Dolphins Knew Brady's Audibles?

[Senor Capper]

Dolphins Knew Brady's Audibles?
Posted Dec 12th 2006 2:34PM by Rustin Legendre
Filed under: Dolphins, AFC East

The Dolphins are thoroughly convinced that the Patriots stole Miami's defensive signals prior to New England's 23-16 victory in Miami last season.

Sunday, the Dolphins decided to get even.

The Dolphins actually purchased tapes with audio of the signals Tom Brady calls out at the line of scrimmage (where in the hell did they get that?) and knew what protection the Pats would play.

Then, the Dolphins brought pressure accordingly. They listened to Brady's calls during the game Sunday and knew where to blitz and what gaps to attack.

I thought Nick Saban and Bill Belichick were good friends. Sounds like it's a no-holds-barred relationship.

I guess all is fair in love and war.

My question is: Is this going to set a precedent in the NFL? Will there be an underground market for audio tapes of quarterbacks' line calls?

What ever happened to just blocking, tackling and beating the man in front of you?

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Borrowed from my friend Pepin46, surely he won't mind :kiss:

 

[dangerously]

Dolphins Knew Brady's Audibles?
Posted Dec 12th 2006 2:34PM by Rustin Legendre
Filed under: Dolphins, AFC East

The Dolphins are thoroughly convinced that the Patriots stole Miami's defensive signals prior to New England's 23-16 victory in Miami last season.

Sunday, the Dolphins decided to get even.

The Dolphins actually purchased tapes with audio of the signals Tom Brady calls out at the line of scrimmage (where in the hell did they get that?) and knew what protection the Pats would play.

Then, the Dolphins brought pressure accordingly. They listened to Brady's calls during the game Sunday and knew where to blitz and what gaps to attack.

I thought Nick Saban and Bill Belichick were good friends. Sounds like it's a no-holds-barred relationship.

I guess all is fair in love and war.

My question is: Is this going to set a precedent in the NFL? Will there be an underground market for audio tapes of quarterbacks' line calls?

What ever happened to just blocking, tackling and beating the man in front of you?

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Borrowed from my friend Pepin46, surely he won't mind :kiss:

I don't care what the sport if there is someway to beat the other guy,be it fair or not, someone will take advantage. OH except for Mr. niceguy, Tony Dungy, and you know how far that has gotten him. Cheat, cheat, cheat...Especially if there's money involved. There got to be more of this going on than we'll ever know about.

 

[Radio]

i think this article is right on. i have a friend that does some work with an asst. nfl coach. he told how bellichek will sign a player that has been cut from an early season opponent. get all the inside information from that player possible, then release the player not long after. i may have even read an article this year about some complaints about this type practice.

i was shocked at first, then i had the same thoughts. this much money, fiercely competitive people, your gonna get those who will do anything. a long way from the traditional good sportsmanship, maybe even unwritten ethical rules of years ago in most sports, thoses values we seem to be losing. it's a little disappointing to me. character building used to be something that sports instilled in young folks.
it is hard to believe that many atheletes used to be really good role models for youth.

 

[kneifl]

Good info and an interesting read Lanny.

Good luck on your plays the rest of the season bud.

kneifl

 

[ELVIS]

i wonder if anyone would steal aaron brooks' audibles..............................:mj07:


are u kidding me, :142smilie

 

[StevieD]

Wow:scared
I was wondering what was wrong. Miami had so many guys going in untouched! And here I was thinking that Matt Light just sucks.

 

[JCDunkDogs]

bellichek will sign a player that has been cut from an early season opponent. get all the inside information from that player possible, then release the player not long after.

If its true, that will work for a while, until his reputation catches up with him.

I don't see what all the controversy is about. After all, it is a copy-cat league to begin with.

 

[THE HITMAN]

Maybe that will make up for some of the Mark Henderson/Patriotsvs. Dolphins snow plow incident of some 20 yrs ago. Now, if you want to talk about cheating, talk about that.

 

[IE]

Audio of Brady overstated, players and coaches say


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- Turns out all that talk about the Dolphins deciphering the signals Tom Brady was barking out was a lot of noise about not very much.

Except, perhaps, for a bit of humor.




The tale began unfolding Monday when two unidentified Miami players reportedly said that before their 21-0 win over the Patriots last Sunday, the Dolphins "bought" recordings that included audio of Brady calling signals in previous games.

"I'm a little late today because I was watching TV tape," Dolphins coach Nick Saban said with a grin as he began his news conference Wednesday in Miami.

Even the usually somber Bill Belichick turned comedic when asked if there's any other source of game audio than a television broadcast.

"Satellite," the Patriots coach said to laughter at his own news conference. "Technology, that's not really my thing. I can barely turn the computer on and off."

The usually diplomatic Brady showed a feisty side when he shot down the notion the Dolphins somehow had a huge advantage because they found a new way to figure out what "hut-1, hut-2" means.

"I would love to see evidence of that," the Patriots quarterback said three days after he threw for 78 yards, was sacked four times and was hurried many more. "They can say that, but I think that is a big crock of you know what."

The Palm Beach Post on Monday quoted the unnamed players saying the team "bought" tapes that included audio, but Saban indicated they may have been confused and said the team used past telecasts.

"It probably sounds good for them to say that they have it all figured out," Brady said, "but, you know, they're 6-7 and we're 9-4, so you tell me who's got it more figured out."

Lately, that would be the Dolphins.

They're 5-1 in their last six games, while the Patriots are 3-3 and nearly lost to Detroit, which is tied with Oakland for the worst record in the NFL at 2-11.

New England committed 11 turnovers and 23 penalties in the last three games.

So maybe it's the Patriots who should keep their ears open.

"This team has to listen more to what the coach says," Brady said. "If we listen more and we did more of what our coaches told us to do, I think we'd be a lot better off. But at times I think we figure we can do it our way, and we show that there is quite a bit of inconsistency to that."

That, more than anything the Dolphins might have heard from Brady's mouth, contributed to the Patriots' collapse.

"Our audibles, they're not going to get anything from a copy of a TV game," said Patriots fullback Heath Evans, who started last season with Miami. "They beat us hands down. They just punched us in the face and made us like it."

Saban, a close friend of Belichick, was equally blunt about the idea the Dolphins did anything not done regularly throughout the NFL: "This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life."

He said his players told him that trying to pick up a quarterback's cadence from television recordings has been done for a long time -- even in Cleveland, where he was Belichick's defensive coordinator from 1991 through 1994.

"Everybody's thinking that the only way we can beat the New England Patriots is if we steal their signals," Miami linebacker Zach Thomas said. "There were no bought tapes. Why do you have to buy tapes in this league?"

Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor had six tackles, a sack and a forced fumble. The sounds that mattered to him were Patriots hitting the ground.

"You can turn on your TV or your TiVo and hear a snap count," he said.

All teams search for an extra edge, but Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel said a player can hear better on the field during the game than from a recording.

"You watch the games on high-def and you can hear certain things," he said. "Now, could I put a whole game plan together? No, but we try to use whatever we can to help us out."

Sometimes, though, even knowing when the ball will be snapped doesn't help, especially after a player was penalized for jumping offside the previous week.

"The offside penalty in the Detroit game kind of had me cautious," Patriots defensive end Ty Warren said. "I was kind of in the mind-set that I'd rather be a second late than a second ahead."

 

[Man of Troy]

I had heard (on PTI I believe) that they watched a regular telecast of the game which happened to contain audio. Whether this is true or not I don't know. The fact that Belichik has said it's a non-issue makes me think that this is more hype than anything. However, if it is true that he stole Miami's defensive signals and signs players who were recently cut to acquire information then perhaps he doesn't want to add any fuel to a fire which could end up burning him and tainting the Pats dynasty (if you will). I'm not calling anyone a liar on this board by any means, but I personally think that if Belichik signed and cut players numerous times just to acquire information, one of the players would go to the media, write a book, some garbage like that to make a buck or out of pure spite. A book on the sheisty underground and "cheating" in the NFL would make a lot of money ("Juiced-Jose Canseco). I think if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. (With the exceptions of steroids, I would love to see them removed completely from sports) Pitchers and catchers need to mix up their signs with a runner on second, third base coaches fly through complex signals to prevent getting picked by the other team. Maybe next time the Pats play Miami they will adjust and have alternate sets of both audible and hand-motion play calling to prevent getting smashed on 21-0.

 

[StevieD]

The usually diplomatic Brady showed a feisty side when he shot down the notion the Dolphins somehow had a huge advantage because they found a new way to figure out what "hut-1, hut-2" means.

"I would love to see evidence of that," the Patriots quarterback said three days after he threw for 78 yards, was sacked four times and was hurried many more. "They can say that, but I think that is a big crock of you know what."

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Dolphins say they knew he was going to say that.:SIB

 

[Senor Capper]

LOL

Whatever happened. Happened.
Cover up or whatever I still lost & I'm not a Patriot fan anywho