does this administration ever stop with the complete shitt

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It's called twist the numbers. Then real facts come along. That's called twist the numbers.
 

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Heres another number there proud of. Bush in 3.5 years has added 2 million jobs.
Reagan in 8 years added 20 million.
Clinton in 8 years added over 20 million.
Of course folks will say Bush got a bad economy handed to him.
Well Reagan and Clinton did to.
 
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djv--how many of those jobs left when the tech bubble burst?
 

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How many of those jobs were $5 service sector jobs?

How many people were working 2-3 of those jobs just to keep their heads above water?
 

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this thread was started having actually nothing to do with jobs, and everything to do with honest total truthful facts about terrorism.
 

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Yes im sorry Shamrock. They are haveing Powell run around with some excuse for there bad math. They just have trouble these boys. They cant grow jobs. Dont matter what kind if you can't grow many. Mfg jobs have been hit the hardest and there some of the best.
And they work the words of twist to make it sound like there doing real good there.
Just like they cant get the numbers on terror right.
Just like they could not get the info on Iraq right.
Shamrock it's just shows a overall pattern they have.
They just seem to have number troubles. Or those folks working for them are just from a differant planet.
 

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any numbers on the incredible growth of the US service industry jobs? or are we not going to apply those stats to this discussion?
 

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I don't believe that the Tech Bubble Burst is Clinton's fault, but I also don't think that the Tech Bubble Job Boom is to be credited to him, either.

If you want one, you have to accept the other, but to use the fictitious job numbers from that time is just idiotic as an argument.
 

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considering 9-11 impact on economy and 2 wars in his administration I think things could be much worse.

I think interest rates have been the savior which I do not give Bush credit for as I see it as by product of the period much like tech boom.

I am just thankful economy is where it is considering events in past 4 years regardless of who was/is president.
 

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DTB it took us to 96 to pay of that deficit that was started in 86 thru 92. If anything Clinton did right was get that payed. And what that did for interest rates last 7 years has been a blessing. But with deficits back look out. I beleve with in 12 months interest will be back up 2%. Most here will say so what. Well that 2% is a nice little tax on all of us. It will be applied to anything you buy on credit. I suggest anyone with more then 5 years to pay off there house. And if you are on a float or a arm. Get a locked in home loan. If you didn't do this in last 6 months go do it tomorrow. Save your self some cash.
 

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Powell once again has to explain away this admins bullshit. As he's one of the few straighforward, candid, decent people in this admin, I really do feel sorry for him.



Powell: Terrorism Report a 'Big Mistake'

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WASHINGTON - A State Department report that incorrectly showed a decline last year in terrorism worldwide was a "big mistake," Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Sunday. "Very embarrassing. I am not a happy camper over this. We were wrong," the secretary told NBC's "Meet the Press."


Powell said he was working with the CIA (news - web sites), which helped to compile the data, to determine why the errors got into the report. He said he planned a meeting on the issue Monday and that the intelligence agency was working through the weekend in preparation.


"I'm not saying it is responsible until I sit down with all of the individuals who had something to do with this report: CIA, my department, members of my department, other agencies that contributed to it," Powell said.


"It's a numbers error. It's not a political judgment that said, `Let's see if we can cook the books.' We can't get away with that now. Nobody was out to cook the books. Errors crept in," he told ABC's "This Week."


He pledged to release a corrected report as quickly as possible.


"I am regretful that this has happened. And we're going to get it fixed, we're going to get it corrected, and that's the best I can do," Powell said.


A leading House Democrat, Rep. Henry Waxman of California, had challenged the findings, contending they were manipulated for political purposes. The conclusion that terrorism was on the decline was used to boost one of President Bush (news - web sites)'s chief foreign policy claims, success in countering terror.


Waxman asked Powell for an explanation and the secretary called last week to say the mistakes for unintentional.


"He says it wasn't politically motivated so I will accept that," Waxman said after their conversation. Still, the lawmaker said, "We are still left with the fact that this report is useless until it is corrected."


The April report said attacks had declined last year to 190, down from 198 in 2002 and 346 in 2001. The 2003 figure would have been the lowest level in 34 years and a 45 percent drop since 2001, Bush's first year as president.


The report also showed the virtual disappearance of attacks in which no one died.


"There's a new terrorist threat information center that compiles this data under the CIA. And we are still trying to determine what went wrong with the data and why we didn't catch it in the State Department," Powell said Sunday.


"It's a very big mistake. And we are not happy about this big mistake," he added.


The department has said that one of the mistakes was that only part of 2003 was taken into account.


When the annual report was issued April 29, senior administration officials used it as evidence the war was being won under Bush.


"We weren't saying terrorism has gone away. The report clearly says terrorism is a main problem facing the world today. We've got to continue going after terrorists," Powell said.


"But based on the data we had within the report, there was a suggestion that the number of incidents had dropped and it was the lowest since 1969," he added. "That turns out not to have been correct. We were wrong. We will correct it."
 

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There you go again, quoting another liberal tree lovin' sh!ts in his pants american hater like Colin Powell...LOL I'll bet all his ribbons and medals weren't deserved either. You should stick to the real news sites that love america you little pinko. (sarcasm font on.....hope you pick that up. It' sometimes difficult to pick up sarcasm in a printed media)
 
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auspice said:
Kosar

There you go again, quoting another liberal tree lovin' sh!t in his pants american hater like Colin Powell...LOL I'll bet all his ribbons and medals weren't deserved either. You should stick to the real news sites that love america you little pinko. (sarcasm font on.....hope you pick that up. It' sometimes difficult to pick up sarcasm in a printed media)

lol auspice-I saw it before you edited it and I knew you were being sarcastic. I don't think ctown picked up on that though.
 

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Say what you will about the economy with both Bushes, Ronnie and Clinton but real wage earning power has been falling consistently for what 30 or so years now???
 
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