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ML:4-6 +235
Parlay: 1-0 +260

Big 12: 21-13 +1670
last week 3-3 +60

overall
last week: 3-4 -50
last 2 weeks: 10-13 ATS 1-1 ML -550

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Tex A&M +9.5 -220:).............:( for me personally

This is just too many poitns.....line should be 4-6.5 imo.....must win for TAMU to save RC's job....dangerous place to play....OU barely squeeked by 2 years ago with an INT return to win game....and that game shouldda been more lopsided than this one.....very similar situation here.....with exception of Heupal vs. Hybl at QB's......ATM worht a play on the ML too.....

Believe it or not...this is a good play against public perception too.....Aggie fans have given up on this team......i know some that aren't even going to the game because of a "sure loss" in the works.....don't want to have their day ruined in what should be a nice Saturday.....

OU could blow this one wide open but i see that happening less than a third fo the time.....think this one stays within a Touchdown easily half them time.....1-2 scores the other sixth...
 
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Your play on A&M is no surprise as you have gone against OU pretty much the whole year..Did you not say that OU's linebackers were "garbage". Kyle Field had been a tough place to play but that mystique is gone this year with 3 home losses. A&M's linebacker Penwright did not do A&M any favors by saying not only OU but Texas is not good enough to beat them at home. I guess he was saying that about Vatech, Tech, and Nebraska. This is not 2000 and yes OU's pass offense is not as good as it was than 2000 but their run offense is better. The problem with A&M is they have no offense and certainly no running game. They look like world beaters against Baylor and Kansas. They got 21 pts off to's against Neb so they basically had 1 td drive (at home) against Neb and we all saw Neb defense is at best average. Next to Utep and Tulsa and maybe South Florida (and thats a stretch) this is this worst offense OU has faced ytd and home field advantage or not; unless OU turns the ball over and A&M scores like typical A&M; can't see A&M scoring more than 10 in this game. Pennwright trashtalking was all the extra motivation
OU needed.
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Good luck on your play.
 
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check last week's OU/CU play:nono:

check big12 ytd record:nono:

check who my favorite team is:nono:

I believe I said that OU might blow this team out.....but.....i think this game stays close more often than it does not......OU is a far better team than TAMU...as to whether their run game is better than it was in 00 i am not so sure.....i remember seeing griffin putting up 42 on Texas.....i think ATM plays well this weekend......and that it will be tough for OU to score as well....

until then, dont:nono: me on how i am going against OU all year....yeah i went against thme some but have also won with them some....specifically remember betting on them against Texas -- although i didn't post that one nor is it in my records, and against Colorado.....have went against them against Mizzou (a far easier place to play than Kyle Field) and also went against them vs. Iowa State where i was dead wrong.....

I am as big a sooner fan as it gets.....but i bet objectively and see my team just like everyone else when it comes to betting......
 
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I will simply jump in and point out that OU's 2000 rushing "attack" was feeble at absolute best. That's why Bob Stoops brought in Kevin Wilson from Northwestern to actually have a running game. It is starting to work, too. Stoops, IMO, believed that Hybl was no where near Heupel (and I certainly think that and don't think anyone would argue that Heupel was 50x better than Hybl), so he needed to be more balanced on offense. OU started in 1999 with Mike Leach and passed every down like Texas Tech obviously does, and since Heupel left, OU has tried to become 50-50ish.

Numerous times during that 2000 season OU had 3rd and shorts (and 4th and shorts) ie KSU in Big XII Championship game, at A&M, Florida State, 1st and goal at Nebraska's 3 after a blocked punt and ran 3 straight times and had to kick a FG, etc. Regarding the Texas game in 2000, yes Griffin had 6 TDs, but all of them were 2-4 yard runs. Every single one. OU would get down to UT's red zone by passing, never running. OU could not run the ball at all.

Regarding the Texas A&M game in 2000, Oklahoma technically had 5 turnovers: 1 fumble, 3 interceptions, and a blocked punt at OU's own 10-15 yl. They still won the game, but if A&M had ANY coaching and any offensive ability, they would have ended OU's NC run in 2000. Of course, Farris was the QB then, and A&M had Toombs and Ferguson, but I think A&M was a much better team in 2000 than they are now. Before the OU loss in 2000, A&M had only lost at home 6 times in the RC Slocum era over a 12-year period. That's very strong. Remember that Heupel had that bursitis problem in his elbow and that may have accounted for all/some of those interceptions, but OU played a bad game and still won. Did they deserve to win the game? I would say no. However, OU outscored A&M 22-8 in the money quarter to eek out the win.

A&M in 2000 had ONE drive against OU that was not starting on OU's side of the field. That was the famous Toombs run on 4 and 1 when he carried about 15 OU defenders on his back for the memorable TD. Other than that, A&M had NO offense whatsoever and scored like they always do, off turnovers deep in OU territory.

In 2002, OU has a tremendous running game, or at least a legitimate running game. OU has better athletes than they did in 2000, and for whatever reason, and I can't believe this is the case, but A&M has lesser talent. What amazes me about A&M is that they are in the richest talent base in the USA and they can't get superior athletes there. They get good/great players, but not top notch blue chippers like Texas does.

In summary, I totally disagree that the 2000 OU at A&M game was supposed to be "more lopsided" than this 2002 version. OU had the Heupel injury they were trying to keep quiet, and it certainly showed. I simply think there are much better games on the board to bet (like Boise State HUGE - take 'em now while they're at 28, and take Texas Tech BIG too). If anything, I would still take Oklahoma in this game. Of course, taking the A&M ML would be quite profitable if it hit, but I just don't think it will hit at all. Dustin Long is an average QB at best, and that's being kind. Like said above, A&M's points over a BAD Nebraska team were largely off of turnovers and no legitimate drives. OU will be ready to play and should cover the number. But, I would not load up on OU under any circumstances.

GLTA
 
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beck......yep.....will be there......gonna have to check out Lock's new office and watch some football there......

picture is of Monk.....lol.....if you want to post a picture of beckstr i would be happy to put that one up......lol

Lanche......yep Heupal had bursitis problems and i know all about the coverup.....BUT....i do think that their rushing attack was similar to what it is this year.....teams were able to shut down that attack once they knew Heupal had lost some arm strength.....

the thing is, is i am counting on Hybl to make more mistakes on the road in kyle field.....that is what my play is based on.....this guy has looked good this year but that is mainly at home......a couple mistakes on the road and this will be a close game......

OU can't run over you like Nebraska can.....Nebraska -- for how bad they are -- can still get after you on offense with the running game and i think more effectively than OU can.....

Hopefulyl OU wins but i think it will be close.....do not forget the Mizzou game....that is most recent game on the road for OU.....that shouldn't have been close either on paper....but games this time of the year have a tendency to get crazy
 
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1st of all freeze the :nono: was for Pennwright's comments not you
2nd of all if you think OU is far better than A&M then why should the line be 4-6 pts; people still dont realize how good OU's defense is especially their pass defense but Long and company will figure that out quickly. And based off your comments about
OU including their qb, linebackers, and other personnel; if you
are as good as an OU fan as it gets; OU fans are in trouble
and lastly you think it will be hard for OU to score well last time I checked they are averaging close to 35 pts against defenses like
Texas, Bama, Iowa State and CU and those defense smoke
A&M's defense Kyle Field or not..and Tech proved that this year
as did Nebraska.
You may be right on your play as A&M always seems to pull a couple of blocked punts for TD's and int for TD out of their ass
because that is what they will need this Saturday.

good luck on your play; I myself see better games on the board.
 
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i have also said that Woolfolk and Everedge might be best two football players in the nation.....also Harris is getting healthy now....he was a HUGE factor in CU game.....OU is good, very good....but I just am really nervous about this game as a Sooner fan.....every bit and even more nervous before the '00 game in Aggieland....and that is due to Hybl.....and OU's kicking game is garbage too.....those things make me nervous and IMO warrant a play on TAMU
 
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write up on KState game.......

Iowa State has been bad on the road.....i don't see them stopping KState many times at all......i think Wallace has a moderate degree of success against Cat dfense.....especially 2nd half when i think KState is up 3 scores.....

KState 42 IowaState 24
 
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i am learning;)

also have a good gauge on big 12 sports.....been a big 8/12 fan since i was 6 years old in 1982.....have watched nearly every season closely since then....remember watching Rolando Blackmon, Mike Rozier, and others at very young ages.....

not too hot on other sports this year....priorities have changed somewhat since last year and i don't watch NFL games at all and only watch 1 maybe 1 and a half college games but analyze big 12 box scores every week and read up on whats going on.....hence the differential in the record-- i am basically playing craps on non Big 12 games
 
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