in the WAC. The Bulldogs have beaten 14 BCS teams since 2000, second-most in the nation among non-BCS schools.
Still, he has often come under fire for what he hasn't done. The Bulldogs have not earned a BCS berth - they were ranked No. 8 in 2001 before losing to Boise State - and they have not won an outright WAC title under Hill.
The Bulldogs have lost at least two WAC games every year of Hill's tenure. They shared the WAC title in 1999.
? OFFENSE
The Bulldogs are loaded on offense this season with four experienced wideouts and three proven running backs to complement junior quarterback Ryan Colburn, a first-year starter (see story).
? DEFENSE
The Bulldogs did a nice job last week against Wisconsin except for one play - a 72-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter. Take out that play and the Bulldogs, who lost in double overtime, allowed 296 yards in regulation and stuffed the run.
Two players to watch - linebacker Ben Jacobs and defensive end Chris Carter. Jacobs (6-foot-5, 240 pounds) made 113 tackles last season and already has 21 this season. Carter (6-2, 220), an undersized but speedy converted linebacker, recorded two sacks at Wisconsin. He broke a bone in his hand but Hill hopes he will play this week.
? SPECIAL TEAMS
The Bulldogs are one of the nation's best special-teams outfits. They lead the nation with 45 blocked kicks since 2002. They have returned 27 kicks for touchdowns since 1997 - including three kickoff returns by senior cornerback A.J. Jefferson. The punt team hasn't allowed any return yards this year. The question mark surrounds sophomore kicker Kevin Goessling, who missed a critical kick against Wisconsin for the second straight year.
? COACH
Pat Hill has led Fresno State football for 13 seasons, posting a 93-62 record overall (fourth-most wins in WAC history) and a 64-31 mark in the WAC. The Bulldogs have beaten 14 BCS teams since 2000, second-most in the nation among non-BCS schools.
Still, he has often come under fire for what he hasn't done. The Bulldogs have not earned a BCS berth - they were ranked No. 8 in 2001 before losing to Boise State - and they have not won an outright WAC title under Hill.
The Bulldogs have lost at least two WAC games every year of Hill's tenure. They shared the WAC title in 1999.
? OFFENSE
The Bulldogs are loaded on offense this season with four experienced wideouts and three proven running backs to complement junior quarterback Ryan Colburn, a first-year starter (see story).
? DEFENSE
The Bulldogs did a nice job last week against Wisconsin except for one play - a 72-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter. Take out that play and the Bulldogs, who lost in double overtime, allowed 296 yards in regulation and stuffed the run.
Two players to watch - linebacker Ben Jacobs and defensive end Chris Carter. Jacobs (6-foot-5, 240 pounds) made 113 tackles last season and already has 21 this season. Carter (6-2, 220), an undersized but speedy converted linebacker, recorded two sacks at Wisconsin. He broke a bone in his hand but Hill hopes he will play this week.
? SPECIAL TEAMS
The Bulldogs are one of the nation's best special-teams outfits. They lead the nation with 45 blocked kicks since 2002. They have returned 27 kicks for touchdowns since 1997 - including three kickoff returns by senior cornerback A.J. Jefferson. The punt team hasn't allowed any return yards this year. The question mark surrounds sophomore kicker Kevin Goessling, who missed a critical kick against Wisconsin for the second straight year.
Fresno State's offense is loaded with weapons at skill positions
You've probably heard of Fresno State's offensive stars.
You just haven't seen them all - at least not together.
The Bulldogs suddenly are loaded with experienced, explosive offensive players because all of them are healthy at the same time.
They have three wide receivers who have led the team in receiving for a season, three tailbacks with more than 1,000 rushing yards in their careers, another veteran wide receiver who had a 70-yard catch against Wisconsin, a young tailback who is stealing playing time from the veterans and a dual-threat quarterback who enters for some plays.
No. 10 Boise State will have to deal with all of those weapons in the WAC opener at 7:06 p.m. Friday night at Bulldog Stadium in Fresno, Calif.
"They're a more diverse team," Boise State football coach Chris Petersen said. "? They're giving you more to have to defend."
That was on display last week when the Bulldogs outplayed the Wisconsin Badgers for much of a 34-31, double-overtime loss. Junior quarterback Ryan Colburn, a first-year starter, threw for 289 yards and four touchdowns. Three different wide receivers had at least five catches. And at the same time, tailbacks Ryan Mathews and Robbie Rouse combined for 153 rushing yards on just 25 carries.
With both offensive phases performing so well, the Bulldogs become much more difficult to defend. Last year, the Bulldogs rushed for nearly as many yards as they gained through the air.
"Passing the ball the last couple years, it's kind of been non-existent," senior wide receiver Seyi Ajirotutu said. "We've worked extra hard on the passing game and we're just trying to showcase it."
The run-pass combination is potent. That's why the Fresno State receivers spent all afternoon running free in the Wisconsin secondary.
"Their run game sets up the pass game," Boise State senior cornerback Kyle Wilson said. "They have some very good wide receivers and they just make plays. I definitely think it will be a nice test for us."
The Fresno State arsenal is extensive.
In the backfield, the Bulldogs boast the shifty Mathews (5.9 yards per carry, 23 TDs in 20 career games), the blazing Lonyae Miller (5.6 yards per carry, 1,759 career rushing yards), the powerful Anthony Harding (4.9 yards per carry) and the true-freshman phenom Rouse (7.6 yards per carry this season).
"I know that every time they touch the ball they can take it to the house," said Mathews, a junior who has topped 100 yards in each of the first two games this season. "It's spectacular to watch them run."
At wideout, the Bulldogs mix in Ajirotutu (16.4 yards per catch in his career, team's leading receiver in 2008), senior Chastin West (team's leading receiver in 2006), senior Marlon Moore (15.1 yards per catch in his career, team's leading receiver in 2007) and junior Devon Wylie, who had the 70-yard TD against Wisconsin.
"The depth is amazing," Boise State junior linebacker Derrell Acrey said.
Mathews, Moore, West and Miller have missed significant playing time in their careers. West missed the entire 2007 season; Mathews only played 18 of 26 games the past two seasons, missing last year's game in Boise.
The Bulldogs only scored 30 points in one of their final five games last season. Putting all those weapons together this year, they have scored 51 (against UC Davis) and 31.
"We're feeding off each other, off the running backs, off the whole offense," Ajirotutu said. "We each want to do our part and give our contribution to the offense."
You've probably heard of Fresno State's offensive stars.
You just haven't seen them all - at least not together.
The Bulldogs suddenly are loaded with experienced, explosive offensive players because all of them are healthy at the same time.
They have three wide receivers who have led the team in receiving for a season, three tailbacks with more than 1,000 rushing yards in their careers, another veteran wide receiver who had a 70-yard catch against Wisconsin, a young tailback who is stealing playing time from the veterans and a dual-threat quarterback who enters for some plays.
No. 10 Boise State will have to deal with all of those weapons in the WAC opener at 7:06 p.m. Friday night at Bulldog Stadium in Fresno, Calif.
"They're a more diverse team," Boise State football coach Chris Petersen said. "? They're giving you more to have to defend."
That was on display last week when the Bulldogs outplayed the Wisconsin Badgers for much of a 34-31, double-overtime loss. Junior quarterback Ryan Colburn, a first-year starter, threw for 289 yards and four touchdowns. Three different wide receivers had at least five catches. And at the same time, tailbacks Ryan Mathews and Robbie Rouse combined for 153 rushing yards on just 25 carries.
With both offensive phases performing so well, the Bulldogs become much more difficult to defend. Last year, the Bulldogs rushed for nearly as many yards as they gained through the air.
"Passing the ball the last couple years, it's kind of been non-existent," senior wide receiver Seyi Ajirotutu said. "We've worked extra hard on the passing game and we're just trying to showcase it."
The run-pass combination is potent. That's why the Fresno State receivers spent all afternoon running free in the Wisconsin secondary.
"Their run game sets up the pass game," Boise State senior cornerback Kyle Wilson said. "They have some very good wide receivers and they just make plays. I definitely think it will be a nice test for us."
The Fresno State arsenal is extensive.
In the backfield, the Bulldogs boast the shifty Mathews (5.9 yards per carry, 23 TDs in 20 career games), the blazing Lonyae Miller (5.6 yards per carry, 1,759 career rushing yards), the powerful Anthony Harding (4.9 yards per carry) and the true-freshman phenom Rouse (7.6 yards per carry this season).
"I know that every time they touch the ball they can take it to the house," said Mathews, a junior who has topped 100 yards in each of the first two games this season. "It's spectacular to watch them run."
At wideout, the Bulldogs mix in Ajirotutu (16.4 yards per catch in his career, team's leading receiver in 2008), senior Chastin West (team's leading receiver in 2006), senior Marlon Moore (15.1 yards per catch in his career, team's leading receiver in 2007) and junior Devon Wylie, who had the 70-yard TD against Wisconsin.
"The depth is amazing," Boise State junior linebacker Derrell Acrey said.
Mathews, Moore, West and Miller have missed significant playing time in their careers. West missed the entire 2007 season; Mathews only played 18 of 26 games the past two seasons, missing last year's game in Boise.
The Bulldogs only scored 30 points in one of their final five games last season. Putting all those weapons together this year, they have scored 51 (against UC Davis) and 31.
"We're feeding off each other, off the running backs, off the whole offense," Ajirotutu said. "We each want to do our part and give our contribution to the offense."
I am still not that impressed with Fresno going to OT with Wisky.. Wisky defense sucks and I am waiting for them to get smashed in a few games this year.. On the same token it does seem like a lot of points?/ I think I am going to pass on the game
with only 2 weeks of this season over there is'nt much to work with but I would like to compare Fresnos O to O of last couple of years. ARE they that much improved that the $$$ is going their way? Boise 62-10 last year, would need a lot of improvement to get there in my opinion. still digging.
Boise are 7-2 SU/ATS vs FRES since 1996. Points doesn't come in to play between these 2 teams.
Code:
SU: 2-7-0 (-12.9)
ATS: 2-7-0 (-9.7)
Date Day # Season Team Opp Site Final Rest Line Total SUm ATSm SUr ATSr
2-Nov-96 SAT 8 1996 FRES BOIS H 41-7 6 -19 34 15 W W
19-Oct-01 FRI 7 2001 FRES BOIS H 30-35 5 -16 -5 -21 L L
18-Oct-02 FRI 8 2002 FRES BOIS A 21-67 5 7 -46 -39 L L
21-Nov-03 FRI 12 2003 FRES BOIS H 17-31 5 8 -14 -6 L L
23-Oct-04 SAT 6 2004 FRES BOIS A 16-33 13 9 -17 -8 L L
10-Nov-05 THU 9 2005 FRES BOIS H 27-7 4 -8 20 12 W W
1-Nov-06 WED 8 2006 FRES BOIS A 21-45 10 23 60 -24 -1 L L
26-Oct-07 FRI 8 2007 FRES BOIS H 21-34 5 4 63' -13 -9 L L
28-Nov-08 FRI 12 2008 FRES BOIS A Oct-61 6 21 57 -51 -30 L L
18-Sep-09 FRI 3 2009 FRES BOIS H 5 +7' 54
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All those earlier games between the teams were played mid/late october to mid/late november, this is the first time game's played this early in the season.
At least 4 weeks worth of possible injuries could have made an impact. I'm too lazy to do it now, but one should check for big injuries in latest matchups.
At least 4 weeks worth of possible injuries could have made an impact. I'm too lazy to do it now, but one should check for big injuries in latest matchups.
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Boise is a damn good team no matter what.
I just hate those clowns ! Weather conditions is never a factor because the kids come from every where. It more than likely will be hot in the San Woc Valley. I can tell you this, the visiting fans will be treated like shit, or should I say like Taylor Swift at the VMA's ? just another opportunity to say FUCK YOU KANYE WORST ! Anyways I digress..... When I was up there with my family for an Oregon St. game, the Fresneck St. Boosters put us out in BFE in a tent and the wind was blowing shit everywhere, it was over 100. Does that get into the heads of the players that their families are stuck in that crap?
You tell me.....
Oregon State vs. Fresno State
I just hate those clowns ! Weather conditions is never a factor because the kids come from every where. It more than likely will be hot in the San Woc Valley. I can tell you this, the visiting fans will be treated like shit, or should I say like Taylor Swift at the VMA's ? just another opportunity to say FUCK YOU KANYE WORST ! Anyways I digress..... When I was up there with my family for an Oregon St. game, the Fresneck St. Boosters put us out in BFE in a tent and the wind was blowing shit everywhere, it was over 100. Does that get into the heads of the players that their families are stuck in that crap?
You tell me.....
Oregon State vs. Fresno State
I show opening line was -7.5, which is where it is now. I also show 91% on Boise ATS. Buy it down to 7 if you have to and take Boise, if the badgers can beat Fresno, Boise will win by 10+
Coming off a heartbreaking loss to the Wisconsin Badgers 34-31 in double overtime the Bulldogs now prepare for the biggest game of the season. Friday night the Broncos of Boise St visit the doghouse. The rivalry has been one sided since Boise came into the league 2001 with Fresno State winning only 1 game in 2005.
The Bulldogs will look for revenge after being dismantled last year in Boise 61-10, in what some fan call the worst loss in the history of Fresno State. This year the Bulldogs hope to return the favor and crush the BCS dreams of the Broncos. The game should be very competitive this year as the Bulldogs are looking good early in the season despite the loss to Wisconsin last week. New quarterback Ryan Colburn has taken control of the team and has proven that he can throw the deep ball. Fresno State is also running the ball great as Junior Ryan Matthews has gone over 100 yards in the first two games of the season.
The Dogs will have to worry about the high scoring offense of the Broncos. They have a great quarterback in Kellen Moore and have great players at every position. The game is sold out as all 41031 tickets have been sold. The Broncos have beaten the dogs in almost every year. The Broncos are ranked 10th in the nation and will be the highest ranked tea to ever come in and play in Bulldog Stadium.
The Dogs win if they get off to a good start and the defense holds the Broncos to below 20 points. I think that Ryan Matthews rushing the ball along with Lonye Miller and Anthony Harding is key. Watch out for Ebhan Feathers as he has been put in the game for special plays that gives the Dogs a running threat at QB. The Dogs defense also has been doing well against the run and hopes to continue against the Broncos. One more player to watch is Devon Wylie as he had a huge game against Wisconsin and ran a 4.25 in spring and summer camp breaking a Fresno State Record.
The Bulldogs will look for revenge after being dismantled last year in Boise 61-10, in what some fan call the worst loss in the history of Fresno State. This year the Bulldogs hope to return the favor and crush the BCS dreams of the Broncos. The game should be very competitive this year as the Bulldogs are looking good early in the season despite the loss to Wisconsin last week. New quarterback Ryan Colburn has taken control of the team and has proven that he can throw the deep ball. Fresno State is also running the ball great as Junior Ryan Matthews has gone over 100 yards in the first two games of the season.
The Dogs will have to worry about the high scoring offense of the Broncos. They have a great quarterback in Kellen Moore and have great players at every position. The game is sold out as all 41031 tickets have been sold. The Broncos have beaten the dogs in almost every year. The Broncos are ranked 10th in the nation and will be the highest ranked tea to ever come in and play in Bulldog Stadium.
The Dogs win if they get off to a good start and the defense holds the Broncos to below 20 points. I think that Ryan Matthews rushing the ball along with Lonye Miller and Anthony Harding is key. Watch out for Ebhan Feathers as he has been put in the game for special plays that gives the Dogs a running threat at QB. The Dogs defense also has been doing well against the run and hopes to continue against the Broncos. One more player to watch is Devon Wylie as he had a huge game against Wisconsin and ran a 4.25 in spring and summer camp breaking a Fresno State Record.
