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A big F-U to Obamacare, Hopefully more and more states will rise up against this administration and their Communist policies
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Perry raises possibility of states' rights showdown with White House over healthcare

AUSTIN ? Gov. Rick Perry, raising the specter of a showdown with the Obama administration, suggested Thursday that he would consider invoking states? rights protections under the 10th Amendment to resist the president?s healthcare plan, which he said would be "disastrous" for Texas.

Interviewed by conservative talk show host Mark Davis of Dallas? WBAP/820 AM, Perry said his first hope is that Congress will defeat the plan, which both Perry and Davis described as "Obama Care." But should it pass, Perry predicted that Texas and a "number" of states might resist the federal health mandate.

"I think you?ll hear states and governors standing up and saying 'no? to this type of encroachment on the states with their healthcare," Perry said. "So my hope is that we never have to have that stand-up. But I?m certainly willing and ready for the fight if this administration continues to try to force their very expansive government philosophy down our collective throats."

Perry, the state?s longest-serving governor, has made defiance of Washington a hallmark of his state administration as well as his emerging re-election campaign against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in the 2010 Republican primary. Earlier this year, Perry refused $555 million in federal unemployment stimulus money, saying it would subject Texas to long-term costs after the federal dollars ended.

Interviewed after returning from a trip to Iraq and Afghanistan, Perry spoke out against President Barack Obama?s healthcare package less than 24 hours after the president used a prime-time news conference Wednesday night to try to sell the massive legislative package to Congress and the public.

'Not the solution?

"It really is a state issue, and if there was ever an argument for the 10th Amendment and for letting the states find a solution to their problems, this may be at the top of the class," Perry said. "A government-run healthcare system is financially unstable. It?s not the solution."

Perry heartily backed an unsuccessful resolution in this year?s legislative session that would have affirmed the belief that Texas has sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

In expressing "unwavering support" for the 10th Amendment resolution by state Rep. Brandon Creighton, R-Conroe, Perry said "federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens and its interference with the affairs of our state."

Returning to the "letter and spirit" of the 10th Amendment, he said in April, "will free our state from undue regulations and ultimately strengthen our union."

Perry, in his on-air interview Thursday with Davis, did not specify how he might use the 10th Amendment in opposing the Obama health plan. His spokeswoman, Allison Castle, said that the governor?s first goal is to defeat the plan in Congress and that any discussion of options beyond that would be "hypothetical."

"I don?t think it?s surprising that the governor is taking a stand against it," said Anne Dunkelberg, associate director of the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based research organization that supports the House version of Obama?s plan. "Unfortunately, the national dialogue on health reform has been extraordinarily partisan and polarized."

The White House Media Affairs Office, asked to comment on Perry?s statements, did not have an immediate response. In his remarks to the nation Wednesday, Obama restated his midsummer deadline for passage of the bill in Congress, saying it is urgently needed to help families "that are being clobbered by healthcare costs."

High stakes in Texas

Texas has a higher percentage of uninsured people than any other state, with 1 in 4 Texans lacking health coverage. Dunkelberg, whose organization supports policies to help low- and modest-income Texans, said the House version would create a "predictable and comprehensive benefits package" for thousands of struggling middle-income Texans.

Former Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth of Burleson, a senior fellow for healthcare at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation, echoed Perry?s assertion that the Obama plan is the wrong approach and could have disastrous financial consequences for Texas.

Under the Senate version of the bill, she said, an expansion of the joint federal-state Medicaid program for the poor could cost Texas $4 billion a year.

"There are good solutions" to the country?s healthcare problems, Wohlgemuth said. "This isn?t it."

Perry said the plan is another example of the Obama administration?s "massive takeover of the private-sector economy."

"I hope our leaders will look for solutions that don?t dig our country further into debt," he said.

Perry called on Texans in the House and Senate to oppose the plan. "I can?t imagine that anyone from Texas who cares about this state would vote for Obama Care. I don?t care whether you?re Democrat or Republican," he said.

Of those Texans who might consider supporting the plan, he said: "This may sound a little bit harsh, but they might ought to consider representing some other state because they?re sure not representing Texas."
 

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Why don't you guys secede from the usa then?

Nothing more patriotic than acting like a bitch and going against the president.

If anyone did something like this during the bush administration you would have gone ape shit nuts.

Perry is just doing all this shit because he knows he has no chance at being elected again.
 

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Perry off to secret forum in Turkey

Perry off to secret forum in Turkey

Perry off to secret forum in Turkey

He'll speak about federalism at elite global conference


12:00 AM CDT on Thursday, May 31, 2007
By CHRISTY HOPPE / The Dallas Morning News
choppe@dallasnews.com
AUSTIN ? Gov. Rick Perry is flying to Istanbul, Turkey, today to speak at the super-secret Bilderberg Conference, a meeting of about 130 international leaders in business, media and politics.

The invitation-only conference was started in 1954 and named for the Dutch hotel where the conference was first held. Those who attend promise not to reveal what was discussed, security is tight, and the press and public are barred.

The conference has been the subject of conspiracy theorists and even Christian groups who wonder about its influence.

Robert Black, the governor's press secretary, said the governor was invited to attend and speak about state-federal relations. Mr. Black dismissed the conspiracy theories.

"He's looking forward to learning the secret handshake," Mr. Black joked.

He said that Mr. Perry is paying for the trip and host hotel, usually among the top in the world, out of campaign contributions from his Texans for Rick Perry committee.

Previous speakers at the conference have included such GOP stalwarts as outgoing World Bank chief Paul Wolfowitz and former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Last year, the conference was held in Ottawa, and the Toronto Star reported that it had received an unsigned press release saying that the 2006 group included David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of Holland, New York Gov. George Pataki, media moguls, high-level officials from Spain and Greece, and the heads of Coca-Cola, Credit Suisse and the Royal Bank of Canada.

Bilderberg chairman Etienne Davignon, a former Belgian diplomat, granted the British Broadcasting Corp. a rare interview two years ago in which he brushed aside myths surrounding the organization.

"When people say this is a secret government of the world, I say that if we were a secret government of the world, we should be bloody ashamed of ourselves," Mr. Davignon said.

Mr. Black said that the governor was going because he was invited. "He looks forward to talking to them about the system of federalism here in the United States," he said.

Regarding the secrecy surrounding the event, Mr. Black said: "It's their conference, and I suppose they can run it anyway they want. The governor was honored that they would ask him to come speak on the American experience, and he's happy to do it."

Mr. Perry returns to Texas on Monday.
 

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Rick Perry's Bilderberg Visit Violation Of Logan Act?

Rick Perry's Bilderberg Visit Violation Of Logan Act?

Rick Perry's Bilderberg Visit Violation Of Logan Act?
Texas Governor's visit to ultra secret elitist group could be criminal, press secretary refuses to comment

Texas Governor Rick Perry is amongst the attendees at this year's secretive Bilderberg Group meeting in Istanbul Turkey, but his visit could be a violation of the Logan Act, a 1799 law that criminalizes unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

"Gov. Rick Perry is flying to Istanbul, Turkey, today to speak at the super-secret Bilderberg Conference, a meeting of about 130 international leaders in business, media and politics," reports the Dallas Morning News.
"Robert Black, the governor's press secretary, said the governor was invited to attend and speak about state-federal relations. Mr. Black dismissed the conspiracy theories."

"He's looking forward to learning the secret handshake," Mr. Black joked."
Sophomoric joking aside, Perry's attendance at a behind closed doors, and armed guards, meeting, in which the content of what is discussed will remain totally secret is a potential violation of the Logan Act.
 

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Why don't you guys secede from the usa then?

Nothing more patriotic than acting like a bitch and going against the president.

If anyone did something like this during the bush administration you would have gone ape shit nuts.

Perry is just doing all this shit because he knows he has no chance at being elected again.

Shawn, I wish we would succeed.
 

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5,550 a week in Texas lose health care coverage

5,550 a week in Texas lose health care coverage

Gov. Rick Perry is failing his people. He's throwing Texans on the wayside to look good. I bet he has good health care.

Date: July 15, 2009

5,550 Texans Are Losing Their Health Coverage Every Week, as the Steady Rise of Health Care Costs Drives More and More Working Families out of the Market

These Texans Are Part of a National Trend that Will Cost an Average of 2.3 Million Americans Their Health Coverage Each Year between 2008 and 2010

Washington, D.C.?Rising like a deadly tide, escalating health care costs will cause 866,580 Texans to lose their health coverage between January 2008 and December 2010. In that same period, the number of Americans without health coverage is expected to climb by an estimated 6.9 million.

These troubling statistics are cited in a new report, ?The Clock Is Ticking: More Americans Losing Health Coverage,? from the consumer health organization Families USA, which says the most important factor causing the loss of health coverage is the rising cost of health care premiums. Although the economic downturn is contributing to the problem, it is skyrocketing premiums?up 119 percent from 1999 to 2008?that continue to have the greatest impact on family and employer health care costs. In comparison, the Consumer Price Index, which tracks general inflation, rose by only 29.2 percent in the same period.

The report is the first-ever state-by-state projection of the number of people who will lose coverage between January 2008?the period immediately following the last Census Bureau report?and the end of the 111th Congress in December 2010. The report says, for Texas during that time period, an estimated 866,580 people will lose their health coverage. From 2008 through 2010 in Texas:

? 5,550 people will lose their health coverage, on average, every week;
? 24,070 people will lose their health coverage, on average, every month; and
? 288,860 people will lose their health coverage every year.

http://www.familiesusa.org/resource...ss-releases/5550-texans-are-losing-their.html
 

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"5,550 Texans Are Losing Their Health Coverage Every Week, as the Steady Rise of Health Care Costs Drives More and More Working Families out of the Market"

I dion't give a shit what you say about spw, if this is true then I would like some spin. I have no idea if it is, however, if it is....then we need something other than what Obama is proposing, but something. It really has gotten out of control.

(dtb, we provide full health care for all employees, so don't give me your bullshit da base health care nonsense)

If O'Bama was a real citizen none of this shit would be happening. And that is the bottom line.

TYIA. JMHO. TYIAA.
 

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Your stats on Texas are accurate per your source. However, those figures, when looked at in whole, seem to fall along lines of total population. The numbers for the Dakotas and Wyoming, etc, are under 100. Of course that doesn't make it a good thing but Texas is no worse than other states with similar population.
 

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get a fucking job that has benefits, problem solved:shrug: I am sick and tired of lazy asses thinking they should get a free ride and free insurance. go to work
 

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get a fucking job that has benefits, problem solved:shrug: I am sick and tired of lazy asses thinking they should get a free ride and free insurance. go to work

Why all the anger?

If this place sucks so bad move out of the country.

Love it or leave it.

And you downright hate it so :sadwave:

You will not be missed.
 

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Gov. Rick Perry is failing his people. He's throwing Texans on the wayside to look good. I bet he has good health care.

Date: July 15, 2009

5,550 Texans Are Losing Their Health Coverage Every Week, as the Steady Rise of Health Care Costs Drives More and More Working Families out of the Market

These Texans Are Part of a National Trend that Will Cost an Average of 2.3 Million Americans Their Health Coverage Each Year between 2008 and 2010

Washington, D.C.?Rising like a deadly tide, escalating health care costs will cause 866,580 Texans to lose their health coverage between January 2008 and December 2010. In that same period, the number of Americans without health coverage is expected to climb by an estimated 6.9 million.

These troubling statistics are cited in a new report, ?The Clock Is Ticking: More Americans Losing Health Coverage,? from the consumer health organization Families USA, which says the most important factor causing the loss of health coverage is the rising cost of health care premiums. Although the economic downturn is contributing to the problem, it is skyrocketing premiums?up 119 percent from 1999 to 2008?that continue to have the greatest impact on family and employer health care costs. In comparison, the Consumer Price Index, which tracks general inflation, rose by only 29.2 percent in the same period.

The report is the first-ever state-by-state projection of the number of people who will lose coverage between January 2008?the period immediately following the last Census Bureau report?and the end of the 111th Congress in December 2010. The report says, for Texas during that time period, an estimated 866,580 people will lose their health coverage. From 2008 through 2010 in Texas:

? 5,550 people will lose their health coverage, on average, every week;
? 24,070 people will lose their health coverage, on average, every month; and
? 288,860 people will lose their health coverage every year.

http://www.familiesusa.org/resource...ss-releases/5550-texans-are-losing-their.html

a couple probs with your report Spy

A: these #'s represent from 1-08 to 12-10 -

"Health Coverage Lost between January 2008 and December 2010, by State"

Hmm wonder what crystal ball they are using.

B: Wonder why they used a # instead of % of people in texas?

Lets see largest state in population is CA and report says they are losing 6,380 a week--texas in 2nd largest state losing 5,550 :shrug:

Out of curiousity Spy--are you aware of these deceptions before you post them or just an innocent liberal being duped?

oops almost --this may be answer to A & B--and why they they always use definition "progressive" instead of liberal--from wikipedia on your outfit with the crystal ball :)


Families USA is a progressive American non-profit consumer health-care advocacy organization. It was co-founded by attorney Ron Pollack, its current executive director, and Philippe Villers, the organization's current President.
Pollack was Dean of Antioch School of Law, and argued cases involving food aid for low-income Americans before the Supreme Court.
In 1997, President Bill Clinton appointed Pollack as the sole consumer representative on the Presidential Advisory Commission on Consumer Protection and Quality in the Health Care Industry, where he worked on the Patients? Bill of Rights.
Families USA is an influential health-care lobbyist in Washington, D.C. They've taken positions on every major piece of health care legislation, most recently the Medicare Part D plan.





 
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---and just in case anyone is curious to-
"THE FACTS/TRUTH"
June 09 state unemployment rates
http://www.bls.gov/web/laumstrk.htm
<TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="95%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=3 align=middle>Unemployment Rates for States
Monthly Rankings
Seasonally Adjusted
June 2009<SUP>p</SUP>
</TH></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Rank <TH align=middle>State <TH align=middle>Rate </TR><TR><TD align=middle>1</TD><TD>NORTH DAKOTA</TD><TD align=middle>4.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>2</TD><TD>NEBRASKA</TD><TD align=middle>5.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>3</TD><TD>SOUTH DAKOTA</TD><TD align=middle>5.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>4</TD><TD>UTAH</TD><TD align=middle>5.7</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>5</TD><TD>WYOMING</TD><TD align=middle>5.9</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>6</TD><TD>IOWA</TD><TD align=middle>6.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>7</TD><TD>OKLAHOMA</TD><TD align=middle>6.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>8</TD><TD>MONTANA</TD><TD align=middle>6.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>9</TD><TD>LOUISIANA</TD><TD align=middle>6.8</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>9</TD><TD>NEW HAMPSHIRE</TD><TD align=middle>6.8</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>9</TD><TD>NEW MEXICO</TD><TD align=middle>6.8</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>12</TD><TD>KANSAS</TD><TD align=middle>7.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>13</TD><TD>VERMONT</TD><TD align=middle>7.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>14</TD><TD>ARKANSAS</TD><TD align=middle>7.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>14</TD><TD>VIRGINIA</TD><TD align=middle>7.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>16</TD><TD>MARYLAND</TD><TD align=middle>7.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>17</TD><TD>HAWAII</TD><TD align=middle>7.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>18</TD><TD>TEXAS</TD><TD align=middle>7.5</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>19</TD><TD>COLORADO</TD><TD align=middle>7.6</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>20</TD><TD>CONNECTICUT</TD><TD align=middle>8.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>21</TD><TD>PENNSYLVANIA</TD><TD align=middle>8.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>22</TD><TD>ALASKA</TD><TD align=middle>8.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>22</TD><TD>DELAWARE</TD><TD align=middle>8.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>22</TD><TD>IDAHO</TD><TD align=middle>8.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>22</TD><TD>MINNESOTA</TD><TD align=middle>8.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>26</TD><TD>MAINE</TD><TD align=middle>8.5</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>27</TD><TD>MASSACHUSETTS</TD><TD align=middle>8.6</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>28</TD><TD>ARIZONA</TD><TD align=middle>8.7</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>28</TD><TD>NEW YORK</TD><TD align=middle>8.7</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>30</TD><TD>MISSISSIPPI</TD><TD align=middle>9.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>30</TD><TD>WISCONSIN</TD><TD align=middle>9.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>32</TD><TD>NEW JERSEY</TD><TD align=middle>9.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>32</TD><TD>WEST VIRGINIA</TD><TD align=middle>9.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>34</TD><TD>MISSOURI</TD><TD align=middle>9.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>34</TD><TD>WASHINGTON</TD><TD align=middle>9.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>36</TD><TD>ALABAMA</TD><TD align=middle>10.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>36</TD><TD>GEORGIA</TD><TD align=middle>10.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>38</TD><TD>ILLINOIS</TD><TD align=middle>10.3</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>39</TD><TD>FLORIDA</TD><TD align=middle>10.6</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>40</TD><TD>INDIANA</TD><TD align=middle>10.7</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>41</TD><TD>TENNESSEE</TD><TD align=middle>10.8</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>42</TD><TD>DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA</TD><TD align=middle>10.9</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>42</TD><TD>KENTUCKY</TD><TD align=middle>10.9</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>44</TD><TD>NORTH CAROLINA</TD><TD align=middle>11.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>45</TD><TD>OHIO</TD><TD align=middle>11.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>46</TD><TD>CALIFORNIA</TD><TD align=middle>11.6</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>47</TD><TD>NEVADA</TD><TD align=middle>12.0</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>48</TD><TD>SOUTH CAROLINA</TD><TD align=middle>12.1</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>49</TD><TD>OREGON</TD><TD align=middle>12.2</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>50</TD><TD>RHODE ISLAND</TD><TD align=middle>12.4</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>51</TD><TD>MICHIGAN</TD><TD align=middle>15.2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Why all the anger?

If this place sucks so bad move out of the country.

Love it or leave it.

And you downright hate it so :sadwave:

You will not be missed.


I don't like freeloaders, everyone should pull their weight, survival of the fittest. I have never given a bum money, I don't give one penny to charity, except to the SPCA since animals can't work, this is what I believe, work, work, work, quit bitching and buy your own insurance
 

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pay your own way

pay your own way

newsflash; alot of folks can't afford it. others are too stupid or tight to pay it. then when the shit hits the fan they want help. whatever plan goes down they oughta make the aholes that write it use it. plain and simple, including O.
 
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