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Lots of bad publicity and rumors on this outfit--

Have had account with them for years--
Any thoughts on what would happen if they did go under?--on stock accounts--and on money market savings account--supposedly backed by FDIC?
 

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i saw this in one option newsletter friday...not sure what to make of it..


Options Flow Summary and Unusual Activity Alert: E Trade Financial Corporation (ETFC)
Posted on 1/11/2008
General Sentiment
Markets continue their volatile trading today with the Dow Industrials down nearly 200 points at midday. Traders continue to process recent Fed comments, developments in financials, and restaurant and holiday sales results.

The CBOE Vix has risen half a point to 23.95, suggesting a bit more ?worry? in the market. Concern has been tempered somewhat by significant out-performance in financials today.


E Trade Financial Corporation (ETFC)
A poster-child of the credit crisis, Etrade has fallen more than $20 over the past 6 months to touch a low near $2 this week. Not surprisingly, this comes amid bankruptcy chatter.

Option volume has picked up this week with a notable bullish bias as call-buyers dominate the flow. January 3 strike calls have been the focus of most of the volume. Buyers have paid from $.10 to current levels of $.40 for more than 20,000 contracts, while open interest more than doubled to nearly 17,000 contracts over the period.

ISE data confirms much of the volume to be customers opening and making a low-premium upside play in hopes of a short term bounce.
 

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Someone would pick up their pieces and buy the company before they went under. The company is worth something and someone will still probably pick it up. Honestly, I don't understand why Ameritrade hasn't bought them yet.

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Wasn't going to buy anystock in etrade--just wondering if I'm subject to any loss on stocks/moneymarket I own in account there if they go under. I'm sure MM funds are back by FDIC but not sure about stocks.
 

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DTB Etrade probably will not go bankrupt, they have sold and written most of the garbage. bad management to get into this mess, do not hear to much from the hedge funds now who were screaming at TD and demanding amertrade to buy out /merge with etrade, good way to lose 50%.

anyways as for the investors, I have my smallest account at etrade canada and not worried. first they should not go under.

here is what happens.

US investor
First most account should be segrated from the brokerage. so they cannot claim any owenrship to equities or bonds.

in most cases the SIPC would step in and try to transfer the accounts, to another brokerage.

if there was a shortage they may step in financially $100,000 cash and $500,000 account.

also Etrade claims to have client insurance and most brokerages have this feature, how much and the worth of it is on the face of it in the millions.....however we do know what the bond insurance means....lol.

SIPC is a federal body and stands for US Securities investor protection corporation.

In Canada the Canadian Investor Protection Fund CIPF covers investors up to 1 million.

Etrade Canada also claims they have insurance that covers each client up to 9 million.
Trust the CIPF much more than anything etrade may say though.

Would like to point out that if etrade went broke, unlikely, (though you should keep an eye on the stock), then though you would get your money as long as it is $500,000US, or $1 million cdn. account. (not counting etrade private insurance.).

also most would not be bothered because they all (should ) be in segerated account held in trust.

if they did go broke the assets may be transfered to another brokerage quickly, however believe SIPC (has stepped in 4 times, maybe more) anyways in one case it did take months, before the assets were unfrozen..... so would hate to have a a highly volatile stock that you could not trade (for a matter of months).

my smallest account is with etrade Canada and it is not a trading account for me, so I will leave my money there.

just go to show how management can screw up a great business model by getting involved in a business they should not have been in, the first place.

note: would never buy the stock however can see why option trader would make a trade, for a few thousand, however high risk trade, reward/risk.

thanks
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exactly what I was looking to hear.Thanks
Was hoping and thought that might be scenerio--but had a couple people tell me I'd better get funds out of there and caused some concern.
 
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