How in the hell is OU favored by 15 @ KState?

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I guess someone's expecting a big let down for KST....I've been waiting for 3 weeks for that let down and it hasn't happened. This line is ridiculous!!! Without looking at anything, but the line itself you gotta go OU or nothing here.........A few of those points have to be OU coming off a loss as well. KST +15 just looks way way too juicy. Oddsmakers aren't that careless......
 

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They just lost to texas tech at home , they are going to fuk kansas st up the ass w no lube and win by 20+,line sounds about right :0003
 

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OU will cover



So let it be writin'.....so let it be done!




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I guess someone's expecting a big let down for KST....I've been waiting for 3 weeks for that let down and it hasn't happened. This line is ridiculous!!! Without looking at anything, but the line itself you gotta go OU or nothing here.........A few of those points have to be OU coming off a loss as well. KST +15 just looks way way too juicy. Oddsmakers aren't that careless......

ODDS MAKERS HAVE BEEN VERY CARLESS ALL YEAR ESPECIALLY AGAINST ALABAMA AND LSU. THE LSU MISS ST LINE WAS AS CARELESS AS IT WILL EVER GET.
 
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OU will cover

because OU is a great road team?
KState is overrated with a terrible coach?
OU is excited about playing again after losing out on an undefeated season and losing to Alabama in MNC game?


considering how sloppy OU played against KU, TT and part of the Mizzou game....I want none of this Sooners team laying 2 TDs against a good road team like the wildcats
 

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because OU is a great road team?
KState is overrated with a terrible coach?
OU is excited about playing again after losing out on an undefeated season and losing to Alabama in MNC game?


considering how sloppy OU played against KU, TT and part of the Mizzou game....I want none of this Sooners team laying 2 TDs against a good road team like the wildcats

isn't k-st @ home
 

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If they were a good team they would bounce back and crush KSU. I've seen nothing in the last 2-3 weeks that would say that this line is legitimate. I got on it at 14.5
 

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Before seeing the line, I knew I would be taking Oklahoma this week. They are a very emotional team, meaning that the big games (ie. Florida St and Texas) they get up for and play great and the teams they are supposed to kill (ie. Kansas and Tech) they play like horse shit. I think the loss will open their eyes and they will play inspired football. Now with that being said 2 tds is a lot to be laying on the road to an undefeated team. Seems to be like Vegas is begging for K-State money. OU is the play.
 

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Before seeing the line, I knew I would be taking Oklahoma this week. They are a very emotional team, meaning that the big games (ie. Florida St and Texas) they get up for and play great and the teams they are supposed to kill (ie. Kansas and Tech) they play like horse shit. I think the loss will open their eyes and they will play inspired football. Now with that being said 2 tds is a lot to be laying on the road to an undefeated team. Seems to be like Vegas is begging for K-State money. OU is the play.

looks like ur going to get a lot better line bet down to 13.5 now :0corn
 

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Stoops 5-5 ATS after his first loss of the season

wins over MTSU, IdahoSt, Baylor, Tulsa and most recently CU.

couldnt find anything there
 

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FWIW, k st has been undervalued by the linesmakers all season. they were a 3 or 4-point home dog against baylor and missouri. that means the linesmakers would have baylor and missouri favored by 7 or 8 on a neutral field. i'd say oklahoma would be favored over either of those teams by more than 10 on a neutral field. in fact, they were laying 20 at home against missouri just two weeks before missouri was laying 4 at kansas state. so if the linesmakers consider oklahoma roughly 16 points better than missouri on a neutral field (i'm using 4 points for home field), and missouri 8 points better than k st, in theory, oklahoma should be laying 24 to k st on a neutral field. subtract 4 for home field, and oklahoma "should" be laying 20 in this game. now, obviously, a few things have changed in the last 3 or 4 weeks. k st keeps winning, which makes them look stronger. and oklahoma lost last week. but are those two factors really worth more than 6 points in the line for this game? i doubt it.

anyway, all that leads us to.... while i fully agree that this line seems ridiculously high, and designed to draw k st money, this is in fact a "legitimate" line. it'll be interesting to see how the line moves this week. if it goes up, i might have to play oklahoma, because you wouldn't think joe q. public would be hammering oklahoma (for once). but if the line holds or drops, i wouldn't hesitate to play k st just because the line appears to be begging for k st money.

sorry for rambling on. i'm pretty tired. but i saw the thread and was very curious myself if the line was "legitimate". i'd say it appears so after digging into it a little bit.
 

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FWIW, k st has been undervalued by the linesmakers all season. they were a 3 or 4-point home dog against baylor and missouri. that means the linesmakers would have baylor and missouri favored by 7 or 8 on a neutral field. i'd say oklahoma would be favored over either of those teams by more than 10 on a neutral field. in fact, they were laying 20 at home against missouri just two weeks before missouri was laying 4 at kansas state. so if the linesmakers consider oklahoma roughly 16 points better than missouri on a neutral field (i'm using 4 points for home field), and missouri 8 points better than k st, in theory, oklahoma should be laying 24 to k st on a neutral field. subtract 4 for home field, and oklahoma "should" be laying 20 in this game. now, obviously, a few things have changed in the last 3 or 4 weeks. k st keeps winning, which makes them look stronger. and oklahoma lost last week. but are those two factors really worth more than 6 points in the line for this game? i doubt it.


KState is undervalued...continually crushing the spread.
Okla is overvalued.....they may have been 20 pt fave to mizzou but barely beat them by 10. they may have been a 38 point fave to KU but played poorly and only won by 31 (which sounds funny to type but KU is pitiful). they may have been a 28 point fave to TTech but..well they lost.


lines that existed a month ago would likely change based on what we know now. that's why power ratings change throughout the year. otherwise we'd just come up with lines before the season and stick with those each week instead of adjusting for team play, injuries, motivation, etc.

a ton of road chalk this week in cfb. should be interesting to see how it all pans out.

good luck
 

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KSt is the hardest team in the country to cap if you ask me. The only reason I can figure out is because Snyder is a master coach because the players just aren't that good. I had them big vs Baylor but was scared the whole game and felt like I backed a team that wasn't as good as the other team. I took Texas Tech at home thinking it was easy and it did look easy with Tech out gaining them by 200+yards and doubling their first downs but some how they get it done and just win. OU has great offense and with focus should put up a lot of points on KSt but if you take OU there is a good chance you will feel like you've been kicked in the balls by the end of it.
 
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