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Reps: U.S. Overpaying Halliburton for Gas

By Susan Cornwell

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government is paying Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)'s former firm Halliburton (NYSE:HAL - news) "enormous sums" -- $2.65 a gallon -- for gasoline imported into Iraq (news - web sites) from Kuwait, two lawmakers charged on Wednesday.

Democrats Rep. Henry Waxman of California and Rep. John Dingell of Michigan said this gross overpayment was made worse by the fact that the U.S. government was turning around and reselling the gasoline in Iraq for four to 15 cents a gallon.

In a letter of complaint sent to President Bush (news - web sites)'s national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), the two lawmakers said experts they consulted think the cost of buying and transporting gasoline from Kuwait into Iraq should cost less than $1 a gallon.

The Iraqi oil company SOMO is paying only 97 cents a gallon to import gasoline from Kuwait to Iraq, they said.

Waxman added in a statement: "We know that someone is getting rich importing gasoline into Iraq. What we don't know is who is making the money, Halliburton or the Kuwaitis?"

Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root, which defends its pricing as fair, has a contract with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild Iraq's oil sector. This has included importing oil products in short supply as the oil-rich nation's refineries are brought back into production.

As of Oct. 19, Halliburton had imported 61.3 million gallons of gasoline from Kuwait into Iraq, and the company was paid $162.5 million for an average price of $2.65 a gallon, Waxman and Dingell wrote.

"The $2.65 per gallon is grossly excessive," they said. "Experts we consulted stated that the total price for buying and transporting gasoline into Iraq should be less than $1.00 per gallon."

The U.S. government was then selling this gasoline inside Iraq for just four to 15 cents a gallon, subsidizing over 95 percent of the cost of gasoline consumed by Iraqis, they said.

"The U.S. government is paying nearly three times more for gasoline from Kuwait than it should, and then is reselling this gasoline at a huge loss inside Iraq," the lawmakers wrote.

Halliburton spokeswoman Wendy Hall defended the company against what she said were "false statements" about its efforts in Iraq, adding that wartime work was expensive and Halliburton only recovered "a few cents on the dollar" for fuel costs.

"Four types of fuel are being purchased: gasoline, kerosene, LPG and diesel," Hall said in a statement. These fuels had different prices, she said, but gave no details.

"It is expensive to purchase, ship and deliver fuel into a wartime situation, especially when you are limited by short duration contracting," she said.

"The costs for the fuel are 'pass-through' costs because Halliburton only recovers a few cents on the dollar for this expense," Hall said.

Cheney was Halliburton's CEO for five years before running for vice-president in 2000.

Waxman wrote earlier this month to the White House Office of Management and Budget to complain that Halliburton's subsidiary was overcharging for petroleum products, saying it was billing an average price of $1.59 a gallon.

A Waxman spokeswoman said new information the lawmaker has received since then was broken down into gasoline from Turkey and gasoline from Kuwait, revealing the price for gasoline imported from Kuwait to be much higher.

Halliburton was charging only $1.22 per gallon to import gasoline from Turkey into Iraq, Waxman and Dingell said.
 

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Talk about being blindsided! Never saw this coming at all. Next thing you know, some crazy liberal media people are going to start saying this had something to do with invading Iraq. And we just know that good 'ol boys like Bush and Cheney wouldn't do that. It was only about liberating the Iraqi people.
 

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I dont know enough about the specific gas prices to comment, but on a somewhat related story I saw someone on the news saying how much of a tragedy it was to have companies rebuilding Iraq who made political contributions to Bush. Well, who exactly do these folks want rebuilding Iraq? Little ma and pa GC's? Whether its Haliburton or Bechtel or any of the companies that LOST out on the contracts - any company of sufficent size to be able to take on billions of dollars in infrastructure projects have made political contributions, more than likely to both parties.
 

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The bidding should have always been open Peirod. It's the American way. Any other way is a misjustes to the tax payers of America. I keep saying fire that crook Cheney. And he can take his old thinking buddy Rummyhead with him.
 

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If ya like that kind of reading here is link to "Numerous" articles on Haliburton by Susan Cornwell. I think that is only subject she writes about.They must have fired her father years ago:D
I am amazed that New York Times did not put article on front page,appears every other liberal publication picked up on it from search below.;)
Now would someone name 2 other companies big enough to get job done beside Haliburton? I can think of possibly one.
Do I think Cheny will profit from it---yes
Do I think it is right? Schools still out,will take a few years before all comes to light.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=my_mod&p=Halliburton+susan+cornwell
 
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DTB thanks for making my point. The biding was open to the point it was open to companies large enough to handle the job in a sole source contract situation - six companies were asked to submit proposals. Having worked on similar contracts for 8 years, I ask you, would you rather delay the rebuilding of Iraq for 18-24 months during an exhaustive RFP process, or would you rather give the work to companies who have done this scope of work before?

Besides Bechtel and Haliburton, I cant think of many companies big enough to handle work like this. In this case, there were 4 other companies included in the bidding process. All 6 were awarded some level of work, including one that made 100% of their campaign donations to Democrats. All 6 of the above companies made close to 4 million combined in contributions between 1999 and 2002 to BOTH parties. The companies were chosen because of their size, their ability to handle this scope of work and for security reasons, the fact that they were US based.

djv, who, specifically would you have awarded the contracts to? You're a professed bush-basher so I know you are unable to be objective, but who else should it have been open to? And were you aware that all of the other contracts are open to anyone to bid on, foreign or domestic based?
 
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The problem was the no bids were let out before the first bomb even fell. Done deal with out a bid. Know why was that. After we find that out we can start working on the companies that are large enough to do the work. Ill stat with one from Idia called Blue Star. They build anything period. We been through this before there is no question how it went down. And this is about the robbery going on above with gas prices. My bashing is not as pointed at Bush if you look close. It's about him haveing the balls to think alittle more in the main stream and even alittle younger and get rid of Chenny and Rummy. If you think the press lately for those two is helpng your hero.They sure as hell are not doing our country any good either. Dam you listen to Rummy lately. When the Pres has to come out and clear up what he ment to say there is a problem. That guy could cost Bush his re-election. I for one will not vote again for Bush if he keeps that jack ass on his satff.
 

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this whole halliburton thing is nothing more than an attack on anything bush does with no other alternative mentioned....

its like opening the bidding to McDonalds and the local steakhouse for dinner....obviously McDonalds will be cheaper but Iraq required an experienced team to go in there and get the job done....

if you think it is cheap to pay your employees to go to Baghdad and do work right now then i got some land to sell you in Siberia call 1-800-drfreeze
 

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dr. freeze said:
if you think it is cheap to pay your employees to go to Baghdad and do work right now then i got some land to sell you in Siberia call 1-800-drfreeze
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drfreeze

that was cold.


KOD
 

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Doc Experieanced on what. Remember they did not to the majior clean up after 91 conflict. So they are not the only one.
 

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there is NO such thing as liberal news media in the US!!!


"The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News"


"FEAR AND FAVOR IN THE NEWSROOM", a documentary
on self-censorship within the American press narrated by Studs Terkel



Warner Music is owned by CNN/Money's parent AOL Time Warner

GE formed NBC Universal: 80% owned by GE, 20% by Vivendi

ABC owned by DISNEY CORPORATION

At the broadcast networks owned by Viacom, CBS and UPN, the gain was a more modest 7%

FOX - Rupert Murdoch - staunch conservative


***and if anyone thinks that the large conglomerates that advertise in these mediums don't have a say in what type of information is allowed to be broadcast....well....sad to say....but....you're simply mistaken***


*****and as an aside....Shaykh Jaber al-Ahmad al-Sabah, Kuwait's royalty has/had investments in quite a few major US corporations outlined in one of the two films....we're talking BILLIONS here, folks....BUT....of course that had nothing to do with the US coming to his aid during the GULF WAR*****


:)
 

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that might be the most ignorant post i have ever read.....that there is no bias in the media.....

poll after poll have been done and gotten over 90% of the media in all networks as leaning liberal....

brokaw, rather, jennings, koppel, etc. etc. etc.....all liberals

newspapers = cant find one that doesnt lean liberal

magazines -- time, us news, newseek....grossly liberal

radio and one cable channel lean conservative....whoah that accounts for all of the above....lmao

you liberals can't discern what is not liberal you are so out of touch...its amazing....
 

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The opened ended no bid contract Halliburton was awarded was before 9-11 even happened! And that's right it is open ended. Again, very strange for a contract of this type. The longer it takes Halliburton to get the oil wells up and running the more money they make.
Also, thanks to Right Wing Media most conservatives are so far to the right that they propose anything moderate as being liberal.
 

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Also, thanks to Right Wing Media most conservatives are so far to the right that they propose anything moderate as being liberal.


BINGO!!!


:)
 

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The newspaper I worked for all of last year was so conservative that just reading its editorals made me embarrassed to be associated with them. Thankfully I was sports so I was able to distance myself from all of that bullshit.

The "liberal media" is such a myth.
 

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bjfinste said:
The newspaper I worked for all of last year was so conservative that just reading its editorals made me embarrassed to be associated with them. Thankfully I was sports so I was able to distance myself from all of that bullshit.

The "liberal media" is such a myth.

so you base your whole argument off of a anecdotal report from Mitchell, South Dakota.....home of the corn palace......very insightful reasoning
 

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dr. freeze said:
newspapers = cant find one that doesnt lean liberal

No, simply using my experience there as an example that proves this statement of yours wrong.

The idea of a liberal media bias is just absurd. I don't think there is a conservative media bias (with AM talk radio being an exception and occassionally Foxnews). Those other guys hit it right on the head. If something isn't far right in its lean, it gets branded liberal when it is actually just moderate.

The Star Tribune in Minneapolis and Pioneer Press in St. Paul, my hometown papers growing up, both seem middle-of-the-road but if they leaned either way, it would be slightly to the right. There's no way in hell they are "liberal" papers.

Now that I'm here, I've been pleasantly surprised at how the editorial department of The Dallas Morning-News isn't slanted to the right like I expected when I arrived. I would even admit that it may be a bit to the left. But a blanket statement like "liberal media bias" is flat-out wrong.

Although I'm flattered that you remember where I used to live.
 

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One thing for sure Rush had a three hour radio show. It was a 3 hour comercial every day that went on answered for Bush. I know of no other broadcaster that get 3 hours to just bash anyone moderate or Left. Of course hes in jail right now so hes off the air. But he will return in, I would guess in a month or two.
 
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