Geert Wilders ~ "Warning To America"

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Behind The Sun ~

Samir Majan, a young man born and raised a Muslim in the Middle East attends college in America. After receiving a degree from a university in Chicago, he begins his trip back home to see his family. But something has drastically changed in the young man's life since coming to the States. As his welcoming committee awaits his arrival, the young man is overcome by fear. Samir knows trouble and persecution lie ahead because he has done the unthinkable. Samir has become a Christian.

This is a story of a young man's choice, a father's pain, and a family torn apart. This dramatization set in the Middle East is based on real-life situations where believers face persecution, loneliness and even death when their own families reject them for choosing Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXvPYd8C_OU

(Start at 10:44, watch through 16:30)
 

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Good stuff Buddy
But it would be more effective if
You posted, screamed, transmitted this in the
Middle of the Pacific Ocean
The 'smart people' here will just scoff
At the info and ridicule you
 

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Muslims are allowed to build mosques in the United States, but no one is allowed to have a Christian bible in Saudi Arabia? Not building a church, mind you. Just being found with a Christian bible on your person is punishable by death.

"Warning To America"....I should say SO!

The biggest mosque totals are in these metropolitan areas:
New York City (192)
Southern California (120)
Chicago (90)
Philadelphia (63)
Detroit (62)
San Francisco Bay (62)
Atlanta (55)
Northern New Jersey (53)
Houston (42)
Dallas-Fort Worth (39)

States with the most mosques are:
New York (257)
California (246)
Texas (166)
Florida (118)
Illinois (109)
New Jersey (109)
Pennsylvania (99)
Michigan (77)
Georgia (69)
Virginia (62)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionqanda/2013/05/u-s-muslims-where-how-many/
 

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In case you haven't figured it out yet Buddy, we here in the USA have chosen to live in a democracy, and we live under a democratic government, with a constitution which requires religious freedom. The Saudis don't do that.

So, if you want to live where it's a problem being of a minority religion, you should move to Saudi Arabia where religious freedom isn't a right.

Your whining about mosques in the USA, that's because you oppose religious freedom, isn't it? Isn't that the reason you count up the number of mosques and synagogues?
 

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In case you haven't figured it out yet Buddy, we here in the USA have chosen to live in a democracy, and we live under a democratic government, with a constitution which requires religious freedom. The Saudis don't do that.

So, if you want to live where it's a problem being of a minority religion, you should move to Saudi Arabia where religious freedom isn't a right.

Your whining about mosques in the USA, that's because you oppose religious freedom, isn't it? Isn't that the reason you count up the number of mosques and synagogues?

the reason Saudis don't let Christian bibles and churchs there is they are afraid the Christians
will take over their way of life.

enuff said.


we should understand that much if we aint just stupid.
 

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In case you haven't figured it out yet Buddy, we here in the USA have chosen to live in a democracy, and we live under a democratic government, with a constitution which requires religious freedom. The Saudis don't do that.

So, if you want to live where it's a problem being of a minority religion, you should move to Saudi Arabia where religious freedom isn't a right.

Your whining about mosques in the USA, that's because you oppose religious freedom, isn't it? Isn't that the reason you count up the number of mosques and synagogues?

You are both deceived and deluded, Duff Miver.

Ever wonder why Osama Bin Laden told his followers, "America is soft."
 
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Duff, you and I obviously differ in some respects to what we believe. You believe Islam is a religion, ergo, you have no problem with mosques being built in this country. I don't believe Islam is a religion and I have a big problem with mosques being built here. I believe Islam is a political ideology operating under the guise of religion. I believe Islam is a fascist, political movement with an agenda of Sharia Law. But you have the liberty to believe what you want.
In a way, you remind me of the American tourist who went to Africa on vacation. The natives were friendly, appeared harmless and seemed to enjoy his company. When they invited him to climb into a large pot of cold water, he laughingly obliged his new friends. "Sure, I'm open-minded. Why not?", he said. Ignoring the fact the pot was sitting on a roaring flame, the tourist sat in the pot thinking, "this is rather refreshing!" For the life of him, he couldn't understand why the natives were gathered round the pot with dinner forks.
 
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Duff, you and I obviously differ in what we believe. You believe Islam is a religion (democracy? freedom of religion, etc.) ergo, you have no problem with mosques being built in this country. I don't believe Islam is a religion and I have a big problem with mosques being built here. I believe Islam is a political ideology operating under the guise of religion. I believe Islam is a fascist, political movement with an agenda of Sharia Law. But you have the liberty to believe what you want. In a way, you remind me of the American tourist who went to Africa on vacation. The natives were friendly, appeared harmless and seemed to enjoy his company. When they invited him to climb into a large pot of water, not wanting to offend his new found friends, he obliged. Despite the fact the pot was sitting on a flame, the water was cool, and the tourist sat in the pot thinking, "this is rather refreshing!" For the life of him, he couldn't figure out why the natives were gathered round the pot with dinner plates and silverware.

Nobody cares what you believe. Frankly, I wish religion would go the way of the dodo. We'd all be better off.
 

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Saudi Arabia.: Not that you could actually get in as a tourists -- no spiritual pollution here allowed in this modern-day medieval kingdom. It is a country rich in potentially amazing heritage sites, but when you have what may be the most restrictive travel policies in the world (even worse than USA's), they don't want you to see any of it. As the great unifier King Abdul Aziz bin Saud once said "My Kingdom will survive only insofar as it remains a country difficult to access, where the foreigner will have no other aim, with his task fulfilled, but to get out."

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pretty much says it all about that fawktard country
 

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Duff, you and I obviously differ in some respects to what we believe. You believe Islam is a religion, ergo, you have no problem with mosques being built in this country. I don't believe Islam is a religion and I have a big problem with mosques being built here. I believe Islam is a political ideology operating under the guise of religion. I believe Islam is a fascist, political movement with an agenda of Sharia Law. But you have the liberty to believe what you want.
In a way, you remind me of the American tourist who went to Africa on vacation. The natives were friendly, appeared harmless and seemed to enjoy his company. When they invited him to climb into a large pot of cold water, he laughingly obliged his new friends. "Sure, I'm open-minded. Why not?", he said. Ignoring the fact the pot was sitting on a roaring flame, the tourist sat in the pot thinking, "this is rather refreshing!" For the life of him, he couldn't understand why the natives were gathered round the pot with dinner forks.

Islam is not a religion? What planet do you live on?

Just so you know, most Muslims are peaceful folks. However, like Christianity, there are some who want to spread their religion through violence, a trick they learned from Christians who slaughtered many millions of Muslims in order to spread Christianity.

That's just plain historical fact, Buddy. More have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity than any other religion. Spend a few minutes looking up the Crusades and Inquisitions, and you'll understand the truth about Christians.

Remember the Holocaust when Christians tried to wipe out Judiasm by mass murder, death camps, Zyklon-B showers and wholesale slaughter? And their motto was "GOTT MIT UNS". How's that any different from the JIhadists, slaughtering unarmed civilians while proclaiming "ALLAHU AKBAR"?

Your answer is............?
 

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Islam is not a religion? What planet do you live on?

Just so you know, most Muslims are peaceful folks. However, like Christianity, there are some who want to spread their religion through violence, a trick they learned from Christians who slaughtered many millions of Muslims in order to spread Christianity.

That's just plain historical fact, Buddy. More have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity than any other religion. Spend a few minutes looking up the Crusades and Inquisitions, and you'll understand the truth about Christians.

Remember the Holocaust when Christians tried to wipe out Judiasm by mass murder, death camps, Zyklon-B showers and wholesale slaughter? And their motto was "GOTT MIT UNS". How's that any different from the JIhadists, slaughtering unarmed civilians while proclaiming "ALLAHU AKBAR"?


Your answer is............?

Duff,

I'm not nearly as bright as you (and obviously, neither is the speaker in the videos), but I know far more about the Crusades and The Inquisition than you think I do. You may want to review your church history, paying particular attention to the the reign of Constantine and the transition from the Caesars to the first Pope.

Also, you wrote: "Spend a few minutes looking up the Crusades and Inquisitions, and you'll understand the truth about Christians."

Let me fix that for you: "Spend a few minutes looking up the Crusades and Inquisitions, and you'll understand the truth about Papal Rome."

There's a big difference between true Christianity and Catholicism.

(As bright as you are, there's a chance you already know this. If so, you have my humble apology.)
 
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There's a big difference between true Christianity and Catholicism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Religion Scholar, but aren't all Catholics also Christian?

Ans wasn't Catholicism the only Christian denomination for the first 1500 years of Christianity?

And aren't there even today more Catholics than there are any other Christian denomination?

Sorry, Religion Scholar, but you can't duck the murderous nature of Christianity by claiming that being a Baptist, Moravian or Anglican absolves you.

Here's a little light reading about Christianity, Catholic and non-Catholic. When it comes to slaughter and mayhem, you boys make the Jihadists look like a bunch of girlie-men.

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
 

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http://www.nobeliefs.com/ChurchesWWII.htm#anchor2

(The following is from the above link)

The Catholic Church during WWII ~

Compelling Jews to wear yellow badges came from an invention of the Catholic Church. The Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 set up the Inquisition along with enforcement of Jews wearing a yellow spot on their clothes and a horned cap (pileum cornutum) to mark them as the murderers of Christ and to remind them of their descent from the devil. During the Black Death plague which ravaged Europe in the 14th century, the Catholic clergy aimed its blame at the Jews claiming they worked for the Devil and had poisoned the wells and springs. Their extermination compares with the pogroms that took place in the 20th century under Hitler. During the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Church directed its actions against the baptized Jews, the marranos. They forbade them to hold any office in the Church or the state; many suffered torture or death.

Popes have traditionally supported anti-Jewish acts and beliefs. Pope Paul IV in the sixteenth century established the Roman ghetto (another Catholic invention). For more than two centuries afterward, Catholics humiliated the Roman Jews and degraded them at the annual carnival. In the same century, Pope Gregory XIII instituted enforced Christian sermons insulting Judaism. [Cornwell, p. 299]. In a Papal custom Popes performed an anti-Jewish ceremony on their way to the basilica of St. John Lateran. Here the Pontiff would receive a copy of the Pentateuch from the hand of Rome's rabbi. The Pope then returned the text upside down with twenty pieces of gold, proclaiming that, while he respected the Law of Moses, he disapproved of the hard hearts of the Jewish race. [Cornwell, p. 27]

Forcing Jews, and heretics into the Catholic faith, of course has always served as a hallmark of Catholicism. When they could not legally use strong-arm tactics they used propaganda. Although most people associate the term with Hitler, propaganda actually came as an invention by the Catholics long before the Nazis, from the Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide, an organization established by Pope Gregory XV in 1622.

In the 1930s, as the Catholic leaders listened to Hitler's rhetoric against the Jews during his appeal for power, his speeches condemning Jews only correlated with the Church's own long history of Jewish hatred. Indeed, in Hitler's meeting with Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann on April 26, 1933, Hilter reminded his Catholic guests that the Church, for 1,500 years had regarded the Jews as parasites, had banished them into ghettos, and had forbidden Christians to work for them. Hitler said he merely intended to do more effectively what the Church had attempted to accomplish for so long. [Lewy]

It should come to no surprise that at no time before or during Hitler's rise did the Catholic Church speak up against such talk. Sadly the Church remained mostly silent, with its main objections concerned with its own power structure in Germany. Thus it aimed to prevent loss of control and, indeed, to gain Church control through an expansion of papal power, control of appointment of bishops, and the control of Catholic schools. This self-serving interest gave the Vatican an impetus to form an agreement with Germany. In this sense, Hitler actually saved Catholicism in Germany, especially considering that Bismark before him had begun a Kulturkampf ("culture struggle"), a policy of persecution against Catholicism. [Cornwell, p.14]

(for more of an education, just keep reading)
 

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You wrote: "Correct me if I'm wrong, Religion Scholar, but aren't all Catholics also Christian?

Ans wasn't Catholicism the only Christian denomination for the first 1500 years of Christianity?"

My reply : Yes, I agree. Catholicism was the only "Christian" denomination for the first 1500 years.

Enter Martin Luther (a Catholic priest) and his 95 Theses which he posted on the door of the Castle Church of Wittenberg on 31 Oct 1517.

Luther essentially accused the Catholic Church of heresy and was excommunicated by Pope Leo X in 1521.


From Wikipedia: "Luther's popularity grew rapidly, mostly because the general Roman Catholic church members were dissatisfied with the corruption and "worldly" desires and habits of the Roman Curia.[8][9][10]
 

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You wrote: "Correct me if I'm wrong, Religion Scholar, but aren't all Catholics also Christian?

Ans wasn't Catholicism the only Christian denomination for the first 1500 years of Christianity?"

My reply : Yes, I agree. Catholicism was the only "Christian" denomination for the first 1500 years.

Enter Martin Luther (a Catholic priest) and his 95 Theses which he posted on the door of the Castle Church of Wittenberg on 31 Oct 1517.

Luther essentially accused the Catholic Church of heresy and was excommunicated by Pope Leo X in 1521.


From Wikipedia: "Luther's popularity grew rapidly, mostly because the general Roman Catholic church members were dissatisfied with the corruption and "worldly" desires and habits of the Roman Curia.[8][9][10]

And the guys who kept the fires burning at Auschwitz....they were mostly Lutherans, right?

Evil, post Luther Reformation non-Catholic Christians, incinerating Jews for Jesus. By various means those mostly non-Catholic Christians killed 11 million non-combatant humans. That's equal to one Al Qaeda World Trade Center every single day for ten years.

Thanks for reminding me of yet another bit of Christian depravity.

You can paint a skunk pink, but the stench doesn't go away.
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