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you be the judge--

on recent mad cow scare

article from civil rights attorney in liberal Denver Post
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%7E30541%7E1872034,00.html

the FACT of the matter from Fox---

Activists Have Premature ?Mad Cow?

While the meat-arthritis study was certainly not ready for primetime, the anti-business activist group Public Citizen really got ahead of things amid last month?s mini-mad cow crisis.

When the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced on Nov. 23, at about 6 p.m. EDT, that the test of the cow-of-concern was negative for mad cow, the agency had already been pre-empted by Public Citizen, which had issued a media release on Nov. 23, at 9:37 a.m., on Progressive Newswire.

Public Citizen?s release said, however, that the USDA had ?confirmed its second case of? mad cow? and that the confirmation ?reinforces the need for federal regulators to close the loopholes that remain in our BSE prevention policies.?

Not only was Public Citizen wrong, but they were wrong about eight hours ahead of the USDA's announcement of the correct result.

Don't bother going to Progressive Newswire to look for Public Citizen?s release ? the web site apparently was scrubbed long ago. But the media release does yet live on the web ? this copy was posted on the Internet more than five hours ahead of the USDA's announcement.

Not only did Public Citizen jump the gun, but I think they were standing in front of the gun when it went off.
 

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Please don't just watch Fox or someday you will be out foxed. Open up alittle.
 

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don't be ignorant

all of the news shows have bias with most tilting to the left.

Of course Fox leans right but who else does?

CNN - you're kidding right?
MSNBC - lmao
Dan Rather?

all the news is tilted in one direction, get used to it
 

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DJV While I don't view much other news on tv other than fox I do scan numerous news sources each day as you should be aware of by now.
Reason I watch Fox a couples of hours a night is I'm an optomist for most part. There are about as many commentators there I dislike as like.I really likeSheperd Smith, Brit Hume and Oreilly-- Don't care for Greta--Hannity and Combs and Hate Geraldo.
Love Ollie North and War Stories on Sunday.
 

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The problem with Fox is largely in what stories they choose to cover and then the way they brand these conservative "talking points" with all of their commentators. They are known to have company-wide directives to use words like, "flip-flop," and, "global test," to make liberals look bad. This article is a prime example with the use of the word, "anti-business."

Fox seems to focus on conservative outrage. They put massive emphasis on any story that has the potential to stir up conservatives into a lather.
 

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how about using the term "insurgents" by the liberal news media instead of using "islamofasciist terrorist extremists"
 

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well there ya go...

that's a priceless example right there.

Don't the term 'insurgent' seem patriotic somehow? Sort of like 'freedom figher'
 

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what about on election night when Bush pulled ahead?

Did you see the looks on the faces of the non-biased "professional journalists" at CNN?

Their faces where pale whie, they were ashen-faced, as if they'd seen a ghost. Shocked.

Don't tell me that was objective broadcasting.
 

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"Fox seems to focus on conservative outrage. They put massive emphasis on any story that has the potential to stir up conservatives into a lather."

You might have something there Nick,but you might want to add moderate dems to their list also as proof by their continuous tromping of the liberal cable news outlets collectively and base keeps getting stronger.
Not just conservatives that don't like politically correct BS.
Lots of all Americans like Christmas-like boyscouts are against child porn-thinkr prayer is less offensive than be able to say f-ck on the networks-prefer historic american value over Denmarks values.

--and If I had my choice I would prefer conservatives in a lather fighting for the above than the liberal media (NYT-La Times/Algezeera) exploits of throwing terrorists in a lather----
Not a day goes by terrorist media aren't quoting our liberal media
todays example---
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/60B69171-BA22-4AE9-BD84-0B16C86C02D6.htm

also I ilke idea of non canned interviews like those they had with Bush and Rumsey--with both getting some tough questions---I know one that didn't have the nads which tells you something when a pres candidate refuses interview on "the" top cable network but will go on Larry King with his pre screened questions--the same can be said for Slick-Mrs Slick-Jackson and others.
 
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Freeze, you're just priceless!! Keep 'em coming....

whats funny is that you are unable to realize what leftist spin is...

its a liberal's blind eye to their own bias, and a perfect example as to why the media is liberal and will be for a long while

priceless
 

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i know i don't know many American's who would describe a group of people who blow up civilians, and slaughter others by cutting their heads off of as "insurgents"

but somehow the media gets away with it
 

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What does insurgent mean? Heres a way Fox talks about our soldiers death rate in Iraq. The rate is up latley. Other news outlets will say 1006 have been killed. There both right. One is just more to the actual point. Fox on 8 deaths over the last week end. Several deaths have been reported said Fox. Other news out let's said 8 American Soldiers were killed over the weekend. Again both are right. One is to the point. The other is tip toeing as they say.
 

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http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/

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dr. freeze said:
how about using the term "insurgents" by the liberal news media instead of using "islamofasciist terrorist extremists"

Ignorant comments like this further illustrate how we refuse to differentiate between Al-Qaeda and those people who believe that they are defending their country and trying to fill the political vacuum that we created.

Only a total idiot (no offense to Rumsfeld personally) would think that citizens of another country would not try to defend their homeland by any means at their disposal. Obviously this would include roadside IED's, car bombs, rpg's, etc.

The beheadings are at the behest of terrorist organizations, not so-called 'insurgents', and these terrorists were not present until we opened the floodgates. We have not gone to the enemy, as the party line goes, but the enemy has come to meet us in Iraq and we aren't winning.
 

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DJV" Heres a way Fox talks about our soldiers death rate in Iraq. The rate is up latley. Other news outlets will say 1006 have been killed. There both right. One is just more to the actual point. Fox on 8 deaths over the last week end. Several deaths have been reported said Fox. Other news out let's said 8 American Soldiers were killed over the weekend. Again both are right. One is to the point. The other is tip toeing as they say."

Either you are misinformed DJV or have that liberal eyesight that blocks out everything you don't want to see. Sheez!!!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,141292,00.html

Baghdad Car Bomber Hits Green Zone

Monday, December 13, 2004



BAGHDAD, Iraq ? A homicide car bomber linked to Al Qaeda (search) killed 13 people near Baghdad's Green Zone on Monday as clashes resumed in Fallujah, a one-time insurgent stronghold that American forces believed they had conquered.

Meanwhile, the U.S. military announced that seven U.S. Marines were killed in combat in Anbar province in western Iraq on Sunday.

On the first anniversary of Saddam Hussein's (search) capture, an explosive-laden vehicle waiting in line to enter the international area at its western Harthiyah gate exploded as it drove toward the checkpoint, Iraqi police said.

Besides the fatalities, Dr. Mohammed Abdel Satar of Baghdad's Yarmouk Hospital (search) said 15 people were wounded in the bombing. The U.S. military said there were no troop injuries.

The Green Zone (search) is the heavily fortified area that housed the interim Iraqi government and U.S. embassy. It has been the scene of frequent attacks by insurgents during the past 18 months, killing and wounding dozens of people in car bombings or mortar barrages.

Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq group claimed responsibility for the bombing in a statement posted on an Islamic Internet site regularly used by militants.

"On this blessed day a lion from the [group's] Martyrs' Brigade has gone out to strike at a gathering of apostates and Americans in the Green Zone," the group said in a statement posted on an Islamic Web site.

The Marines who were killed Sunday died in separate incidents in a vast region comprising the battleground cities of Fallujah and Ramadi. The fighting was the deadliest for U.S. forces since eight Marines were killed by a car bomb outside Fallujah on Oct. 30. The deaths brought to nearly 1,300 the number of American troops killed in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

In other violence, in the town of Mishahda, 25 miles north of Baghdad gunmen attacked an Iraqi National Guard patrol killing three soldiers and wounding thee others. The attackers fled, witnesses said.

And in the southern city of Basra, insurgents fired mortar shells on Monday at the British consulate but caused no casualties, a spokeswoman said.

Iraq's interim President Ghazi al-Yawer said in an interview broadcast Monday that the U.S.-led coalition was wrong to dismantle the Iraqi security forces.

"Definitely dissolving the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Interior was a big mistake at that time," al-Yawer told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

He said it would have been more effective to screen out former regime loyalists than to rebuild from scratch.

"As soon as we have efficient security forces that we can depend on we can see the beginning of the withdrawal of forces from our friends and partners and I think it doesn't take years, it will take months," he told the BBC in London.

U.S. forces retook Fallujah from the insurgents in a bloody battle last month in which hundreds died, including at least 54 Americans.

At the time, U.S. commanders claimed the action had broken the back of the insurgency in the mainly Sunni Muslim areas of western Iraq, but fighting in the region has continued.

Anniversary of Saddam's Capture

On Sunday, a lawyer for one of ex-dictator Saddam Hussein's top aides said a number of top leaders from the former regime had stopped taking meals in protest against the conditions of their detention and upcoming trials.

In Jordan, Saddam's attorneys released a statement ahead of Monday's first anniversary of his capture saying U.S. and Iraqi forces were holding the former president illegally.

"It was more of a forced abduction that later became compulsory concealment and solitary confinement, acts rejected by all international conventions," said a statement released by the team, which cited human rights conventions Washington allegedly had violated.

Saddam's lawyers were appointed by his wife, Sajida, but have not been able to contact their client. None were at his side when he was arraigned July 1 in Baghdad on preliminary charges, including killing rival politicians, gassing Kurds, invading Kuwait in 1990 and suppressing popular uprisings in 1991.

In Saddam's birthplace of Tikrit, a bomb placed under the car of an Iraqi National Guard officer, Capt. Khalil Hassan Hammoud, exploded prematurely Monday, injuring the officer's mother, spokesman Master Sgt. Robert Powell said.

In Mosul, U.S. soldiers detained two suspected bomb makers and uncovered a large cache of weapons and munitions, including plastic explosives, dynamite, rocket propelled grenade rounds, anti-tank mines and remote detonation devices, the military said in a statement.

U.S. Forces Pound Fallujah

On Sunday, American jets pounded parts of Fallujah with missiles as insurgents fought running battles with coalition forces. At least 10 precision-guided bombs were dropped on suspected rebel positions.

"We are still running into some of these die-hard insurgents that have either come back into the city or have been laying low," spokesman Lt. Lyle Gilbert said Monday. "As we are bringing in contractors to help with the reconstruction of Fallujah, this (fighting) slows the process down."

It was unclear whether the latest Marine deaths were connected with those clashes. The military said only that seven Marines died in two incidents while conducting "security and stabilization operations" in Anbar province.

In the nearby town of Ramadi, 30 miles west of Fallujah, insurgents launched several "indirect fire" attacks on U.S. Marine bases on Sunday, resulting in retaliatory artillery and mortar fire by American troops, Marine spokesman Capt. Brad Gordon said.

U.S. artillery fire killed one woman in the city, said Dr. Di'a al-Hiti from Ramadi Hospital.

At least 10 explosions were heard in the city early Monday, but no details were immediately available on their source nor whether there were any casualties.

U.S. forces retook Fallujah from the insurgents in a bloody battle last month in which hundreds died, including at least 54 Americans. The city had fallen under the rule of radical clerics and their mujahedeen fighters after Marines lifted a three-week siege of the city in April.

At the time, U.S. commanders claimed the action had broken the back of the insurgency in the mainly Sunni Muslim areas of western Iraq and that Iraqi security forces would start being phased in to take over, but fighting in the region has continued.

"We have come light years from April when they (Iraqi security forces) refused to even come out to Fallujah," Marines Lt. Col. Dan Wilson said. "We are in the process of phasing more ISF into Fallujah ... (and) are better equipped to intuitively know who belongs in the city, and who does not."

It was unclear whether the latest Marine deaths were connected with those clashes. The military said only that seven Marines died in two incidents while conducting "security and stabilization operations" in Anbar province.

Earlier, an eighth Marine was reported killed Sunday in Anbar, but the military later said the death had been included among the seven announced Monday.
 

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disregard...i don`t have the energy or the inclination to getting into any more pissing matches....

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DTB they should let there TV anchors say the same. Shep is about it. Other then there news breaks when some of those reporters may go another step. Both Fox And CNN are getting to be more shows then news. If you want news you have to go to CNN Headline News. They at least stick to news. They don't do O'Riley's and Larry Kings. They stick to news not B S shows with personal agendas.
 
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