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that looks like what bleeddodgerblue would do to barclay if he saw him walking down the street :scared
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YES IT WAS THIS WEEKEND AND THAT MUTHERFVCKER SHOULD BE KICKED OFF THE TEAM AND THROWN IN JAIL
i dont undersand how in sports you dont get criminally prosecuted for trrying to hurt someone. i've heard of civil lawsuits, but never criminal. every year you see this type of thing in sports, but never heard of someone going to jail.
BOSTON -- Boston College coach Tom O'Brien said Sunday he will ask the Atlantic Coast Conference to review a late hit on Mathias Kiwanuka so they can tell him "if that's the way we're going to play football in this league."
"I don't want to prejudge what the ACC should do," O'Brien said a day after BC beat Virginia 28-17. "I just think it's a situation they need to look into."
Kiwanuka, the preseason conference defensive player of the year, and defensive lineman Al Washington will be allowed to play in Saturday's game against Wake Forest despite being ejected against Virginia, O'Brien said.
The score was 7-7 early in the third quarter when Virginia offensive lineman Brad Butler chop-blocked Kiwanuka after the whistle. Washington retaliated and was ejected; BC linebacker Brian Toal hit Butler one play later and drew a personal foul.
Virginia coach Al Groh said Sunday that he hadn't seen the play until about 24 hours after the game. He said he had spoken to Butler about the hit but declined to reveal to reporters what his player said.
"This was a very intense competition throughout the game, with two highly motivated players," Groh said. "This was just one of a number of plays in the game on either side in which maybe there was a little more exuberance than necessary. The thing has to be viewed ... relative to other incidents that did not get national television exposure."
Asked if the school would consider disciplinary action against Butler, Groh said: "There are a number of offices that have an interest in the circumstances with whom we've had conversations."
Kiwanuka was ejected in the fourth quarter for trying to exact his revenge.
"I was embarrassed with how we reacted," O'Brien said. "I thought we did a very poor job, and that reflects on me and everyone on this football team. We tried to escalate it, and we almost lost the football game because of it."
Toal's penalty put the Cavaliers on the BC 23 and Deyon Williams caught a 23-yard touchdown pass on the next play to make it 14-7. But the Eagles scored touchdowns on three of their next four possessions to take a 28-17 lead.
O'Brien said the hit, which was replayed on the stadium scoreboard, fired up an otherwise sedate crowd.
It also fired up his team.
"Yeah, it got us angry," BC quarterback Quinton Porter said after the game. "It's the last time anybody takes a cheap shot on us."
Kiwanuka, who was the Big East defensive player of the year last year, was already smarting from a sore ankle when Butler hit him in the back of the knees. O'Brien said he wasn't sure if Kiwanuka's injuries could keep him out of the game against Wake Forest.
"He's sore. I won't know that for a couple days," O'Brien said. "I'm going to wait to see Tuesday and see how he is."
O'Brien said his coaching staff is gathering game tape to send to league supervisor of officials Tommy Hunt. That won't take place until Monday at the earliest.
The BC coach said he wasn't angling for a punishment.
"I'm over it. I'm finished with it," he said. "What I need is interpreted is if that's the way we're going to play football."
"I don't want to prejudge what the ACC should do," O'Brien said a day after BC beat Virginia 28-17. "I just think it's a situation they need to look into."
Kiwanuka, the preseason conference defensive player of the year, and defensive lineman Al Washington will be allowed to play in Saturday's game against Wake Forest despite being ejected against Virginia, O'Brien said.
The score was 7-7 early in the third quarter when Virginia offensive lineman Brad Butler chop-blocked Kiwanuka after the whistle. Washington retaliated and was ejected; BC linebacker Brian Toal hit Butler one play later and drew a personal foul.
Virginia coach Al Groh said Sunday that he hadn't seen the play until about 24 hours after the game. He said he had spoken to Butler about the hit but declined to reveal to reporters what his player said.
"This was a very intense competition throughout the game, with two highly motivated players," Groh said. "This was just one of a number of plays in the game on either side in which maybe there was a little more exuberance than necessary. The thing has to be viewed ... relative to other incidents that did not get national television exposure."
Asked if the school would consider disciplinary action against Butler, Groh said: "There are a number of offices that have an interest in the circumstances with whom we've had conversations."
Kiwanuka was ejected in the fourth quarter for trying to exact his revenge.
"I was embarrassed with how we reacted," O'Brien said. "I thought we did a very poor job, and that reflects on me and everyone on this football team. We tried to escalate it, and we almost lost the football game because of it."
Toal's penalty put the Cavaliers on the BC 23 and Deyon Williams caught a 23-yard touchdown pass on the next play to make it 14-7. But the Eagles scored touchdowns on three of their next four possessions to take a 28-17 lead.
O'Brien said the hit, which was replayed on the stadium scoreboard, fired up an otherwise sedate crowd.
It also fired up his team.
"Yeah, it got us angry," BC quarterback Quinton Porter said after the game. "It's the last time anybody takes a cheap shot on us."
Kiwanuka, who was the Big East defensive player of the year last year, was already smarting from a sore ankle when Butler hit him in the back of the knees. O'Brien said he wasn't sure if Kiwanuka's injuries could keep him out of the game against Wake Forest.
"He's sore. I won't know that for a couple days," O'Brien said. "I'm going to wait to see Tuesday and see how he is."
O'Brien said his coaching staff is gathering game tape to send to league supervisor of officials Tommy Hunt. That won't take place until Monday at the earliest.
The BC coach said he wasn't angling for a punishment.
"I'm over it. I'm finished with it," he said. "What I need is interpreted is if that's the way we're going to play football."
So much to say about this one, but it comes down to this -- if the ACC doesn't suspend that kid then Al Groh should. And if Groh told him to do that, then we have another John Cheney scenerio, and this one might be worse. If that played out differently and Kiwi was seriously hurt that cheap shot would have cost him millions of dollars and potentially his career. The difference of being a top ten pick and damaged goods is tremendous.
Personally I think the kid should be done for the year, that kind of crap can not be tolerated.
Personally I think the kid should be done for the year, that kind of crap can not be tolerated.
Wow...terrible. Once again, legalized assault in the name of "an intense game".
Hope the league ups the suspension.
Hope the league ups the suspension.
BOSTON -- Boston College lineman Mathias Kiwanuka is "highly unlikely" to play against Wake Forest because of a right knee injury that may have happened when he was hit after the whistle against Virginia.
Kiwanuka said Wednesday he has a sprained or slightly torn medial collateral ligament in his right leg. He already had a sore ankle. No. 14 Boston College (5-1, 2-1 Atlantic Coast Conference) has a bye week after Saturday's game, then plays on Thursday, Oct. 27, against third-ranked Virginia Tech.
"I'm confident that I'll be back by Virginia Tech," said Kiwanuka, projected to be a possible first-round NFL draft pick. "I'm definitely going to push to be on the field. But there's no fighting with the head man. ... He obviously has the last say. I trust his judgment."
Coach Tom O'Brien said Kiwanuka was "very doubtful" and Jake Ottolini will take his place.
"Whenever [Kiwanuka] feels good, he's going to play," O'Brien said.
The Cavaliers suspended offensive lineman Brad Butler for one game this week for the chop-block that caught Kiwanuka in the back of the leg several seconds after the whistle in BC's 28-17 victory last week. Butler issued a statement saying he was not trying to hurt Kiwanuka.
"I was engaged in blocking him because he is the type of player who makes plays all over the field," the Virginia offensive lineman said. "I regret this event occurred and have put the incident behind me."
Kiwanuka had an MRI on Tuesday, and when they determined that the injury was likely a sprain he was cleared to begin rehab. He did not know if the injury was from the chop-block, but he said, "After the hit, it hurt a little more."
"I was shocked at how blatant it was," Kiwanuka said. "I had done nothing to him. ... I don't buy that he got overexcited."
Kiwanuka had heard that Butler tried to get in touch with him to apologize, but the two have not spoken. The BC star, who was the Big East defensive player of the year last year, said the one-game suspension did not satisfy him.
"There's nothing that could have satisfied me," he said. "Any apology would just be for media purposes. I will listen to the apology, but I'm not going to go out of my way to get in touch with him."
Eagles offensive lineman Jeremy Trueblood was also upset that Butler could miss the same amount of time as Kiwanuka.
"It's not fair at all," he said. "If you're not going to play by the rules, I don't think you should play."
The game was tied 7-all early in the third quarter when Butler chop-blocked Kiwanuka. BC lineman Al Washington retaliated and was ejected; BC linebacker Brian Toal hit Butler one play later and drew a personal foul.
Kiwanuka was ejected in the fourth quarter for trying to exact his revenge.
Toal's penalty put the Cavaliers on the BC 23 and Deyon Williams caught a 23-yard touchdown pass on the next play to make it 14-7. But the Eagles scored touchdowns on three of their next four possessions to take a 28-17 lead.
"On the sidelines, we were all going crazy. But we were trying to keep our composure at the same time," linebacker Ray Henderson said. "We're a family. It's just like if someone went after your little brother or little sister."
Also Wednesday, BC placekicker Ryan Ohliger was pulled off of the field goal squad after missing three tries against Virginia. O'Brien told walk-on Will Troost that he will do the placekicking; Ohliger, who was 6-for-11 on field goals and just 3-for-8 from 30 yards or longer, will continue to kick off.
"He was pretty positive about it," Troost said. "He obviously wants to play. He's just trying to get back to where he was."
Kiwanuka said Wednesday he has a sprained or slightly torn medial collateral ligament in his right leg. He already had a sore ankle. No. 14 Boston College (5-1, 2-1 Atlantic Coast Conference) has a bye week after Saturday's game, then plays on Thursday, Oct. 27, against third-ranked Virginia Tech.
"I'm confident that I'll be back by Virginia Tech," said Kiwanuka, projected to be a possible first-round NFL draft pick. "I'm definitely going to push to be on the field. But there's no fighting with the head man. ... He obviously has the last say. I trust his judgment."
Coach Tom O'Brien said Kiwanuka was "very doubtful" and Jake Ottolini will take his place.
"Whenever [Kiwanuka] feels good, he's going to play," O'Brien said.
The Cavaliers suspended offensive lineman Brad Butler for one game this week for the chop-block that caught Kiwanuka in the back of the leg several seconds after the whistle in BC's 28-17 victory last week. Butler issued a statement saying he was not trying to hurt Kiwanuka.
"I was engaged in blocking him because he is the type of player who makes plays all over the field," the Virginia offensive lineman said. "I regret this event occurred and have put the incident behind me."
Kiwanuka had an MRI on Tuesday, and when they determined that the injury was likely a sprain he was cleared to begin rehab. He did not know if the injury was from the chop-block, but he said, "After the hit, it hurt a little more."
"I was shocked at how blatant it was," Kiwanuka said. "I had done nothing to him. ... I don't buy that he got overexcited."
Kiwanuka had heard that Butler tried to get in touch with him to apologize, but the two have not spoken. The BC star, who was the Big East defensive player of the year last year, said the one-game suspension did not satisfy him.
"There's nothing that could have satisfied me," he said. "Any apology would just be for media purposes. I will listen to the apology, but I'm not going to go out of my way to get in touch with him."
Eagles offensive lineman Jeremy Trueblood was also upset that Butler could miss the same amount of time as Kiwanuka.
"It's not fair at all," he said. "If you're not going to play by the rules, I don't think you should play."
The game was tied 7-all early in the third quarter when Butler chop-blocked Kiwanuka. BC lineman Al Washington retaliated and was ejected; BC linebacker Brian Toal hit Butler one play later and drew a personal foul.
Kiwanuka was ejected in the fourth quarter for trying to exact his revenge.
Toal's penalty put the Cavaliers on the BC 23 and Deyon Williams caught a 23-yard touchdown pass on the next play to make it 14-7. But the Eagles scored touchdowns on three of their next four possessions to take a 28-17 lead.
"On the sidelines, we were all going crazy. But we were trying to keep our composure at the same time," linebacker Ray Henderson said. "We're a family. It's just like if someone went after your little brother or little sister."
Also Wednesday, BC placekicker Ryan Ohliger was pulled off of the field goal squad after missing three tries against Virginia. O'Brien told walk-on Will Troost that he will do the placekicking; Ohliger, who was 6-for-11 on field goals and just 3-for-8 from 30 yards or longer, will continue to kick off.
"He was pretty positive about it," Troost said. "He obviously wants to play. He's just trying to get back to where he was."
