Any thoughts ? No sponge, I'm not calling for his head because he is a racist, I don't think he is and I support him 1000%. If anyone has a response, would you please include how many hours you listen to his show.
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It was a ****ing joke. Are we all so ****ing sensitive? I cant stand Imus but he should have told them all to go to hell. Its a sad day when people think Al Sharpton is some sort of saint.
To think that all these black leaders are so upset because of a joke. Have they heard any rap lyrics? This is a sickening disgrace. In Boston we have a black on black murder just about everyday. Where are the black leaders who fake outrage about a bad joke yet remain silent on the deaths taking place everyday. They should be ashamed of themselves.
I never listen to him, for a point of reference.
It's a matter of judgment for his bosses, in my opinion. I think it's fine for people of color who were offended by it - I assume I certainly would have been - to express their feelings. As with anything with Sharpton, Jackson and some other self-proclaimed "leaders" of the black "community," they will certainly play it up for effect and personal gain.
I think his statements - I did listen to them a few times on various programs yesterday - did cross the line of racism. There are ways to express his point (you can determine if it was a worthwhile pursuit of a point or not) without using some of the most vulgar words possible, and it was like he was searching for those words during the bit. And it's not the first time he and people on his show have engaged in borderline (or actual) racist bits.
Again, I think it's up to the people in charge of and responsible for the radio program, to make a decision about this. Just because you are some kind of "shock jock", it doesn't allow you to say whatever you want without the possibility of reproach.
It's a matter of judgment for his bosses, in my opinion. I think it's fine for people of color who were offended by it - I assume I certainly would have been - to express their feelings. As with anything with Sharpton, Jackson and some other self-proclaimed "leaders" of the black "community," they will certainly play it up for effect and personal gain.
I think his statements - I did listen to them a few times on various programs yesterday - did cross the line of racism. There are ways to express his point (you can determine if it was a worthwhile pursuit of a point or not) without using some of the most vulgar words possible, and it was like he was searching for those words during the bit. And it's not the first time he and people on his show have engaged in borderline (or actual) racist bits.
Again, I think it's up to the people in charge of and responsible for the radio program, to make a decision about this. Just because you are some kind of "shock jock", it doesn't allow you to say whatever you want without the possibility of reproach.
In his position of power and influence, he knew full well the risk and consequence of taking a cheap shot.
He just believed he was invincible.
It's not about Sharpton or any other black leader.
It's about a very powerful media personality and what he said.
With a two week suspension as a warning, he may think twice before doing this again.
He has a lot at stake.
He just believed he was invincible.
It's not about Sharpton or any other black leader.
It's about a very powerful media personality and what he said.
With a two week suspension as a warning, he may think twice before doing this again.
He has a lot at stake.
I disagree. It most certainly is about Sharpton and Jackson and every other phony, black, so called leade,r who has sold out his people for a buck. If these people are so upset that some young women where called nappy haired hoes then they should should listen to some rap lyrics and comment on them. If they didn't constantly refer to their woman as hoes and bitches then maybe other people wouldn't. With all the problems in the black community I think that this would have to rank way down low.
Imo, even mentioning Sharpton or any other black personality is changing the focus of what was said and done. I can't stand Sharpton or any of the others. They live for the limelight without doing anything productive. But Imus lives and loves to push the envelope. His defiance is fierce. I could have sworn I heard him say, "I'm the decider."
A little humble pie never hurt anyone.
A little humble pie never hurt anyone.
there must be hope for me because i agree 100% with my pal stevie.
i used to be a big imus fan & had listened to him since 1971 (?) when he hit the ny airways (he started out in cleveland). i have watched his show on msnbc (not on radio here) since moving to the valley.
imus is what he is....the father of shock jock. you know what your getting when you hire or listen to him. he has been making jokes about blacks, jews, muslims, & gays for many years. now all of a sudden people are in hysterics.however,the incident that bothered me the most with his humor was when he mc'd the dinner a few years back for clinton when he was president. i thought he was too disreapectful towards the president.
as far as sharpton or jackson go i have no respect for them of any kind. they rank up there, in my mind with falwell & roberts for being more harmful than good. and before any of these men ridicule anybody for what they had said, they should take an honest look at themselves in the mirror.
and this rutgers press conference?....who do they trot out first as the team`s "point person" after that sanctimonious speech from that unbearable coach?......
one of the 2 white girls...nice thinking...
the imus` of the world woiuld say,"what`s the problem?...can`t the black girls speak for themselves"....
what a circus....
first off,jesse jackson and sharpton are the 2 biggest black racists in american society...this side of farrakhan....and mabe,the 2 biggest hypocrites...
secondly...this isn`t the first f.ck up for imus...maybe it`s time to put this human husk out to pasture...
how old is this clown?....he looks like the queen of england...
he deserves to have his career ruined...you liberals foisted this politically correct,thought controlling society on the rest of us...
so,if the al campanis` and the jimmy the greek`s of the world are ruined for much less offensive statements...then imus must go.....
sorry bryanz..
one of the 2 white girls...nice thinking...
the imus` of the world woiuld say,"what`s the problem?...can`t the black girls speak for themselves"....
what a circus....
first off,jesse jackson and sharpton are the 2 biggest black racists in american society...this side of farrakhan....and mabe,the 2 biggest hypocrites...
secondly...this isn`t the first f.ck up for imus...maybe it`s time to put this human husk out to pasture...
how old is this clown?....he looks like the queen of england...
he deserves to have his career ruined...you liberals foisted this politically correct,thought controlling society on the rest of us...
so,if the al campanis` and the jimmy the greek`s of the world are ruined for much less offensive statements...then imus must go.....
sorry bryanz..
Any type of gagging of an individual always rubs me the wrong way but then again words tend to move people. Blatant lies is what bothers me the most(FOX News)
I think the word whore is the big issue here. We all know they were not whores but that lumped in with the other words makes this the type of stuff that aggravates people. I have heard a lot worse than this from his show. I usually catch his show for the run up to that little piece of ass Amy Robach on Msnbc. I don't even know who watches this show to see what Imus says. Its more what Bernard says. Kinda like the Sterns show. It was Artie i use to listen to, and not Howard. What is really gonna be interesting is how our phony politicians handle this. They will run like the phony people they are. This is a big part of his show.
For all the Jesse haters i wonder if a kid of yours was held hostage somewhere and he offered to help you get him back, would you turn this offer down?
Typical of Weasel to turn this into a blame situation for democrats creating the problem...but to address your comment, if it makes me politically correct to think it inappropriate to call a group of black college women "Nappy-Headed Ho's," then I'm guilty as charged. Not only is it inappropriate, it's not even funny.
Another view:
Inside the Beltway, By John McCaslin, Washington Post
April 10, 2007
Spreading sickness
Until radio host Don Imus opened his big mouth, the biggest news on the Rutgers University campus last week was when Gwen Ifill, moderator and managing editor of PBS' "Washington Week," postponed her visiting lecture because of laryngitis.
Now, Mr. Imus is wishing he'd had laryngitis, too.
He spoke all too loud and clear, and as a result he now stands to lose his popular radio and TV show after uttering a racially derogatory remark about the Rutgers women's basketball team.
NCAA President Myles Brand and Rutgers University President Richard L. McCormick issued a joint statement saying it "is unconscionable that anyone would use the airways to utter such disregard for the dignity of human beings who have accomplished much and deserve great credit."
Meanwhile, in a telephone interview yesterday, former CBS newsman and author Bernard Goldberg told Inside the Beltway he writes about Mr. Imus' racial ignorance and pandering in his forthcoming book, due out next week, "Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right."
Besides calling the radio host a "weenie," Mr. Goldberg says, like many other white men Mr. Imus thinks that by saying "absurd" things about race he's showing racial sensitivity and manners.
"Three quick observations," Mr. Goldberg told us. "One, it was an immensely stupid comment about, of all things, my alma mater's women's basketball team. Two, his groveling today for hours and hours was way beyond pathetic -- schoolgirls in the third grade have more courage than he does.
"Third, and most interesting, as dumb as his comment was, it's not nearly as dumb as the comment he made in January 2006 while interviewing basketball legend Charles Barkley, when Imus said he didn't think much has changed in America since the 'Selma March' in 1965.
"That is far dumber and far more harmful. It shows the typical liberal reaction and paternalism when it comes to race. Here everything has changed, and he said nothing has changed. We're no longer siccing dogs on blacks; we're not water-hosing them; blacks are being elected mayors and police chiefs throughout the South -- in small towns and big cities everywhere. And he said nothing has changed?"
In a separate interview yesterday, Washington Democratic strategist Brent Budowsky, a former aide to the now-deceased Sen. Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, told Inside the Beltway of Mr. Imus' remark: "It's hard to find words how sick it was."
In a column posted earlier on the HiIl's "Pundit Blog," Mr. Budowsky opined there's "too much hatred, derision, disrespect, smearing, slander, polarization, division and bigotry that has infected American politics and American media ... ."
"We can't keep having these endless cycles of sickness in the major media, followed by the contrite apology, followed by business as usual, followed by the next example, which follows the same pattern."
As for Miss Ifill, who is black and who moderated the 2004 vice presidential debate between Vice President Dick Cheney and Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, she has rescheduled her Rutgers lecture, her producer told us yesterday. Last week's topic, now subject to change: "Politics, Policy and Reality: What's Really Going on in Washington."
Oh, and did we mention that Mr. Imus once referred to Miss Ifill as a "cleaning lady"?
Another view:
Inside the Beltway, By John McCaslin, Washington Post
April 10, 2007
Spreading sickness
Until radio host Don Imus opened his big mouth, the biggest news on the Rutgers University campus last week was when Gwen Ifill, moderator and managing editor of PBS' "Washington Week," postponed her visiting lecture because of laryngitis.
Now, Mr. Imus is wishing he'd had laryngitis, too.
He spoke all too loud and clear, and as a result he now stands to lose his popular radio and TV show after uttering a racially derogatory remark about the Rutgers women's basketball team.
NCAA President Myles Brand and Rutgers University President Richard L. McCormick issued a joint statement saying it "is unconscionable that anyone would use the airways to utter such disregard for the dignity of human beings who have accomplished much and deserve great credit."
Meanwhile, in a telephone interview yesterday, former CBS newsman and author Bernard Goldberg told Inside the Beltway he writes about Mr. Imus' racial ignorance and pandering in his forthcoming book, due out next week, "Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right."
Besides calling the radio host a "weenie," Mr. Goldberg says, like many other white men Mr. Imus thinks that by saying "absurd" things about race he's showing racial sensitivity and manners.
"Three quick observations," Mr. Goldberg told us. "One, it was an immensely stupid comment about, of all things, my alma mater's women's basketball team. Two, his groveling today for hours and hours was way beyond pathetic -- schoolgirls in the third grade have more courage than he does.
"Third, and most interesting, as dumb as his comment was, it's not nearly as dumb as the comment he made in January 2006 while interviewing basketball legend Charles Barkley, when Imus said he didn't think much has changed in America since the 'Selma March' in 1965.
"That is far dumber and far more harmful. It shows the typical liberal reaction and paternalism when it comes to race. Here everything has changed, and he said nothing has changed. We're no longer siccing dogs on blacks; we're not water-hosing them; blacks are being elected mayors and police chiefs throughout the South -- in small towns and big cities everywhere. And he said nothing has changed?"
In a separate interview yesterday, Washington Democratic strategist Brent Budowsky, a former aide to the now-deceased Sen. Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, told Inside the Beltway of Mr. Imus' remark: "It's hard to find words how sick it was."
In a column posted earlier on the HiIl's "Pundit Blog," Mr. Budowsky opined there's "too much hatred, derision, disrespect, smearing, slander, polarization, division and bigotry that has infected American politics and American media ... ."
"We can't keep having these endless cycles of sickness in the major media, followed by the contrite apology, followed by business as usual, followed by the next example, which follows the same pattern."
As for Miss Ifill, who is black and who moderated the 2004 vice presidential debate between Vice President Dick Cheney and Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, she has rescheduled her Rutgers lecture, her producer told us yesterday. Last week's topic, now subject to change: "Politics, Policy and Reality: What's Really Going on in Washington."
Oh, and did we mention that Mr. Imus once referred to Miss Ifill as a "cleaning lady"?
Sponge, why doesn't Jesse take on the black comedians and the rappers if he is so offended by the language that Imus used?
I watch his show early morning when I am getting ready for work and he says a lot of things I don't like.
I would like to see someone call out all these blacks who are so offended by language that they call out the black comedians and rappers and get themselves involved in the black communities and address black on black violence.
See what happens when you pick on women's basketball? A shock jock can get away with almost anything. Almost.
I have not seen the press conference, so can't refer to your specifics here. In the slide show online, it shows one white player speaking and six black players speaking on the issue (which you left out of your comments). I heard someone reference the team captain and quoting from her...maybe since the white girl was trotted out first, as you say, then she might have been the team captain? I don't know, just wondering.
It is unfortunate that these girls have to put up with this BS at a time they should be enjoying themselves and their accomplishment. I hardly think it's a scenario they enjoy being a part of.
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Here's my opinion as a female.
I find it funny (but am not surprised) that it has only been addressed as a racial issue. Any woman that heard that should have been offended, or at least disgusted. I completely don't believe in being PC, however, this was just unnecessary. We all know women basketball players are not particularly attractive. And to call them whores? They're probably mostly lesbians, anyway, so that doesn't even make sense. To just make completely rude comments for no reason was just unnecessary. Now, if he'd made those comments about a female rapper, or someone of that ilk - it wouldn't have been as irritating. These are 18-21 year old women who have achieved a lot and it was completely disrespectful. Maybe it'd be different if we had people pointing out how damn ugly and thuggish most of the guys in the NBA are, or frequently commenting on their looks. You never hear that, though. Do I think he should lose his job? No. Do I think he should be kissing the ubiquitous "black leaders' " asses? No. I just think the disrespect was on a gender basis as much as it was a racial one.
I find it funny (but am not surprised) that it has only been addressed as a racial issue. Any woman that heard that should have been offended, or at least disgusted. I completely don't believe in being PC, however, this was just unnecessary. We all know women basketball players are not particularly attractive. And to call them whores? They're probably mostly lesbians, anyway, so that doesn't even make sense. To just make completely rude comments for no reason was just unnecessary. Now, if he'd made those comments about a female rapper, or someone of that ilk - it wouldn't have been as irritating. These are 18-21 year old women who have achieved a lot and it was completely disrespectful. Maybe it'd be different if we had people pointing out how damn ugly and thuggish most of the guys in the NBA are, or frequently commenting on their looks. You never hear that, though. Do I think he should lose his job? No. Do I think he should be kissing the ubiquitous "black leaders' " asses? No. I just think the disrespect was on a gender basis as much as it was a racial one.
A couple of comments (again, sorry). Kelly, I have heard MANY comments made on radio and tv shows talking that very talk about male NBA players being thuggish, and have seen comments about appearance. ESPECIALLY NBA players, but have also recently heard more of that about NFL players. Male college players, too, from the U of Miami, etc.
I personally think this is much more of a racism thing than a female one. He talked about the "Nappy Headed Hos" and how rough they looked, while at the same time talking about the "cute" players from Tennessee. I can remember a lot of commentary and postings on Rebecca Lobo, who was a well-known white women's player from U Conn, and referenced as being a "horse face", etc.
Weasel, I don't think the white player speaking WAS the captain, after hearing more reports, but my point stands on the number comparison and your point.
As for the rapper/lyrics thing...both Jackson and Sharpton have come out against those types of lyrics and the thug lifestyle. I will not defend those two, as I have very little respect for them overall, but they have taken a stand on this issue in the past.
I personally think this is much more of a racism thing than a female one. He talked about the "Nappy Headed Hos" and how rough they looked, while at the same time talking about the "cute" players from Tennessee. I can remember a lot of commentary and postings on Rebecca Lobo, who was a well-known white women's player from U Conn, and referenced as being a "horse face", etc.
Weasel, I don't think the white player speaking WAS the captain, after hearing more reports, but my point stands on the number comparison and your point.
As for the rapper/lyrics thing...both Jackson and Sharpton have come out against those types of lyrics and the thug lifestyle. I will not defend those two, as I have very little respect for them overall, but they have taken a stand on this issue in the past.
Stevie trust me i know Jesse has an agenda but honestly what is the differance of him trying to take care of his people and Bush taken care of what he calls his base (the rich)? I guess black people will always think its okay if they insult another black person and its a no no for a white. When Kramer said what he did i heard a lot of blacks saying it was time for them also to stop using the N word. I just saw a comedy show with P Diddy or whatever this no talent guys name is. It didn't take long for the first black comedian to use the N Word.
I will tell you what truly amazes me is one time I saw a special on HBO with a hidden camera and Sharpton look like he was taken a bribe on some kind of drug deal. I can't remember it that well. I think Don King was involved. After seeing that it amazes me he still has a voice in this country. If im Imus i would have shut him right up mentioning this to him.
