Burmese Monks

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Wishing them luck. Talk about brass balls. :clap: :clap:
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Buddhist monks defy assembly ban

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Security forces fired warning shots and tear gas canisters while hauling Buddhist monks away in trucks Wednesday as they tried to stop anti-government demonstrations in defiance of a ban on assembly.

About 300 monks and activists were arrested across Yangon, according to an exile dissident group, and reporters saw a number of monks ? who are highly revered in Myanmar ? being dragged into trucks.

The junta had banned all public gatherings of more than five people and imposed a nighttime curfew following eight days of anti-government marches led by monks in Yangon and other areas of the country, including the biggest protests in nearly two decades.

A march toward the center of Yangon followed a tense confrontation at the city's famed Shwedagon Pagoda between the protesters and riot police who fired warning shots into the air, beat some monks and dragged others away into waiting trucks.

The latest developments could further alienate already isolated Myanmar from the international community and put pressure on China, Myanmar's top economic and diplomatic supporter, which is keen to burnish its international image before next year's Olympics in Beijing.

But if the junta backs down, it risks appearing weak and emboldening protesters, which could escalate the tension.

When faced with a similar crisis in 1988, the government harshly put down a student-led democracy uprising. Security forces fired into crowds of peaceful demonstrators and killed thousands, traumatizing the nation.

The potential for a violent crackdown already had aroused international concern, with pleas for the junta to deal peacefully with the situation coming from government and religious leaders worldwide. They included the Dalai Lama and South Africa's Archbishop Desmond Tutu, both Nobel Peace Prize laureates like detained Myanmar opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

On Wednesday, about 5,000 monks and 5,000 students along with members of the party headed by detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi set off from Shwedagon to the Sule Pagoda in the heart of Myanmar's largest city but were blocked by military trucks along the route.

Other protesters at the Sule Pagoda were confronted by warning shots.

Some carried flags emblazoned with the fighting peacock, a key symbol of the democracy movement in Myanmar. The march proceeded quietly with protesters praying rather than chanting.

About 100 monks stayed behind at the eastern gate of the Shwedagon, refusing to obey orders to disperse after riot police there failed to dislodge them despite employing tear gas, batons and warning shots.

Witnesses said an angry mob at the pagoda burned two police motorcycles.

A branch of Suu Kyi's National League for Democracy exiled in Thailand said the arrests in Yangon numbered 300, most of them in a western suburb of the city. The number could not be independently confirmed.

In Myanmar's second largest city of Mandalay, more than 100 soldiers armed with assault rifles deployed around the Mahamuni Paya Pagoda

"We are so afraid; the soldiers are ready to fire on civilians at any time," a man near the pagoda said, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

Authorities announced the ban on gatherings and a 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. curfew through loudspeakers on vehicles cruising the streets of Yangon and Mandalay Tuesday. The announcement said the measures would be in effect for 60 days.

Myanmar's imposition of new restrictions after a week of relative inaction by the military government throws down a challenge to its opponents, testing their mettle when faced with almost certain arrest.

It was not clear what the penalty for defying the curfew would be. But breaking the section of the law restricting gatherings carries a possible jail term of two years.

A comedian famed for his anti-government jibes became the first well-known activist rounded up after the curfew was imposed.

Zarganar, who uses only one name, was taken away from his home by authorities shortly after midnight, with family members saying authorities told them the 45-year-old had been "called in for temporary questioning."

Zarganar, along with actor Kyaw Thu and poet Aung Way, led a committee that provided food and other necessities to the Buddhist monks who have spearheaded the protests. He earlier had been imprisoned twice and his comedy routines were banned for their satirical jokes about the regime.

The fates of the actor and poet were not immediately known.

President Bush on Tuesday announced new U.S. sanctions against Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, accusing the military dictatorship of imposing "a 19-year reign of fear" that denies basic freedoms of speech, assembly and worship.

"Americans are outraged by the situation in Burma," Bush said in an address to the U.N. General Assembly in New York.

Bush said the U.S. would tighten economic sanctions on leaders of the regime and their financial backers, and impose an expanded visa ban on those responsible for human rights violations and their families.

The European Union also threatened to strengthen existing sanctions against the regime if it uses violence to put down the demonstrations.

The protests could bring increased scrutiny on China's close relations with Myanmar. China is the country's major trading partner and Chinese energy companies are investing in exploration of natural gas in Myanmar.

Myanmar has about 19 trillion cubic feet of proven natural gas reserves, only about 0.3 percent of the world's total reserves, according to BP's Statistical Review of World Energy at the end of 2006. Although it doesn't currently export gas to China, its supply could potentially help feed a rapidly growing Chinese economy hungry for energy.

The current protests began Aug. 19 after the government hiked fuel prices in one of Asia's poorest countries. But they are based in deep-rooted dissatisfaction with the repressive military rule that has gripped the country since 1962.

The protests were faltering when the monks took the lead last week, assuming the role of a moral conscience they played in previous struggles against British colonialism and military dictators.

At least 35,000 Buddhist monks and sympathizers defied official warnings Tuesday and staged another anti-government march.

"The protest is not merely for the well-being of people but also for monks struggling for democracy and for people to have an opportunity to determine their own future," one monk told The Associated Press. "People do not tolerate the military government any longer." He spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of official reprisals.

On Monday, a massive monk-led protest drew as many as 100,000 people in Yangon ? the biggest street protest since the failed 1988 uprising.

The head of the country's official Buddhist organization, or Sangha, issued a directive Monday ordering monks to stick to learning and propagating the faith, saying young monks were being "compelled by a group of destructive elements within and without to break the law," the state-run New Light of Myanmar newspaper said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070926/ap_on_re_as/myanmar
 

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The Christian missionaries in Burma/Myanmar have been undergoing similar pressure for many years. I have a friend who is actually in Thailand now but spent several years in Burma. Quite a calling for people to do this and undergo similar horrible treatment. Unlike many posters in this political forum, I'm extremely proud to be an American and not have to encounter this sort of thing. :00x21
 

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Unlike many posters in this political forum, I'm extremely proud to be an American and not have to encounter this sort of thing. :00x21

That's fairly stereotypical don't you think? Oh yeah, I forgot, anyone who disagrees with the Iraq war or with the President's policies is naturally anti-American. :rolleyes:

And although you may be "proud" to be an American, along with many other Americans who buy their bumper stickers saying so, these monks are truly proud of their values by defying a government they don't believe in. And that doesn't mean they are not proud to be Burmese. It means they are proud and want their country to be built upon principles they can believe in. Perhaps if more proud Americans stood up for what they believed in, this country wouldn't be headed in the direction that it is.

I don't really like that word...proud. It's kind of ugly.
 

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That's fairly stereotypical don't you think? Oh yeah, I forgot, anyone who disagrees with the Iraq war or with the President's policies is naturally anti-American. :rolleyes:

And although you may be "proud" to be an American, along with many other Americans who buy their bumper stickers saying so, these monks are truly proud of their values by defying a government they don't believe in. And that doesn't mean they are not proud to be Burmese. It means they are proud and want their country to be built upon principles they can believe in. Perhaps if more proud Americans stood up for what they believed in, this country wouldn't be headed in the direction that it is.

I don't really like that word...proud. It's kind of ugly.

wasn't even thinking of you when I mentioned posters in this forum who hate their own country. Thanks for the diatribe; don't u know me better than that? I have a big heart for missionaries and that field and have posted such many times; that was the jist of my post, and I like to call attention to those brave, self sacrificers every chance I get.

I'm all for diversity and people who think differently than I do. anti-hunting, gay, liberal, we shouldn't have dropped the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, environmentalist "nuts", anti-gun, slave reparation wanters, global warmers, 911 'the government did it' gang, pro abortionists, etc. else that I have different views on; that makes this forum and the world go around. I would consider you a friend even though you are far far away from most of my views.
 

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wasn't even thinking of you when I mentioned posters in this forum who hate their own country. Thanks for the diatribe; don't u know me better than that? I have a big heart for missionaries and that field and have posted such many times; that was the jist of my post, and I like to call attention to those brave, self sacrificers every chance I get.

I'm all for diversity and people who think differently than I do. anti-hunting, gay, liberal, we shouldn't have dropped the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, environmentalist "nuts", anti-gun, slave reparation wanters, global warmers, 911 'the government did it' gang, pro abortionists, etc. else that I have different views on; that makes this forum and the world go around. I would consider you a friend even though you are far far away from most of my views.

Sorry to jump to conclusions. It seems that most people who post in this forum are proud of their country even if they don't feel that everything that our country does is correct. Just by taking time to post in a political forum shows that they cares... I also appreciate the diverse views that my friends here and elsewhere have and am sorry if I offended you by my post. I guess it's almost time to go home from work and I'm a little stir crazy...

Peace :SIB
 

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Sorry to jump to conclusions. It seems that most people who post in this forum are proud of their country even if they don't feel that everything that our country does is correct. Just by taking time to post in a political forum shows that they cares... I also appreciate the diverse views that my friends here and elsewhere have and am sorry if I offended you by my post. I guess it's almost time to go home from work and I'm a little stir crazy...

Peace :SIB

takes a lot to offend me. :SIB
 

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The Monks certainly are a courageous bunch--would be a cause for a bi-partisan contribution from U.S. to help them.

We could send battleship with troops to set just off the coast as intimidation factor while our protesting entity head over there and join forces with the Monks in show of solidarity.

Think there would be any chance of the our protesting element contributing Hippo?

Why not?

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