HDTV owners please answer this for me.

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Cable guy is coming tomorrow morning to switch over the basic signal to High Def. I am absolutly lost with this and my wife will be the only one here anyway, is there anything I should make sure this guy does before he leaves? Pretty much it will be like it is when he leaves forever because I don't know anything about this stuff. Gonna put the HD connection on my Xbox now and see what that does, will they have to remove that and make me reconnect it every time? They are installing a new box and I get the digital recording(TIVO) subscription for an extra buck a month (seems like a good deal).

What sould I know before I let this guy loose on my tv set (and maybe my wife since I won't be here :scared )

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Make sure you have your own component cables
The ones from the cable company will be low quality

xbox should have there own input seperate then the cable box

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Good move on the Tivo..I just got a DVR from Comcast
 

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It's not really TIVO, its DVR from Armstrong but the end result is the same only I don't have to buy a recorder and it's only a buck a month.
 

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Do you have a home theater system, or will you be using only the TV speakers for sound? If you have home theater then you'll probably want to make sure both it and the TV have audio running to it. (At least I think you will. I know there are many times when I don't want the stereo on when I am watching TV, like when someone is trying to sleep). The cable company will likely only provide one set of RCA cables (one red, one white) for audio...a second set will be required to get sound from both sources.

Also, I'm assuming the cable company will supply them anyways, but you should have some good component video cables (this is the set of three cables...thicker diameter than the audio cables...usually one is green, one blue, one red). If you do have to buy them (or want to ensure you're getting good quality ones), you're looking for the cables that are labeled "Y, Pb, Pr". (Y is for green and convergence, Pb is blue, Pr is red...extra info you don't need to know, but just in case you're curious...). Ask a salesperson in any audio/video store and they will know what you are talking about. There is a wide, wide price difference between top of the line and average component video cables. Monster Cables are supposedly the best, but in my opinion the difference you'll see in quality does not justify the huge price gouge you'll suffer. They're grossly overpriced and not necessary unless you have a VERY expensive setup. Acoustic Research makes nice cables that aren't nearly as pricy.

Your TV should have multiple input jacks on the back. The HD receiver will be hooked up to one set of jacks, the X-Box to another (and DVD player, if you have one, to a third input, etc). Then, in most cases on your remote you will have a "TV/Video" button. You use that to cycle between inputs. Again, if you have a home theater system, you may want to get some more RCA audio cables so you can have the X-Box's audio going through that too. You shouldn't have to plug in and unplug anything if it's installed properly.

Other than that I can't really think of anything to tell you.
 

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Thanks, thats alot of info. Yes it will be hooked up to the surround sound system, but that part I can do myself. All I am really concerened with is getting ESPN HD (which for some reason is 3 more dollars a month). The TV I have get 2 different HD signals 480P and 1081i. Can you tell me the difference between those and if it's something I need to be concerned with?
 

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It is doubtful you'll need to know any of this, but since you asked, here is my knowledge of it.

Most HDTV's these days have 4 different modes... 480p, 480i, 720p, and 1080i. (I'd be pretty surprised if you don't have 720p actually). They're just different ways of broadcasting a signal. Each broadcaster picks one of those resolutions, and broadcasts all of their HD material in that resolution.

When a picture is displayed, it's actually drawn many times per second, one line at a time, starting at the top and working it's way down. The "i" stands for interlaced, the "p" for progressive scan. Interlaced = alternately drawing the lines; odd numbered lines on it's first pass, then the even numbered lines on the next pass through (old style of display). Progressive scan = drawing all the lines in order on each pass through.

Traditional TV broadcasts in 480i. That is, 480 lines of resolution on the screen, drawn in an interlaced manner. This method of display was necessary in the past to create a picture that updated quickly enough on old TV's so as not to be too jerky.

Most HDTV these days is in either 1080i or 720p. ABC, FOX and ESPN broadcast in 720p, while NBC, CBS and most of the other HD channels broadcast in 1080i. There are pros and cons to each. Basically it comes down to 1080i having more lines on the screen (sharper image), but 720p being progressive scan (smoother motion). So it makes sense that stations that show more sports choose 720p, whereas movie channels usually go 1080i.

New formats are on the way too. 1080p may be next. The TV I have will display up to 1920p, but my HD Box only goes as high as 1080p.

In any event, if a signal is broadcast which is above what your TV is capable of displaying the TV or HD box will usually automatically downconvert it to the highest level your TV can show. So if for some reason you don't have 720p, ESPN will be downconverted to 480p. You'll still get a picture, but you'll lose a lot of the crispness. It wouldn't be a whole lot better than what you view now. I doubt this is the case though...your TV, unless it is pretty old, should be capable of showing 720p.

On many TV's you can force it into a particular mode and have it up or downconverted, but usually it's best to just set it to auto-detect the mode and let it figure it all out. Upconverting 480p to 1080i is pretty much pointless since the TV has to simulate the extra lines to compensate. Forcing it into a downconvert is also not a really good idea...you'd just be throwing away picture detail needlessly.

And that's all I have to say about that. :)
 
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Make sure you slip him an extra $20..

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Actually GM, I appreciate the info and may box this ****er back up and kill the salesman if I understand what you are saying. The inputs on the back of the TV say 480P, 1080i, 1080P. I bought this thing to watch ESPN HD mostly and if I am not getting 720p then I am wasting the signal, right? Would it be worth taking this thing back (killing the sales guy) and buying another one that gets 720P since sports are all I watch?

Thanks again.
 

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The one thing that concerns me about your setup is the inputs in the back of your TV - you have separate component inputs for 480P, 1080I, and 1080P.

The problem you will have is you will need separate component inputs to go to 480P and 1080I. Standard definition programming gets upconverted to 480P, but hi-def will not look as good at 480 as it does at 1080I. Likewise, you cannot watch Non-Hidef channels in the 1080I input - which is why I think you'll need 2 sets of component inputs and to toggle between HIDEF and regular programming you'll need to change inputs on your TV.

This is the situation my TV has (Samsung DLP). There is a way around it - I use a DVI cable (Digital Visual Interface) cable to connect from my satellite box to my TV. This allows both type of programming to go through the DVI cable and the TV automatically adjusts - so I can change from channel to channel without any issues with changing the TV input. You MAY have the same issue - I'm betting yes, but I cannot be sure without seeing your system.

You may have HDMI instead of DVI as an input connector into your TV - don't worry, HDMI is the same as DVI but has Dolby Digital sound added. Which, by the way, you don't even need if you are using a Home Theater setup.

DVI/HDMI direct hookup is the way to go, if you have that option. Most of the cable/satellite boxes out there today have a DVI or HDMI output, so you just need the cable. AND you get a better picture with DVI/HDMI, as the signal stays digital from the cable box to the TV. Component cables change the digital signal to analog, send it to your TV, and then reconvert to digital.

Hope this helps and I surely hope I did not confuse you more. Trust me, once you have Hidef, you'll know it is definitely worth it!
 

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Mags I posted that wrong then, there is only one set of inputs labeled as follow 480i/480p/1080i/1080p, those numbers are all next to the same set of 5 RCA type jacks. Apparently the TV adjusts for whatever signal you are getting because I have never seen anything underneath the cahnnel number until I just hooked up the XBOX Hi-def cable and now underneatht he channel nymber it reads 480P and the picture is MUCH better than before with the Xbox (which was already pretty good) so I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens tomorrow when the cable guy leaves.
Thanks for the input guys and keep it coming if ya can so I can ask this guy these things before he leaves cause you know how long it takes to get them back once they leave.
 
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