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More testing needed before states implement Trump's reopening guidance, experts say
"I don't think any place is ready to start right now."
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Benjamin Siegel
April 18, 2020, 3:14 PM
7 min read
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tes...?id=70225607&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_heads_
The Trump administration has released guidelines for opening up parts of the country for business, but governors will have the final decision on when and how that happens.
While the White House on Friday insisted that the United States has the testing capacity to begin reopening the economy in certain states, under the administration's new guidelines, some public health experts warned that the country still lacks adequate testing to track and contain potential coronavirus outbreaks.
Vice President Mike Pence and the administration's top health officials said the United States has conducted roughly 3.7 million diagnostic tests -- roughly 120,000 a day -- and argued that the U.S. has the infrastructure to improve testing capacity.
"Our best scientists and health experts assess that today we have a sufficient amount of testing to meet the requirements of phase one reopening, if state governors should choose to do that," said Pence, referencing White House guidance.
MORE: Coronavirus government response updates: Trump says some states can start reopening 'literally tomorrow'
But public health experts surveyed by ABC News, even as they praised the broad strokes of Trump's reopening plan, said testing shortages would prevent states from safely beginning the reopening process, describing the problem as one requiring a federal, not state-by-state, solution.
"The most critical piece to this opening up is getting testing ramped up," Dr. Joseph Eisenberg, chair of the epidemiology program at the University of Michigan School of Public Health, told ABC News.
"I don't think any place is ready to start right now, on the basis of these criteria," said Dr. Ronald Waldman, a global health expert at George Washington University, who called the Trump administration's plan "the right approach to take."
"On the whole," he added, "it's the right approach to take. It?s a systematic, although vague in ways, plan for how to go about coming out of lockdown. I think it has some substantial merit."
The White House guidance, "Opening Up American Again," calls for states to be able to test symptomatic individuals and vulnerable health care workers before entering the first phase of loosened social distancing restrictions.
While a number of states have stay-at-home orders set to expire in the next few weeks, and others, such as Texas, eying a May reopening in some places, it's not clear how quickly the majority of the country would be able to begin winding down social distancing measures.
But states need to be able to test a much wider swath of their population -- beyond front-line workers and the severely ill -- in order to get people back to work, said Jennifer Pinto-Martin, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Pennsylvania School of Nursing and Perelman School of Medicine.
"The only way to successfully contain is with really systematic and aggressive testing and isolation and contact tracing. And the states don't have the capacity to do that on their own," she said.
MORE: As Trump pushes economic reopening, health risks and key questions unanswered
Contact tracing, a system of identifying new cases of COVID-19 by tracking a symptomatic individual's interactions with other people to find new cases, is also seen as a key piece of the plan to slowly reopen the country.
Trump has recently described testing as the responsibility of the states, rather than the federal government. His proposal called testing one of the "Core State Preparedness Responsibilities." And on Friday he told reporters that governors "are responsible for testing."
Dr. Saad Omer, director of the Yale Institute for Global Health, told ABC News that while the White House plan highlights a path forward, it "doesn't come close to saying how we're going to do it as a nation."
"It's reasonable to say that testing should be increased," he said. "But we don't have a national plan for doing so."
Leaving the issue up to states to solve for themselves could create inequities in testing capacity between states, the experts warned.
"If you're doing it well in one state and not well in the state right next door, then you might as well not be doing it at all," Pinto-Martin told ABC News. "So it has to be coordinated at the national level."
With many states concerned about lacking the testing required to monitor their populations, the administration has outlined efforts to help states expand their efforts.
"There is existing capacity that we have, that for one reason or other maybe has not been fully communicated," Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Friday.
Added Pence: "We actually believe that we could double the amount of testing that's taking place every day if we simply brought online all of the testing capabilities and all the labs."
The Food and Drug Administration has approved a slew of new tests that could help close the testing gap, and allowed for a new type of swab to be used to test for the coronavirus that could help ease the supply shortage across the country.
"I don't think any place is ready to start right now."
By
Benjamin Siegel
April 18, 2020, 3:14 PM
7 min read
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tes...?id=70225607&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_heads_
The Trump administration has released guidelines for opening up parts of the country for business, but governors will have the final decision on when and how that happens.
While the White House on Friday insisted that the United States has the testing capacity to begin reopening the economy in certain states, under the administration's new guidelines, some public health experts warned that the country still lacks adequate testing to track and contain potential coronavirus outbreaks.
Vice President Mike Pence and the administration's top health officials said the United States has conducted roughly 3.7 million diagnostic tests -- roughly 120,000 a day -- and argued that the U.S. has the infrastructure to improve testing capacity.
"Our best scientists and health experts assess that today we have a sufficient amount of testing to meet the requirements of phase one reopening, if state governors should choose to do that," said Pence, referencing White House guidance.
MORE: Coronavirus government response updates: Trump says some states can start reopening 'literally tomorrow'
But public health experts surveyed by ABC News, even as they praised the broad strokes of Trump's reopening plan, said testing shortages would prevent states from safely beginning the reopening process, describing the problem as one requiring a federal, not state-by-state, solution.
"The most critical piece to this opening up is getting testing ramped up," Dr. Joseph Eisenberg, chair of the epidemiology program at the University of Michigan School of Public Health, told ABC News.
"I don't think any place is ready to start right now, on the basis of these criteria," said Dr. Ronald Waldman, a global health expert at George Washington University, who called the Trump administration's plan "the right approach to take."
"On the whole," he added, "it's the right approach to take. It?s a systematic, although vague in ways, plan for how to go about coming out of lockdown. I think it has some substantial merit."
The White House guidance, "Opening Up American Again," calls for states to be able to test symptomatic individuals and vulnerable health care workers before entering the first phase of loosened social distancing restrictions.
While a number of states have stay-at-home orders set to expire in the next few weeks, and others, such as Texas, eying a May reopening in some places, it's not clear how quickly the majority of the country would be able to begin winding down social distancing measures.
But states need to be able to test a much wider swath of their population -- beyond front-line workers and the severely ill -- in order to get people back to work, said Jennifer Pinto-Martin, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Pennsylvania School of Nursing and Perelman School of Medicine.
"The only way to successfully contain is with really systematic and aggressive testing and isolation and contact tracing. And the states don't have the capacity to do that on their own," she said.
MORE: As Trump pushes economic reopening, health risks and key questions unanswered
Contact tracing, a system of identifying new cases of COVID-19 by tracking a symptomatic individual's interactions with other people to find new cases, is also seen as a key piece of the plan to slowly reopen the country.
Trump has recently described testing as the responsibility of the states, rather than the federal government. His proposal called testing one of the "Core State Preparedness Responsibilities." And on Friday he told reporters that governors "are responsible for testing."
Dr. Saad Omer, director of the Yale Institute for Global Health, told ABC News that while the White House plan highlights a path forward, it "doesn't come close to saying how we're going to do it as a nation."
"It's reasonable to say that testing should be increased," he said. "But we don't have a national plan for doing so."
Leaving the issue up to states to solve for themselves could create inequities in testing capacity between states, the experts warned.
"If you're doing it well in one state and not well in the state right next door, then you might as well not be doing it at all," Pinto-Martin told ABC News. "So it has to be coordinated at the national level."
With many states concerned about lacking the testing required to monitor their populations, the administration has outlined efforts to help states expand their efforts.
"There is existing capacity that we have, that for one reason or other maybe has not been fully communicated," Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Friday.
Added Pence: "We actually believe that we could double the amount of testing that's taking place every day if we simply brought online all of the testing capabilities and all the labs."
The Food and Drug Administration has approved a slew of new tests that could help close the testing gap, and allowed for a new type of swab to be used to test for the coronavirus that could help ease the supply shortage across the country.
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The governor's argued vehemently they wanted control on when to open and it was their constitutional right not the President!
So, in retaliation, he advocated insurrection in three states led by Democratic governors.
He's a complete piece of shit, and so is anyone who continues to support him.
Here in Kansas they are keeping open all the parks and encouraging folks to get out, during the stay-home order, to get some outdoor recreation and exercise, while still maintaining social distancing, + etc..
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1a. The Purposes of Government
https://www.ushistory.org/gov/1a.asp
Why do governments exist? One major reason is that they create rules. But what rules are necessary or desirable? That is open to question, and different types of governments have certainly created a wide variety of rules.
GOVERNMENTs almost certainly originated with the need to protect people from conflicts and to provide law and order. Why have conflicts among people happened throughout history? Many people, both famous and ordinary, have tried to answer that question. Perhaps human nature dictates selfishness, and people inevitably will come to blows over who gets what property or privilege. Or maybe, as KARL MARX explains, it is because the very idea of "PROPERTY" makes people selfish and greedy.
Whatever the reasons, governments first evolved as people discovered that protection was easier if they stayed together in groups and if they all agreed that one (or some) in the group should have more power than others. This recognition is the basis of SOVEREIGNTY, or the right of a group (later a country) to be free of outside interference.
The Great Wall of China
Part of a government's function is to protect its citizens from outside attack. Ancient Chinese emperors constructed a "Great Wall" to defend the borders of their empire.
A country, then, needs to not only protect its citizens from one another, but it needs to organize to prevent outside attack. Sometimes they have built Great Walls and guarded them carefully from invaders. Other times they have led their followers to safe areas protected by high mountains, wide rivers, or vast deserts. Historically, they have raised armies, and the most successful ones have trained and armed special groups to defend the rest. Indeed in the twentieth century, governments have formed alliances and fought great world wars in the name of protection and order.
In more recent years, government responsibilities have extended to the economy and public service. An early principle of capitalism dictates that markets should be free from government control. But when economies spun out of control during the 1930s, and countries sank into great depressions, governments acted. The United States Congress created the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM in the early twentieth century to ward off inflation and monitor the value of the dollar. FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT and his "BRAIN TRUST" devised New Deal programs to shock the country into prosperity.
The Federal Reserve System
Governments become involved with the economic workings of their countries. In the 1930s, the Federal Reserve System began to take a role in helping the American economy prevent another depression by locating currency reserves at centralized banks.
Perhaps government responsibility to provide social programs to its citizens is the most controversial of all. In the United States the tradition began with the New Deal programs, many of which provided people with relief through jobs, payments, and food. During the 1960s PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON unveiled his "GREAT SOCIETY" programs aimed at eliminating poverty in the entire country. Many European countries today provide national medical insurance and extensive welfare benefits. Many Americans criticize these programs as expensive ventures that destroy the individual's sense of responsibility for his/her own well being. So the debate over the proper role of government in providing for its people's general welfare is still alive and well today.
Though the rules and responsibilities vary greatly through time and place, governments must create them. Governments provide the parameters for everyday behavior for citizens, protect them from outside interference, and often provide for their well-being and happiness.
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The Federal Reserve
In the last few centuries, some economists and thinkers have advocated government control over some aspects of the economy. The Federal Reserve Board was created in order to prevent major economic crises in the United States, as its official website explains.
Purposes and Functions
The purpose of the "Fed" is explained in this series of PDF (Adobe Acrobat) files.
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A Talk with Bill Clinton
This 1996 interview with President Clinton conducted by The Atlantic explores the ideas of the dominant political figure of the 1990s. The president discusses his ideas of what government is for and how it can serve its citizens, such as through programs of universal health care and job creation.
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Problem is shyt for brains would rather run for re-election than lead his country in a time of peril.
https://www.ushistory.org/gov/1a.asp
Why do governments exist? One major reason is that they create rules. But what rules are necessary or desirable? That is open to question, and different types of governments have certainly created a wide variety of rules.
GOVERNMENTs almost certainly originated with the need to protect people from conflicts and to provide law and order. Why have conflicts among people happened throughout history? Many people, both famous and ordinary, have tried to answer that question. Perhaps human nature dictates selfishness, and people inevitably will come to blows over who gets what property or privilege. Or maybe, as KARL MARX explains, it is because the very idea of "PROPERTY" makes people selfish and greedy.
Whatever the reasons, governments first evolved as people discovered that protection was easier if they stayed together in groups and if they all agreed that one (or some) in the group should have more power than others. This recognition is the basis of SOVEREIGNTY, or the right of a group (later a country) to be free of outside interference.
The Great Wall of China
Part of a government's function is to protect its citizens from outside attack. Ancient Chinese emperors constructed a "Great Wall" to defend the borders of their empire.
A country, then, needs to not only protect its citizens from one another, but it needs to organize to prevent outside attack. Sometimes they have built Great Walls and guarded them carefully from invaders. Other times they have led their followers to safe areas protected by high mountains, wide rivers, or vast deserts. Historically, they have raised armies, and the most successful ones have trained and armed special groups to defend the rest. Indeed in the twentieth century, governments have formed alliances and fought great world wars in the name of protection and order.
In more recent years, government responsibilities have extended to the economy and public service. An early principle of capitalism dictates that markets should be free from government control. But when economies spun out of control during the 1930s, and countries sank into great depressions, governments acted. The United States Congress created the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM in the early twentieth century to ward off inflation and monitor the value of the dollar. FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT and his "BRAIN TRUST" devised New Deal programs to shock the country into prosperity.
The Federal Reserve System
Governments become involved with the economic workings of their countries. In the 1930s, the Federal Reserve System began to take a role in helping the American economy prevent another depression by locating currency reserves at centralized banks.
Perhaps government responsibility to provide social programs to its citizens is the most controversial of all. In the United States the tradition began with the New Deal programs, many of which provided people with relief through jobs, payments, and food. During the 1960s PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON unveiled his "GREAT SOCIETY" programs aimed at eliminating poverty in the entire country. Many European countries today provide national medical insurance and extensive welfare benefits. Many Americans criticize these programs as expensive ventures that destroy the individual's sense of responsibility for his/her own well being. So the debate over the proper role of government in providing for its people's general welfare is still alive and well today.
Though the rules and responsibilities vary greatly through time and place, governments must create them. Governments provide the parameters for everyday behavior for citizens, protect them from outside interference, and often provide for their well-being and happiness.
On the Web
The Federal Reserve
In the last few centuries, some economists and thinkers have advocated government control over some aspects of the economy. The Federal Reserve Board was created in order to prevent major economic crises in the United States, as its official website explains.
Purposes and Functions
The purpose of the "Fed" is explained in this series of PDF (Adobe Acrobat) files.
Report broken link
A Talk with Bill Clinton
This 1996 interview with President Clinton conducted by The Atlantic explores the ideas of the dominant political figure of the 1990s. The president discusses his ideas of what government is for and how it can serve its citizens, such as through programs of universal health care and job creation.
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Problem is shyt for brains would rather run for re-election than lead his country in a time of peril.
A democrat wanting CONTROL, no way...
This whole pandemic is about control by your government, see how easy it was to make you stay in your home, take away your job, etc.......
This country needs to be opened back up just stay 6 feet away from others, how hard can that be?
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great question..opcorn2
You're full of shit and TDS.
Old Fool thinks Hillary or Joe "finger rape them in the pussy" Biden, would do better,
yeh touch a handrail with virus on it
catch a sneeze or cough that travels 30 ft
then you die
yeah its a hoax huh hedge
how are things at the auto depot these days
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'Delusional,' 'Absolutely false': Governors cry foul on Trump testing claims
Experts have said testing would need to be at least doubled from current levels in order to allow for even a partial reopening of America's economy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ernors-cry-foul-trump-testing-claims-n1187386
April 19, 2020, 12:29 PM EDT
By Allan Smith
Governors across the country on Sunday pushed back on the Trump administration's claims that states are conducting a "sufficient" level of coronavirus testing.
Speaking with CNN's "State of the Union," Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat, said it was "delusional" to suggest the states have enough tests to soon begin reopening their economies.
"That's just delusional to be making statements like that," Northam said. "We have been fighting every day for PPE. And we have got some supplies now coming in. We have been fighting for testing. It's not a ? it's not a straightforward test. We don't even have enough swabs, believe it or not. And we're ramping that up. But for the national level say that we have what we need, and really to have no guidance to the state levels, is just irresponsible, because we're not there yet."
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, told CNN that the "lack of testing" is "probably the number one problem in America, and has been from the beginning of this crisis."
"And I have repeatedly made this argument to the leaders in Washington on behalf of the rest of the governors in America," Hogan said. "And I can tell you, I talk to governors on both sides of the aisle nearly every single day. The administration, I think, is trying to ramp up testing, and trying ? they are doing some things with respect to private labs. But to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing, and they should just get to work on testing, somehow we aren't doing our job, is just absolutely false."
Experts have said testing would need to be at least doubled from current levels in order to allow for even a partial reopening of America's economy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ernors-cry-foul-trump-testing-claims-n1187386
April 19, 2020, 12:29 PM EDT
By Allan Smith
Governors across the country on Sunday pushed back on the Trump administration's claims that states are conducting a "sufficient" level of coronavirus testing.
Speaking with CNN's "State of the Union," Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat, said it was "delusional" to suggest the states have enough tests to soon begin reopening their economies.
"That's just delusional to be making statements like that," Northam said. "We have been fighting every day for PPE. And we have got some supplies now coming in. We have been fighting for testing. It's not a ? it's not a straightforward test. We don't even have enough swabs, believe it or not. And we're ramping that up. But for the national level say that we have what we need, and really to have no guidance to the state levels, is just irresponsible, because we're not there yet."
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, told CNN that the "lack of testing" is "probably the number one problem in America, and has been from the beginning of this crisis."
"And I have repeatedly made this argument to the leaders in Washington on behalf of the rest of the governors in America," Hogan said. "And I can tell you, I talk to governors on both sides of the aisle nearly every single day. The administration, I think, is trying to ramp up testing, and trying ? they are doing some things with respect to private labs. But to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing, and they should just get to work on testing, somehow we aren't doing our job, is just absolutely false."
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The Trump led Federal Government will be late reacting to this crisis too.
But what's new?
For the love of country remove this Carnival Barker masquerading as President.
But what's new?
For the love of country remove this Carnival Barker masquerading as President.
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WHO head warns worst of virus is still ahead
The WHO Director-General raised new concerns just as countries are beginning to ease restrictive measures.
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
04/20/2020 12:53 PM EDT
GENEVA ? The head of the World Health Organization has warned that ?the worst is yet ahead of us? in the coronavirus outbreak, raising new alarm bells about the pandemic just as many countries are beginning to ease restrictive measures.
WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus didn?t specify exactly why he believes that the outbreak that has infected nearly 2.5 million people and killed over 166,000, according to figures compiled by Johns Hopkins University, could get worse. Some people, though, have pointed to the likely future spread of the illness through Africa, where health systems are far less developed.
Tedros alluded to the so-called Spanish flu in 1918 as a reference for the coronavirus outbreak.
?It has a very dangerous combination and this is happening ... like the 1918 flu that killed up to 100 million people,? he told reporters in Geneva.
?But now we have technology, we can prevent that disaster, we can prevent that kind of crisis.?
?Trust us. The worst is yet ahead of us,? he said. ?Let?s prevent this tragedy. It?s a virus that many people still don?t understand.?
The WHO Director-General raised new concerns just as countries are beginning to ease restrictive measures.
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
04/20/2020 12:53 PM EDT
GENEVA ? The head of the World Health Organization has warned that ?the worst is yet ahead of us? in the coronavirus outbreak, raising new alarm bells about the pandemic just as many countries are beginning to ease restrictive measures.
WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus didn?t specify exactly why he believes that the outbreak that has infected nearly 2.5 million people and killed over 166,000, according to figures compiled by Johns Hopkins University, could get worse. Some people, though, have pointed to the likely future spread of the illness through Africa, where health systems are far less developed.
Tedros alluded to the so-called Spanish flu in 1918 as a reference for the coronavirus outbreak.
?It has a very dangerous combination and this is happening ... like the 1918 flu that killed up to 100 million people,? he told reporters in Geneva.
?But now we have technology, we can prevent that disaster, we can prevent that kind of crisis.?
?Trust us. The worst is yet ahead of us,? he said. ?Let?s prevent this tragedy. It?s a virus that many people still don?t understand.?
