this was a done deal before the Auburn game................They really seemed to be going thru the motions against Aub and Hawaii compared to the way they played against LSU.
Franchione.....Anyone else besides me that thinks
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The simple truth is that Franchione is a mercenary who cannot be trusted. He is not a man of honor and in my mind he belongs in the bottom of the barrel. I just bet there are many Bama players who are pissed off at his empty words. He could give a rats ass as to how Bama will fare next year. Probably laughing all the way to the bank. Those TxAM players had better watch out.
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I agree too...and what about all the players he recruited with his false promises..he probably preached loyalty and patience that they will be back...there are restrictions on how the students can move around and that they sit out a year in some instances..the same should apply to coaches...he should be shot..:firing: :firing:
oh yea, I know it was.......Ive got a buddy that works over in the head office at A&M as an assistant and he mentioned it about a month ago..........I just didnt give it any thought then.....
im a student at A&M and very glad to have fran here. i know the big reason he left was for the money, but dont you think him getting stuck with the probation was part of his reasoning for leaving. i mean he had nothing to do with the allegations yet he was the one being punished. i hear they are about to get slammed with some more penalties and im sure he wanted to get out of there because of that. i dont think he did anything wrong by leaving alabama , and if the coach before him wouldnt have got caught cheating then he might have never left. its their own fault.
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the bottom line is no one knows what U of A promised Fran and what they didn't promise him and since there's still exist problems coming out of memphis, it's not completely surprising that he's gone. I graduated from alabama and my initial reaction was to be pissed off and hate fran for breaking promises and lying to juniors to stick around when he just bailed, but I really don't think it went down like that. He's a great coach and will do well at A&M. It definitely will get worse before it will get better but I guess everything happens for a reason.
the bottom line is no one knows what U of A promised Fran and what they didn't promise him and since there's still exist problems coming out of memphis, it's not completely surprising that he's gone. I graduated from alabama and my initial reaction was to be pissed off and hate fran for breaking promises and lying to juniors to stick around when he just bailed, but I really don't think it went down like that. He's a great coach and will do well at A&M. It definitely will get worse before it will get better but I guess everything happens for a reason.
I'm guessing this is just a temporary stop until the NFL comes calling. I wouldn't expect him to be in College Station 5 years from now.
It's the American way to better yourself. I can't comment on the guy's character as I don't follow Alabama football. I can understand the fans being upset losing a great coach but put yourself in his shoes and cut the guy some slack.
It's not the leaving (or the lying about leaving) that has pissed all of us off--it's the gutless way he went about it.
Preaching trust, loyalty, faith and commitment to his players then not having the gonads to look them in the face and tell them he's leaving, prefering to do it via teleconference.
Word here is that after the teleconference, the players left the meeting room and immediately took (ripped) down all photos of the coach from the football complex.
John Croyle, Brodie's father, who is a hero around here based upon his work with his Big Oak Boys and Girls Ranches, said it best when he said "Coach Fran said he would be there for Brodie's career. He said that Brodie was his son now. The Alabama family has learned that Coach Fran is not the man we thought he was." Croyle also said, "Coach Fran asked all those boys to hold onto the rope," he said, referring to the team's slogan in 2001. "They did and he let go and left. Those boys are going to be just fine."
The press conferece Fran gave today is the exact same one he gave 2 years ago when he came to Alabama--"Kim and I plan on this being my last job" and "we're here to win a championship."
The events leading up to his leaving are also the same as what he did when he left TCU--promising the fans that he had a contract and had no interest in leaving up until the day he left.
Interestingly, the aggiecoachfran.com website was purchased on November 25, yet Fran claims he had no contact with A&M prior to this week.
Any respect I ever had for the man is gone:thefinger :thefinger
Preaching trust, loyalty, faith and commitment to his players then not having the gonads to look them in the face and tell them he's leaving, prefering to do it via teleconference.
Word here is that after the teleconference, the players left the meeting room and immediately took (ripped) down all photos of the coach from the football complex.
John Croyle, Brodie's father, who is a hero around here based upon his work with his Big Oak Boys and Girls Ranches, said it best when he said "Coach Fran said he would be there for Brodie's career. He said that Brodie was his son now. The Alabama family has learned that Coach Fran is not the man we thought he was." Croyle also said, "Coach Fran asked all those boys to hold onto the rope," he said, referring to the team's slogan in 2001. "They did and he let go and left. Those boys are going to be just fine."
The press conferece Fran gave today is the exact same one he gave 2 years ago when he came to Alabama--"Kim and I plan on this being my last job" and "we're here to win a championship."
The events leading up to his leaving are also the same as what he did when he left TCU--promising the fans that he had a contract and had no interest in leaving up until the day he left.
Interestingly, the aggiecoachfran.com website was purchased on November 25, yet Fran claims he had no contact with A&M prior to this week.
Any respect I ever had for the man is gone:thefinger :thefinger
sure sounds
sure sounds
like the guy has very little conviction...i`m sure he wasn`t standing in line waiting on gub`ment cheese based on what bama was paying him......i agree,the nfl may be the next stop....is that true,that he didn`t tell the kids face to face(the ones he asked to stay through the hard times)that he was leaving?...i wonder if he was on the board at enron?....
sure sounds
like the guy has very little conviction...i`m sure he wasn`t standing in line waiting on gub`ment cheese based on what bama was paying him......i agree,the nfl may be the next stop....is that true,that he didn`t tell the kids face to face(the ones he asked to stay through the hard times)that he was leaving?...i wonder if he was on the board at enron?....
What is he suppose to do??
Yes i think its horrible what he did to the players, but bama had there chance to sign him before the season and never got around to it. Then they offer him 10 years for $15mill compared to A&M's 5 years for $11 or 12 mill. He doesnt seem like the kind of guy who wants to commit for 10 years but i dont blame him for taking the deal money is money, and with all the work you do in coaching if you can make the basically the same amount of money in 5 years as you can in 10 its a no brainer. Also who knows 5 years from now a good coach might be making up to $4 mill a year, and he's not tied into his measley 1.5 mill a year at bama (i cant believe i just said measley 1.5 mill a year) Bottom line is Bama should have got the deal done last year and he is an ass for leaving his players.
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Tyler
Yes i think its horrible what he did to the players, but bama had there chance to sign him before the season and never got around to it. Then they offer him 10 years for $15mill compared to A&M's 5 years for $11 or 12 mill. He doesnt seem like the kind of guy who wants to commit for 10 years but i dont blame him for taking the deal money is money, and with all the work you do in coaching if you can make the basically the same amount of money in 5 years as you can in 10 its a no brainer. Also who knows 5 years from now a good coach might be making up to $4 mill a year, and he's not tied into his measley 1.5 mill a year at bama (i cant believe i just said measley 1.5 mill a year) Bottom line is Bama should have got the deal done last year and he is an ass for leaving his players.
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Tyler
First of all every person has the right to improve their standard of living, however coach Fran makes me sick on how he left Alabama. He tells all his players to hold on and stick with him and all this other crap. I would have liked to hear what he also said to recruits. Then he decides to leave for A&M and doesn't even have the balls to tell those players face to face that he was leaving or reasons why. From what I heard out of a sports station in Chicago was that the Defensive coordinator gathered the team and told them. They also said some of the coaching staff didn't know until yesterday that he MIGHT be leaving. Yes, this guy has every right to make a better living for his family, but don't be a gutless coward and have someone else tell your players or at least tell them in person. ALSO I was watching ESPN tonight and a guy I thought I had some respect for, Lee Corso, got under my skin. He says that Coach Fran had every right to do what he wanted and that he didn't owe his players or Alabama anything. I kind of liked Kirk's reply that he did owe his players some form of explanation or talk. I just think the guy is a gutless coward.
just cover
just cover
Guys right or wrong take a look at what is going on in our country. Companies bolting offshore for more favorable labor costs, lower tax rates, pro players moving at the drop of a hat is there a single week that the headlines don't have a bigger better greater story. Thome, A-rod, Martha Stewart, Enron, GM plants in Mexico. More and more that is the mentality, even the books who skate with our money are guilty of the same thing.
FRAN right or wrong is just pushing the cash envelope to the limit, when will it stop I think we know and we are not willing to discuss that even though it almost seems inevitable. A major economic bust is what I fear. Homes are being foreclosed on at a record rate here in central ohio. It all about the concentration of wealth. AH, I have said too much and but said too little at the same time. This is off topic so I will can it!
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FRAN right or wrong is just pushing the cash envelope to the limit, when will it stop I think we know and we are not willing to discuss that even though it almost seems inevitable. A major economic bust is what I fear. Homes are being foreclosed on at a record rate here in central ohio. It all about the concentration of wealth. AH, I have said too much and but said too little at the same time. This is off topic so I will can it!
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