ethiopian born man arrested at detroit metro with nuclear info

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Tuesday Nov.14,2006:

"A 34-year-old Dallas man was arrested at Detroit Metro Airport on Tuesday, carrying $78,883 in cash and a laptop computer containing mysterious files about cyanide and nuclear materials.

Authorities said Sisayehiticha Dinssa, a U.S. citizen who was born in Ethiopia, was arrested after getting off an airline flight from Amsterdam. They said he had spent four months in Nigeria on unspecified business.

When agents asked him whether he had any cash to declare, he said he had $18,000, authorities said. But when agents checked his luggage, they found an additional $60,883. When they scrolled through his laptop, they said they found the mysterious files. Dinssa told agents he was interested in learning about cyanide and nuclear materials."

oddly enough, the a.p. wire story leaves out some important facts... namely, that he was born in ethiopia, and that he had just spent four months in nigeria.....

and even more oddly, not one of the news agencies thinks we need to know his religion.....i`ll bet he was catholic.....or hindu? ....no? .... buddhist? .... no, that can't be it....gimme time, i'll come up with it......

mormon?
.:SIB )........lol

UPDATE ........:

the arrested man’s lawyer, leroy soles, has previously represented at least two terror suspects.....here’s an article about one, karim koubitri, whose case was overturned on a technicality:

how a terrorism case came undone....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002062640_terror14.html



"Less than a week after Islamic extremists attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, here were three North African Muslim men caught in a barren apartment with airport security passes, forged passports, videotapes of U.S. landmarks and a crude sketch labeled in Arabic an “American base in Turkey.”

They also had virulent jihadist tapes, including a rant against Christians and Jews that said, “Allah, kill them all. Don’t keep any of them alive.

Koubitri was convicted of heading a terror cell, but Soles was jubilant when the conviction was overturned last year on a prosecutorial technicality."



come on now, who among us DOESN'T carry around tens of thousands of dollars and nuclear technology documents???....

pfft...
 
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a pretty nasty little habit i`ve picked up,bjf.....

it hurts when you`re shunned like a leper by those you love most....

still marinating on this religion thing,though....

i'm betting he's a jehovah witness...they're always in my neighborhood, ringing the bell and wanting to shop talk about nuclear materials and cyanide.. .....

to quote w.c. fields:"there seems to be an ethiopian in the nuclear fuel supply"......

lol.
 

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Will be several standing in line to bail this guy out.
If one of planes on 911 had failed-- you'd have several orgs here going to bat for the terrorist just as they are with 20th hijacker currently.
They want to inherit the probs France and rest of Europe are now experiencing.
--and we don't need migration of poor angry Islamic immigrants--we are converting them internally--about 42% of Muslims in U.S. are american born converts--right Smurph ;)
 

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i'm betting he's a jehovah witness...they're always in my neighborhood, ringing the bell and wanting to shop talk about nuclear materials and cyanide...

I think you might be onto something here. I always suspected there was something a little off-kilter when they'd stop by my place.
 

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As usual, the (seemingly) most paranoid man on earth dives for a terrorsit "hit"...

...yep, all that extra security and waiting around in airports has saved another 100 lives...

...here's a good list...(last 11 years since 1995 bombings)

[and let me add, this was a really quick, **** about search...I'll do a lot better if anyone wants...]

Death...In the USA...

Driving off the road 254, 000
Falling 146, 000
accidental poisoning 140, 000
Walking down the street: 52, 000
Accidental drowning: 38, 000
Killed by flu: 20, 000
Dying from a hernia: 17, 000
Electrocution: 5000
Being shot by law enforcement: 4000
TERRORISM 3949 ****
Carbon monoxcide poisoning from random products: 1550

*** I gotta say that this place states the no. of dead from 9/11 @ 2976 which seems a little low to me??...and if that is the real number I could easily burst into another rant....but either way...I'll carry on...

Murders: 18, 000
Car crashes: 42, 600
Heart desease: 700, 000
Cancer: 550, 000
784, 000: Medical mistakes
11, 120, 000 Tobaccco related
3 mil Alcohol related
1 mil sexually realted

1 in 442 people in the USA get struck by lightning...

In fact, without all the ****ing about, more people have dies from a ruptued apendix than from a terrorist attack.

Now, please, don't get me wrong...I'm not in the least bit saying "do nothing"...but surely...surely there comes a point where the cost (in both $, and personal freedoms) becomes WAY to much for the benefit?

I mean, let's be fair...the aircraft industry for EVER, has worked on a $ benefit basis...There's a known problem, but it doesn't get fixed until the insurance pay-out is greater than the $ out-lay to fix the problem...
...real economics...accepted economics...

...yet we all freely, casually fly each and every day...

The annual risk of being killed in a plane crash for the average American is about 1 in 11 million.

SO...the odds of dying in a "normal" plane crash are far and beyond the % of dying due to a terrorist...

...in fact if you drive, smoke, drink, eat, have unprotected sex, get depressed, play golf in a storm, eat rubbish...or just get done over in a home invasion, it's so much more than the global "threat".

...now, again, I'm not saying there's a "good" way to die...simply the paranoid masses would amuse me if it wasn't for the 2 hour waiting and endless searches (and I'm not even 'dark' with a long beard!!) it takes to board a plane.




The odds of dying here...http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm

(just for fun)....

***...and **** it....really???...I always thought the number was closer to 5000?
But I've been to 4-5 sites now (again, kinda rushed, will accept a no-no) but the number is about the same!!!...
...yeah, we've all (haha, "we've all"!) talked about previous, misdameaners by US citizens (una-bomber, Oakie...etc...)...
...but how about Jonestown?...over 1000 US citizens killed. murdered by a religious freak?
...yet to my knowledge, we've yet to go to war againsr crazy, lunatic, fringe, religious "reverend" types, who (just guessing here) are more prevelent than ever before!!

Anyway...as usual I digress...

...but I do like the way that gw sees it fit to get upset about the fact that a person could get legal rep...

...I mean, I know this ...well, I was about to say government...but that's not right...

....we know how Bushy-boy has spewed pointless retoric about dictatorships, yet he has done more than any other western leader to become one!
Yep, **** the constitution...no need to worry about "traditional" government...the senate means nothing to me!!!

In fact (slight change of topic, but on a roll...)...has there ever been any man in modern western history that has done more to disrupt (and it's the least inoffensive term I can come up with!)....government in general, the consitution (ie. the way government was meant to be run)...basic freedoms, and law?????

Inocent until proven guilty??....Not on your ****ing life champ...we'll lock you up (and can!) for EVER if we want, on a suspicion...


They also had virulent jihadist tapes, including a rant against Christians and Jews that said, "Allah, kill them all. Don't keep any of them alive."

Mate, there's music video's/songs called "kill the Christians", by perfectly white, all-America bands, yet I've got littole doubt that they wizz passed flight security without a hitch.

Again, for the millionth time, don't get me wrong...I don't want to die in a hikacked plane any more than you do...but ****, if it's gunna happen, let's be fair about it...there'e **** all we can do about it...reallly...
...and we;'re FAR more likely to die on the way there anyway...


You see (getting backo the real point I made a while ago now (rant? sorry!)...
...killed in car crashes...LAW: drive x-mph....wear seat belts?? (ha, somewhat ironically not law??)
...bikes...definately madness that helmets aren't law...
...obvious one, fire-arms...

...despite LAW....despite logic, despite human nature even to a certain extent, PEOPLE DIE....it's a fact, you'll go one day (me too!)...

....http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=53905

Although, clearly some go before their time...:shrug:
 

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we all have to forgive mr c......speaking from the relative safety and comfort of koala land...

for most of the "let's not be hasty" left, it will take the "fact" of a city turned into radioactive slag......

for some on the left, even that will not be enough....

they think as long as they keep their head in the sand and keep repeating "it's all bush's fault", everything will be okay.....

the painful irony is that these same people who don't want to jump to "hasty" conclusions, are the first one to latch on to any nutjob conspiracy theory that pins the blame on israel/jews/republicans/bush/etc. ad naueum.....

just click your heels 3 times,dorothy....and keep repeating...."i`m so glad i live in the land of faeries and leprechauns"....
 

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i was watching hannity and skeletor last night....and mark furman was on......regarding the new o.j. book...

and skeletor actually believes(he was serious as a heart attack)that o.j. is innocent.....

that`s what he said...

just another example of the far left`s politically correct disconnect from reality..
 

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what are you really trying to say ? bottom line it for me in one sentence. what is your big point ? I was born in another country, I am American. do you want to know my religion ?
 

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what are you really trying to say ? bottom line it for me in one sentence. what is your big point ? I was born in another country, I am American. do you want to know my religion ?


let`s see....an unemployed ********/ethiopian(both known as muslim extremist hotbeds) who comes to america via amsterdam(do the name richard reid ring a bell?)with around $80 k on him....not to mention info on nuclear materials and cyanide on his laptop?.......caught at jihad int`l airport,btw...

doesn`t concern you,eh bryanz?....

apparently,didn`t concern 99% of the media either...

how dare i wonder about his religion?...well,einstein,since around the 1970s we have been at war with islamic fascism.....the fact that we did not realize this for many years doesn`t mean it wasn't true.....

don`t get it?...o.k.,let me elaborate....when one side believes they are at war with you, call you the great satan and your ally the little satan and scream "death to america" at every conceivable occasion, it doesn't matter if you consider it a war or not.....they do, and they are behaving in accord with their beliefs.....

that`s why it`s relevant to me...if not the politically correct media weenies...

and the great bryanz...
 

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Great post MrChristo...excellent...

But be careful, terror threat is raised to orange right now, so you might not want to...uh...something...
 

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let`s see....an unemployed ********/ethiopian(both known as muslim extremist hotbeds) who comes to america via amsterdam(do the name richard reid ring a bell?)with around $80 k on him....not to mention info on nuclear materials and cyanide on his laptop?.......caught at jihad int`l airport,btw...

doesn`t concern you,eh bryanz?....

apparently,didn`t concern 99% of the media either...

how dare i wonder about his religion?...well,einstein,since around the 1970s we have been at war with islamic fascism.....the fact that we did not realize this for many years doesn`t mean it wasn't true.....

don`t get it?...o.k.,let me elaborate....when one side believes they are at war with you, call you the great satan and your ally the little satan and scream "death to america" at every conceivable occasion, it doesn't matter if you consider it a war or not.....they do, and they are behaving in accord with their beliefs.....

that`s why it`s relevant to me...if not the politically correct media weenies...

and the great bryanz...

So we caught a terrorist that is a Muslim, go figure, the next time I go fishing I hope to catch a fish. I hope the people that are looking out for us are looking for terrorist and not Muslims. Every threat is not going to be this transparent. I hope the last layer of our defense is not as simplistic as you. Everything you say is true but a little sophomoric. I'm concerned about the real threats.
 

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This unemployed Ethiopian, Muslim with 80k was not some covert secret agent. Hello, here I am under the red flag. Was he a plant by us or them. If this guy could have gotten by, what does that say about us. It's not like he was trying to take flying lessons and not learn how to land.
 

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don`t get it?...o.k.,let me elaborate....when one side believes they are at war with you, call you the great satan and your ally the little satan and scream "death to america" at every conceivable occasion, it doesn't matter if you consider it a war or not.....they do, and they are behaving in accord with their beliefs.....

that`s why it`s relevant to me...if not the politically correct media weenies...

and the great bryanz...

I get it, do you ? I consider it a war. I understand the threat. That does not justify how we are fighting & defending ourselves, I think we can do better. Yes I get it . Do you ? Do you ****ing get that we could do better in this war ? Do you get it ? We all get it & most of the American people don't think your guys or Clinton before your boy has done the job. I'm still waiting for your guy that said he heard us, to get those people that knocked down those buildings. Another American goes down in Iraq, do you feel safer ?
 
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...yep, all that extra security and waiting around in airports has saved another 100 lives...

...here's a good list...(last 11 years since 1995 bombings)

[and let me add, this was a really quick, **** about search...I'll do a lot better if anyone wants...]

Death...In the USA...

Driving off the road 254, 000
Falling 146, 000
accidental poisoning 140, 000
Walking down the street: 52, 000
Accidental drowning: 38, 000
Killed by flu: 20, 000
Dying from a hernia: 17, 000
Electrocution: 5000
Being shot by law enforcement: 4000
TERRORISM 3949 ****
Carbon monoxcide poisoning from random products: 1550

*** I gotta say that this place states the no. of dead from 9/11 @ 2976 which seems a little low to me??...and if that is the real number I could easily burst into another rant....but either way...I'll carry on...

Murders: 18, 000
Car crashes: 42, 600
Heart desease: 700, 000
Cancer: 550, 000
784, 000: Medical mistakes
11, 120, 000 Tobaccco related
3 mil Alcohol related
1 mil sexually realted

1 in 442 people in the USA get struck by lightning...

In fact, without all the ****ing about, more people have dies from a ruptued apendix than from a terrorist attack.

Now, please, don't get me wrong...I'm not in the least bit saying "do nothing"...but surely...surely there comes a point where the cost (in both $, and personal freedoms) becomes WAY to much for the benefit?

I mean, let's be fair...the aircraft industry for EVER, has worked on a $ benefit basis...There's a known problem, but it doesn't get fixed until the insurance pay-out is greater than the $ out-lay to fix the problem...
...real economics...accepted economics...

...yet we all freely, casually fly each and every day...

The annual risk of being killed in a plane crash for the average American is about 1 in 11 million.

SO...the odds of dying in a "normal" plane crash are far and beyond the % of dying due to a terrorist...

...in fact if you drive, smoke, drink, eat, have unprotected sex, get depressed, play golf in a storm, eat rubbish...or just get done over in a home invasion, it's so much more than the global "threat".

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Car wrecks are unfortunate, but unless we are talking about the movie "Maximum Overdrive" the cars are not out to kill as many Americans as possible. You think there might be just a little bit of a difference between accidents and murder? Why did we spend so much money trying to track down Ted Bundy? What did he kill? 20-30 people? Who cares? So many more people die from carbon monoxide poisoning. We would be better off having 100 Ted Bundy/Jeffery Dahlmers running around torturing and murdering as many people as possible and just hiring more inspectors to check for carb mon levels. I know I would sleep much easier.

Your post is a perfect example of using stats and absolutely amazingly bad logic to prove something completely idiotic. (See Scott4SC's post about Montana St being better than USC by transference of wins as an example. He was joking, I'm not sure you are.)

At what level of body count should we start inconveniencing you in the airport? 4,000 people murdered is obviously is not enough. 150K? New York City? We've got 300 million people in the US alone, who cares if a couple hundred thousand are murdered by terrorists. Lets not get all crazy about this until we can get the murder total above annual deaths from car accidents.
 

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Mr C is there "any reason" you left aids of your list--after all it is the mostly costly/deadlist and easiest to prevent disease on earth.

P.S. nice comparison of occurances of individual events over decade to single event that took seconds--

You didn't learn that in any logic course--maybe liberal arts--huh :)

You know what I thought of on your post and the liberals chiming in--

NYC before the terrorist struck--many shared your attitude--days following every swinging dick was flying an american flag.

When the shits hits the fan--everybody will be running--some to help and some to save their own ass--
 
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Mr C is there "any reason" you left aids of your list--after all it is the mostly costly/deadlist and easiest to prevent disease on earth.

Pretty sure I did mention std's and unprotected sex actually Dogs. :shrug:

At what level of body count should we start inconveniencing you in the airport? 4,000 people murdered is obviously is not enough.

At what cost do we continue??

At what pint is enough too much?...Would you like to be frisked...strip searched even! :scared ...every time you walked into every shop, because you might be the guy who is about to rob the place?
Would you want your personal luggage searched every time you checked into a hotel because you might be the guy about to blow it up?
Car searched every time you park in a car-park...

The point I'm making is that there are just some things in this world we can't control.
Obviously your point (and gw's) is that we caught this guy, we're winning!!!...
...my point is that for every "this guy" there are probably 5, 10, 20 others who have the same info but aren't stupid enough to carry around wads of cash and a lap-top with a nice little folder labelled "nuclear threat data".

Of course there is a difference between accidents and murder...point?

... for every Ted Bundy there are 1000's of average Jo's that only kill 1 person...so Ted's victims were more important than any individual?...You're actually supporting my whole "pointlessness" argument.

How many car accidents occur by people breaking the law?...speeding, running red lights, dui, drugs...all 100% avoidable...if we want to assign a policeman for EVERY driver in the world.

What a stupid, unrealistic proposal hey?!...You just have a think about it ;)


I also like the way flapjack, that you seem to ignore that the aircraft indusrty work under that very principal, yet I guess you have no issues with flying when need be?
Dead set, same, easy logic to follow mate...plane crashes WILL happen. Some are unavoidable. Some are absolutely avoidable but problems get over-looked due to simple economics.

Oh, woe is me...how many lives...HOW MANY LIVES??
It makes me shake my head at the double standards of people caring oh so much about "terrorism", yet not giving 1000 other deaths on any particular day another thought.

Oh, sorry, gw... actually, I think Bush and the Jews cause more plane crashes than mechanics. :shrug: (where the **** did that little outburst spring from?...oh, that's right, as usual you ignored the entire moral of a post and just went on about your own little rant...)
 
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