Health Care is Not A Right

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Health Care Is Not A Right
Friday, January 12, 2007
By: Leonard Peikoff

Health Care Is Not A Right

By Leonard Peikoff (1993), updated with permission by Lin Zinser (2007)

LZ: In today's proposals for sweeping changes in the field of medicine, the term "socialized medicine" is never used. Instead we hear demands for "universal," "mandatory," "single-payer," and/or "comprehensive" systems. These demands aim to force one healthcare plan (sometimes with options) onto all Americans; it is a plan under which all medical services are paid for, and thus controlled, by government agencies. Sometimes, proponents call this "nationalized financing" or "nationalized health insurance." In a more honest day, it was called socialized medicine.

LP: Most people who oppose socialized medicine do so on the grounds that it is moral and well-intentioned, but impractical; i.e., it is a noble idea?which just somehow does not work. I do not agree that socialized medicine is moral and well-intentioned, but impractical. Of course, it is impractical?it does not work?but I hold that it is impractical because it is immoral. This is not a case of noble in theory but a failure in practice; it is a case of vicious in theory and therefore a disaster in practice. I want to focus on the moral issue at stake. So long as people believe that socialized medicine is a noble plan, there is no way to fight it. You cannot stop a noble plan?not if it really is noble. The only way you can defeat it is to unmask it?to show that it is the very opposite of noble. Then at least you have a fighting chance.

What is morality in this context? The American concept of it is officially stated in the Declaration of Independence. It upholds man's unalienable, individual rights. The term "rights," note, is a moral (not just a political) term; it tells us that a certain course of behavior is right, sanctioned, proper, a prerogative to be respected by others, not interfered with?and that anyone who violates a man's rights is: wrong, morally wrong, unsanctioned, evil.

Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all. According to the Founding Fathers, we are not born with a right to a trip to Disneyland, or a meal at McDonald's, or a kidney dialysis (nor with the 18th-century equivalent of these things). We have certain specific rights?and only these.



Why only these? Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people. The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the chance to work for what you want?not to be given it without effort by somebody else.

The right to life, e.g., does not mean that your neighbors have to feed and clothe you; it means you have the right to earn your food and clothes yourself, if necessary by a hard struggle, and that no one can forcibly stop your struggle for these things or steal them from you if and when you have achieved them. In other words: you have the right to act, and to keep the results of your actions, the products you make, to keep them or to trade them with others, if you wish. But you have no right to the actions or products of others, except on terms to which they voluntarily agree.

To take one more example: the right to the pursuit of happiness is precisely that: the right to the pursuit?to a certain type of action on your part and its result?not to any guarantee that other people will make you happy or even try to do so. Otherwise, there would be no liberty in the country: if your mere desire for something, anything, imposes a duty on other people to satisfy you, then they have no choice in their lives, no say in what they do, they have no liberty, they cannot pursue their happiness. Your "right" to happiness at their expense means that they become rightless serfs, i.e., your slaves. Your right to anything at others' expense means that they become rightless.

That is why the U.S. system defines rights as it does, strictly as the rights to action. This was the approach that made the U.S. the first truly free country in all world history?and, soon afterwards, as a result, the greatest country in history, the richest and the most powerful. It became the most powerful because its view of rights made it the most moral. It was the country of individualism and personal independence.

Today, however, we are seeing the rise of principled immorality in this country. We are seeing a total abandonment by the intellectuals and the politicians of the moral principles on which the U.S. was founded. We are seeing the complete destruction of the concept of rights. The original American idea has been virtually wiped out, ignored as if it had never existed. The rule now is for politicians to ignore and violate men's actual rights, while arguing about a whole list of rights never dreamed of in this country's founding documents?rights which require no earning, no effort, no action at all on the part of the recipient.

You are entitled to something, the politicians say, simply because it exists and you want or need it?period. You are entitled to be given it by the government. Where does the government get it from? What does the government have to do to private citizens?to their individual rights?to their real rights?in order to carry out the promise of showering free services on the people?

The answers are obvious. The newfangled rights wipe out real rights?and turn the people who actually create the goods and services involved into servants of the state. The Russians tried this exact system for many decades. Unfortunately, we have not learned from their experience. Yet the meaning of socialism is clearly evident in any field at all?you don't need to think of health care as a special case; it is just as apparent if the government were to proclaim a universal right to food, or to a vacation, or to a haircut. I mean: a right in the new sense: not that you are free to earn these things by your own effort and trade, but that you have a moral claim to be given these things free of charge, with no action on your part, simply as handouts from a benevolent government.

How would these alleged new rights be fulfilled? Take the simplest case: you are born with a moral right to hair care, let us say, provided by a loving government free of charge to all who want or need it. What would happen under such a moral theory?

Haircuts are free, like the air we breathe, so some people show up every day for an expensive new styling, the government pays out more and more, barbers revel in their huge new incomes, and the profession starts to grow ravenously, bald men start to come in droves for free hair implantations, a school of fancy, specialized eyebrow pluckers develops?it's all free, the government pays. The dishonest barbers are having a field day, of course?but so are the honest ones; they are working and spending like mad, trying to give every customer his heart's desire, which is a millionaire's worth of special hair care and services?the government starts to scream, the budget is out of control. Suddenly directives erupt: we must limit the number of barbers, we must limit the time spent on haircuts, we must limit the permissible type of hair styles; bureaucrats begin to split hairs about how many hairs a barber should be allowed to split. A new computerized office of records filled with inspectors and red tape shoots up; some barbers, it seems, are still getting too rich, they must be getting more than their fair share of the national hair, so barbers have to start applying for Certificates of Need in order to buy razors, while peer review boards are established to assess every stylist's work, both the dishonest and the overly honest alike, to make sure that no one is too bad or too good or too busy or too unbusy. Etc. In the end, there are lines of wretched customers waiting for their chance to be routinely scalped by bored, hog-tied haircutters, some of whom remember dreamily the old days when somehow everything was so much better.

Do you think the situation would be improved by having hair-care cooperatives organized by the government??having them engage in managed competition, managed by the government, in order to buy haircut insurance from companies controlled by the government?

If this is what would happen under government-managed hair care, what else can possibly happen?it is already starting to happen?under the idea of health care as a right? Health care in the modern world is a complex, scientific, technological service. How can anybody be born with a right to such a thing?

Under the American system you have a right to health care if you can pay for it, i.e., if you can earn it by your own action and effort. But nobody has the right to the services of any professional individual or group simply because he wants them and desperately needs them. The very fact that he needs these services so desperately is the proof that he had better respect the freedom, the integrity, and the rights of the people who provide them.

You have a right to work, not to rob others of the fruits of their work, not to turn others into sacrificial, rightless animals laboring to fulfill your needs.

Some of you may ask here: But can people afford health care on their own? Even leaving aside the present government-inflated medical prices, the answer is: Certainly people can afford it. Where do you think the money is coming from right now to pay for it all?where does the government get its fabled unlimited money? Government is not a productive organization; it has no source of wealth other than confiscation of the citizens' wealth, through taxation, deficit financing or the like.

But, you may say, isn't it the "rich" who are really paying the costs of medical care now?the rich, not the broad bulk of the people? As has been proved time and again, there are not enough rich anywhere to make a dent in the government's costs; it is the vast middle class in the U.S. that is the only source of the kind of money that national programs like government health care require. A simple example of this is the fact that all of these new programs rest squarely on the backs not of Big Business, but of small businessmen who are struggling in today's economy merely to stay alive and in existence. Under any socialized regime, it is the "little people" who do most of the paying for it?under the senseless pretext that "the people" can't afford such and such, so the government must take over. If the people of a country truly couldn't afford a certain service?as e.g. in Somalia?neither, for that very reason, could any government in that country afford it, either.

Some people can't afford medical care in the U.S. But they are necessarily a small minority in a free or even semi-free country. If they were the majority, the country would be an utter bankrupt and could not even think of a national medical program. As to this small minority, in a free country they have to rely solely on private, voluntary charity. Yes, charity, the kindness of the doctors or of the better off?charity, not right, i.e. not their right to the lives or work of others. And such charity, I may say, was always forthcoming in the past in America. The advocates of Medicaid and Medicare under LBJ did not claim that the poor or old in the '60's got bad care; they claimed that it was an affront for anyone to have to depend on charity.

But the fact is: You don't abolish charity by calling it something else. If a person is getting health care for nothing, simply because he is breathing, he is still getting charity, whether or not any politician, lobbyist or activist calls it a "right." To call it a Right when the recipient did not earn it is merely to compound the evil. It is charity still?though now extorted by criminal tactics of force, while hiding under a dishonest name.

As with any good or service that is provided by some specific group of men, if you try to make its possession by all a right, you thereby enslave the providers of the service, wreck the service, and end up depriving the very consumers you are supposed to be helping. To call "medical care" a right will merely enslave the doctors and thus destroy the quality of medical care in this country, as socialized medicine has done around the world, wherever it has been tried, including Canada (I was born in Canada and I know a bit about that system first hand).

I would like to clarify the point about socialized medicine enslaving the doctors. Let me quote here from an article I wrote a few years ago: "Medicine: The Death of a Profession."

"In medicine, above all, the mind must be left free. Medical treatment involves countless variables and options that must be taken into account, weighed, and summed up by the doctor's mind and subconscious. Your life depends on the private, inner essence of the doctor's function: it depends on the input that enters his brain, and on the processing such input receives from him. What is being thrust now into the equation? It is not only objective medical facts any longer. Today, in one form or another, the following also has to enter that brain: 'The DRG administrator [in effect, the hospital or HMO man trying to control costs] will raise hell if I operate, but the malpractice attorney will have a field day if I don't?and my rival down the street, who heads the local PRO [Peer Review Organization], favors a CAT scan in these cases, I can't afford to antagonize him, but the CON boys disagree and they won't authorize a CAT scanner for our hospital?and besides the FDA prohibits the drug I should be prescribing, even though it is widely used in Europe, and the IRS might not allow the patient a tax deduction for it, anyhow, and I can't get a specialist's advice because the latest Medicare rules prohibit a consultation with this diagnosis, and maybe I shouldn't even take this patient, he's so sick?after all, some doctors are manipulating their slate of patients, they accept only the healthiest ones, so their average costs are coming in lower than mine, and it looks bad for my staff privileges.' Would you like your case to be treated this way?by a doctor who takes into account your objective medical needs and the contradictory, unintelligible demands of some ninety different state and Federal government agencies? If you were a doctor could you comply with all of it? Could you plan or work around or deal with the unknowable? But how could you not? Those agencies are real and they are rapidly gaining total power over you and your mind and your patients.

In this kind of nightmare world, if and when it takes hold fully, thought is helpless; no one can decide by rational means what to do. A doctor either obeys the loudest authority?or he tries to sneak by unnoticed, bootlegging some good health care occasionally or, as so many are doing now, he simply gives up and quits the field." (The Voice of Reason: Essays in Objectivist Thought, NAL Books, 1988, pp. 306-307)

Any mandatory and comprehensive plan will finish off quality medicine in this country?because it will finish off the medical profession. It will deliver doctors bound hands and feet to the mercies of the bureaucracy.

The only hope?for the doctors, for their patients, for all of us?is for the doctors to assert a moral principle. I mean: to assert their own personal individual rights?their real rights in this issue?their right to their lives, their liberty, their property, their pursuit of happiness. The Declaration of Independence applies to the medical profession too. We must reject the idea that doctors are slaves destined to serve others at the behest of the state.

Doctors, Ayn Rand wrote, are not servants of their patients. They are "traders, like everyone else in a free society, and they should bear that title proudly, considering the crucial importance of the services they offer."

The battle against socialized medicine depends on the doctors speaking out against it?not only on practical grounds, but, first of all, on moral grounds. The doctors must defend themselves and their own interests as a matter of solemn justice, upholding a moral principle, the first moral principle: self-preservation.


LZ: In addition, we must join the doctors in their defense and in our own. Hospital administrators, nurses, physical therapists, health insurance companies, and patients must speak out against these plans, on moral grounds, as a matter of justice. If the doctors become slaves, so will we all.


Leonard Peikoff, who founded the Ayn Rand Institute, is the foremost authority on Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand.
 

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I bet this won't piss anyone off....
It is a good read.

Thoughts ...?


Health Care Is Not A Right
Friday, January 12, 2007
By: Leonard Peikoff



Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all. According to the Founding Fathers,


Now I'm as capitalistic as the next guy, and don't want any HANDOUTS either.....BUT $17211.98 in total TAXS and MEDICAL PREMIUMS taken out of my check so far this year, and the year isn't even half over yet. And that's all with me staying healthy. Come on.....there's gotta be a better way!
 

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I guess we can say taxes are illegal. Lets all stop paying them. In other words anyone can say what is or is not a right. But that don't make it so.
 
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I guess we can say taxes are illegal. Lets all stop paying them. In other words anyone can say what is or is not a right. But that don't make it so.

Dont exactly follow.

Sure, anyone can say what is and is not a right. But the point about "not making it so" is where i dont follow.

I am saying, or rather the article does, that healthcare (universal, socialized whatever you want to call it healthcare that is) is not a right granted to us-and unless you can point to where it Does say that it is a right-my saying so (and the Constitution's) does factually make it so.

So basically, if you are saying that "My saying so, dont make it so"--then you show me where "your saying so does make it so"
 

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The cause of the U.S. health-care mess is governmental interference. The solution, therefore, is not more governmental control, whether via nationalized medical insurance or a government takeover of medicine.

Health insurance costs so much today because the government, on the premise that there exists a ?right? to health care at someone else?s expense, has promised Americans a free lunch. When a person can consume medical services without needing to consider how to pay for them?Medicare, Medicaid, or the individual?s employer will foot the bill?demand skyrockets. The $2,000 elective liver test he or she would have forgone in favor of a better place to live suddenly becomes a necessity when its cost seems to add up to $0.

As the expense of providing ?free? health care erupts accordingly, the government tries to control costs by clamping down on the providers of health care. A massive net of regulations descends on doctors, nurses, insurers, and drug companies. As more of their endeavors are rendered unprofitable, drug companies produce fewer drugs, and insurers limit their policies or exit the industry.

Doctors and nurses, now buried in paperwork and faced with the endless, unjust task of appeasing government regulators, find their love for their work dissipating. They cut their hours or leave the profession. Many young people decide never to enter those fields in the first place.

What happens when demand skyrockets and supply is restricted? The price of medicine explodes. What was once to serve as a free lunch for everyone becomes lunch for no one.

The solution? Remove all controls. Recognize each citizen?s right and responsibility to pay for his or her own health care, and return to insurers the entrepreneurial freedom to come up with innovative products.

True freedom would bring health care into the reach of the average U.S. citizen again?just as it has done for other goods and services, such as computers, cell phones, and food.
 

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i wonder if all you guys who just hate the thought of everyone being covered would like it if your house burnt down and the fireman just watched it burn, laughing histerically. Or if a nutcase came in your house and tied you and your family up while the cops sat there laughing and he just beat the shit out of you?. I wonder if you would feel it was your right for them to do interviene?:shrug: Health care should be just like those two i suggested and get the profit and greed out of it. When you support a party that believes in nothing but greed you start thinking like them, which is greedy.
 

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i wonder if all you guys who just hate the thought of everyone being covered would like it if your house burnt down and the fireman just watched it burn, laughing histerically. Or if a nutcase came in your house and tied you and your family up while the cops sat there laughing and he just beat the shit out of you?. I wonder if you would feel it was your right for them to do interviene?:shrug: Health care should be just like those two i suggested and get the profit and greed out of it. When you support a party that believes in nothing but greed you start thinking like them, which is greedy.



Getting the prophit out of it is the problem.
What is wrong with prophit? It encourages people to innovate and be productive.
When you remove that, and leave it up to a government to take money from others and use it as they see fit, they use it unwisley and ineffecently, thus the mess we have today.

Should the government take over the distribution of food as well, so that not a single person in the country would go hungry? That would be nice, give everyone from the top to the bottom food stamps and tell them where and when they can and can not get their food. Just increase taxes and redistribute and it will work-then everyone will be happy and equal and everything will be just peachy.
Problem is, that hasnt worked and NEVER will.

Here is the reality-you are greedy, I am greedy, EVERYONE is greedy.
Dont misunderstand me, I dont mean greed insofaras screwing someone else over, or telling them how to live or do in order to further yourself.
I mean simply that everyone strives to better his own lot-and what the hell is wrong with that? Is that not what America was founded upon.
Liberty to have the freedom to be able to pursue happiness as you see fit?


I got off on a tangent, but fundamentally we see government as different.

In your examples you see the government as the firemen or the cops. Which is pretty interesting since they are protective forces, which by the nature of your example would mean you see the government as a protective force, the populus as the victim and the fire/nutcase as the current healthcare system.

The issue is that your "fire" or "nutcase" could be killed without the government.

Give everyone the power to make their own decisions, without interference. That will cause people to seek prophit-Which isNOT bad-it makes people want to improve upon the previous inorder to stay in business.
The government can stay stagnant all they wish, because once they swallow the entire industry-no one will be able to regurgitate it.
It would be like drinking too much whisky and not being able to get up and puke it up-you just sit there in the bed with the spins and cant do anything about it until you just dont care anymore and fall asleep.
 

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In that case why not unionize the military

In that case why not unionize the military

i'am sure they could use the extra money. When i was young and got hurt my parents could pay the bill out of their pocket, not now. America is all about the dollar and it will be the downfall of this country. You know what being an American means, God help you if you get sick.
 

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cut to the chase

cut to the chase

If you want to see health care cost become logical and reasonable : let the private sector dictate the price. First step : no free health care for senators and congressmen or any one in government that makes over $20,000.oo per yr except military. We have the best HC system in the world according to my congressmen, because he's been on one of the greatest social programs the world has ever seen for the the last 20+ yrs. If your going to be a servant of the people and go into government why should you get free HC ???? My congressmen who is Republican, Jim Walsh from NY, is a right wing communist bastard that embraces socialism and welfare programs when it's for his family. Why should we pay for him ????? How can WE get health care reform when the bastards that make the policy, line their pockets from the biggest lobby group we have ever seen and they get it free ???? I'm not the smartest guy in the world but does this make sense ?????? I have had people argue with me that law makers should get free HC ?? f----k them !!! COMMIE BASTARDS !!!
 

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If you want to see health care cost become logical and reasonable : let the private sector dictate the price. First step : no free health care for senators and congressmen or any one in government that makes over $20,000.oo per yr except military. We have the best HC system in the world according to my congressmen, because he's been on one of the greatest social programs the world has ever seen for the the last 20+ yrs. If your going to be a servant of the people and go into government why should you get free HC ???? My congressmen who is Republican, Jim Walsh from NY, is a right wing communist bastard that embraces socialism and welfare programs when it's for his family. Why should we pay for him ????? How can WE get health care reform when the bastards that make the policy, line their pockets from the biggest lobby group we have ever seen and they get it free ???? I'm not the smartest guy in the world but does this make sense ?????? I have had people argue with me that law makers should get free HC ?? f----k them !!! COMMIE BASTARDS !!!

Good point Bryan. All these guys who are fooled about health care like its a bad thing to do for our citizens have not said one thing about the politicians health care which we all happen to pay. The same group who i help pay for theirs doesn't want to see me have any if something tragic happens in my life. Just priceless. This was also a problem with that con of a bankrupcy law the neocons passed. Most people who file for bankrupcy do it because of a bad turn in life where health care cost just swallow them.
 
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i'am sure they could use the extra money. When i was young and got hurt my parents could pay the bill out of their pocket, not now. America is all about the dollar and it will be the downfall of this country. You know what being an American means, God help you if you get sick.

With the current administration, we may not have unionized it, but we certainly have taken steps to privatize it. Some companies have done pretty well for themselves over the past 6+ years...and they don't even have to account for much of anything, or I guess do much of anything for running the programs. If Halliburton is the shining example of what privatization could do for our country...you can have it, brother.
 

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Sam, I'm having a pretty hard time accepting the fact that the insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry, and medical industry is really looking out for the individual American's best interest. Do you really think they are most concerned with keeping costs low, developing innovative products to help people - or are they mainly concerned with the improving the bottom line, increasing their stock price, and throwing millions at the CEO flavor of the month?

I think some common sense has to enter into things - I do think that our government can play a role when it comes to protecting the "greater good" of health in our society.
 

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Here is the deal:

IF you are born in The United States and/ or are employed, you get chitted on.


If you are a foreigner , you will be handed money, housing, groceries, medical

Just think about all the " Radical Islamics " that are getting all the welfare perks...and fat teddy and bush want to give these " Radical Islamics " legal status with this Z-visa crap.

HOW MANY OF THESE RADICAL MUSLIMS THAT BUSH LET IN HERE ARE GOING TO GET CARTE BLANCHE ?

:nono:
 

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Money lets you buy what ever you want. Some states know if they cover everyone in there state it helps hold cost down for everyone.
By the way they just said again on many networks. We do not have best health care in world no longer. Depending on what study you use were 5,6 or even a little lower.
 

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Sam, I'm having a pretty hard time accepting the fact that the insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry, and medical industry is really looking out for the individual American's best interest. Do you really think they are most concerned with keeping costs low, developing innovative products to help people - or are they mainly concerned with the improving the bottom line, increasing their stock price, and throwing millions at the CEO flavor of the month?

I think some common sense has to enter into things - I do think that our government can play a role when it comes to protecting the "greater good" of health in our society.


Would not the "greater good" also be to ensure that no one goes hungry. Therefore, to ensure this greater good-shouldnt the government take over supermarkets and agriculture and make sure that every person has food?

What I am arguing for is radical change. We have come to a point where we are really arguing (in presidental debates) rather or not we should have socalized healthcare. I can not beleive that it has come to this.
I think we should go the other way.
Food prices are pretty cheap these days, and we dont have a huge starving population, but in the early 1900's in Russia, the government take over of agriculture left millions starving to death.
The same would happen with total government takeover of healthcare. It already is happeneing right before our eyes. And more government is not the answer.
You are basically arguing that the healthcare, insurance, drug company, etc industries would rather increase their bottom line than make sure people are well. The reality is that of course now they dont care how well their job is preformed because they are getting a check from the gvmt. either way, and the gvmt. doesnt care about giving them the money because its the taxpayer money anyways. You think that a business that relies on its customers and ONLY its customers for its financial base and in return a quality product is LESS trustworthy than a government taking money from a citizen and spending it as they see fit for the supposed "greater good".
The "greater good" would be for the government to stop telling me what the "greater good" is, and let us decide what is good and what is not.
 

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Yes that case in LA is what I was trying to say to AR. Not sure if Insurance had any thing to do with it. But this is happening more and more. In this case we have several people call 911 from emergence room of one hospital where thy were doing nothing to help this woman bleeding to death. They called 911 to beg someone to come and take here to different hospital. She died in waiting room.
 
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