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WhatsHisNuts

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REPUBLICANS ON CLIMATE CHANGE:

Climate Change is a hoax
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Climate Change is real, but humans aren't responsible
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Climate Change is real, humans may have contributed to it, but it's all overblown
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Climate Change is real, humans have contributed to it but as long as India and China are doing all the damage it makes no sense for us to do anything

The common thread: Republicans won't be doing a fucking thing.
 

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China India Russia need to do their part. Why would we hurt our economy by crippling fossil fuel industry with regulation, taxation and penalties when they aren?t ?
 

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China India Russia need to do their part. Why would we hurt our economy by crippling fossil fuel industry with regulation, taxation and penalties when they aren?t ?

We are the leaders of the world, that's why. We do the right thing because it's the right thing to do and we lead by example.
 

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We are the leaders of the world, that's why. We do the right thing because it's the right thing to do and we lead by example.

I am often told by progressives that we suck as a nation and Far behind many others. Glad to see that you recognize we are world leaders. And I don?t mind being at the head of the table for these changes,
?..believe me that I know that these changes are necessary, but no need to shoot our economy in the foot in the meantime. Wow and steady. Or at least until July 2032 when my investments are far less riskier positions than they are today and I?m on permanent vacation
 

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I am often told by progressives that we suck as a nation and Far behind many others. Glad to see that you recognize we are world leaders. And I don?t mind being at the head of the table for these changes,
?..believe me that I know that these changes are necessary, but no need to shoot our economy in the foot in the meantime. Wow and steady. Or at least until July 2032 when my investments are far less riskier positions than they are today and I?m on permanent vacation

Do you ever travel to Europe? If so, have you ever stopped and said "wow, that's pretty smart". They do a lot of really smart, cool stuff over there. I love this country but there's a lot of stuff we can learn from the Europeans.....and vice versa.
 

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Do you ever travel to Europe? If so, have you ever stopped and said "wow, that's pretty smart". They do a lot of really smart, cool stuff over there. I love this country but there's a lot of stuff we can learn from the Europeans.....and vice versa.

I am a dual citizen. Spain and the United States. I have a USA passport and EU passport from Spain. Most of my family lives in Spain. I have traveled all of Europe extensively with the exception of Norway, Sweden, Finland and a couple of eastern European countries. I have been to Spain over 25 times and most of my time in Europe outside of Spain has been spent in France, Italy, Germany, UK and Netherlands. In about 11 years, I will be spending July through October on the southern coast of Spain between Malaga and Marbella. There are things I like about Europe, just like there are things I like about South America, Mexico and Caribbean nations. I do not like the water conservation toilets, washing machines, or dishwashers even though I understand why those exist. I do not like social programs, the overregulation and high taxes(which pay for the social programs). I appreciate the slower pace of life. Not as much of a rat-race than here. Healthcare isn?t as bad as most conservatives would think, but surgery delays and specialist visits delays were common prior to covid.

Definitely pros and cons just like anywhere else, but I?m obviously good enough with the cons given that I plan on spending a third of my life there upon retirement.
 

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I am a dual citizen. Spain and the United States. I have a USA passport and EU passport from Spain. Most of my family lives in Spain. I have traveled all of Europe extensively with the exception of Norway, Sweden, Finland and a couple of eastern European countries. I have been to Spain over 25 times and most of my time in Europe outside of Spain has been spent in France, Italy, Germany, UK and Netherlands. In about 11 years, I will be spending July through October on the southern coast of Spain between Malaga and Marbella. There are things I like about Europe, just like there are things I like about South America, Mexico and Caribbean nations. I do not like the water conservation toilets, washing machines, or dishwashers even though I understand why those exist. I do not like social programs, the overregulation and high taxes(which pay for the social programs). I appreciate the slower pace of life. Not as much of a rat-race than here. Healthcare isn?t as bad as most conservatives would think, but surgery delays and specialist visits delays were common prior to covid.

Definitely pros and cons just like anywhere else, but I?m obviously good enough with the cons given that I plan on spending a third of my life there upon retirement.

I absolutely love their airports and mass transit systems. It boggles my mind that we can't strive to emulate a lot of what they have in that regard.

You're right about some of the water conservation type stuff. In Athens, and several other places, you can't flush TP because of the sewage systems.....hello bidet (call back)! There healthcare system gets this shitty wrap, but it's by people that haven't left their own state. Canadians and Euros often say the Americans don't know WTF they are talking about when they speak of the long lines, etc. Even so, I'll take long lines over going bankrupt, maybe that's just me.

Barcelona has to be one of the coolest places on the planet. Spain keeps coming up as one of the best places to retire abroad so it's been on our radar. If I had my way, I'd move there tomorrow.

Thanks for bringing some fresh air to this hell hole. The Fox News parrots and conspiracy theorists will soon be lumping you in with me.
 
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