How Medicare saves our asses

Duff Miver

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Got a bill today from an ophthalmologist - simple, uncomplicated monovision lens implant, the cheapest kind there is.

His bill was $6673, for ten minutes work.

Medicare paid him $921. He is tickled pink, as he can do them at a rate of 20 per day.

So, let's get rid of Medicare so this guy can make $130,000 per day instead of just $18,000.
 

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Got a bill today from an ophthalmologist - simple, uncomplicated monovision lens implant, the cheapest kind there is.

His bill was $6673, for ten minutes work.

Medicare paid him $921. He is tickled pink, as he can do them at a rate of 20 per day.

So, let's get rid of Medicare so this guy can make $130,000 per day instead of just $18,000.

You wouldn't buy them.

JMO

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DuffMiver's new career.

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Call him DJ NUSS.

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Got a bill today from an ophthalmologist - simple, uncomplicated monovision lens implant, the cheapest kind there is.

His bill was $6673, for ten minutes work.

Medicare paid him $921. He is tickled pink, as he can do them at a rate of 20 per day.

So, let's get rid of Medicare so this guy can make $130,000 per day instead of just $18,000.

Interesting-- Ins co do same thing on prevailing(approved) rates--yet you whine like little bitch about them.

by the way--who ever complained about Medicare--there is a diff from Medicade.

Medicare is benefit- working folks paid into all their lives as well as SSN--

Medicade is the free loaders program--which most have prob with--

For some reason you have prob distinguishing the difference.:SIB
 

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Interesting-- Ins co do same thing on prevailing(approved) rates--yet you whine like little bitch about them.

by the way--who ever complained about Medicare--there is a diff from Medicade.

Medicare is benefit- working folks paid into all their lives as well as SSN--

Medicade is the free loaders program--which most have prob with--

For some reason you have prob distinguishing the difference.:SIB

Medicare always gets medical care at less cost than ANY private insurance company, and Medicare doesn't have to pay huge executive salaries and bonuses, shareholders dividends, and worthless leaches like you who suck up premium money.

Yes, I know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid (which I can spell).:mj07:
 
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Got a bill today from an ophthalmologist - simple, uncomplicated monovision lens implant, the cheapest kind there is.

His bill was $6673, for ten minutes work.

Medicare paid him $921. He is tickled pink, as he can do them at a rate of 20 per day.

So, let's get rid of Medicare so this guy can make $130,000 per day instead of just $18,000.

How is your vision now Duff?

I had a similiar procedure before I was 40 !

FUCK ! :facepalm:

Rapid degenerating cataracts or something like that? :shrug:

When driving at night, all the lights, especially brake lights, had halos around them. Add that to my migraines, that really sucked !

I had both lenses replaced, one month apart.

It improved my vision for distance, as for up close, computer, reading, boooo ! I cannot see a damn thing ! :scared

I hope this procedure fixed you up, regardless of the payment method. :toast:
 

Duff Miver

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How is your vision now Duff?

I had a similiar procedure before I was 40 !

FUCK ! :facepalm:

Rapid degenerating cataracts or something like that? :shrug:

When driving at night, all the lights, especially brake lights, had halos around them. Add that to my migraines, that really sucked !

I had both lenses replaced, one month apart.

It improved my vision for distance, as for up close, computer, reading, boooo ! I cannot see a damn thing ! :scared

I hope this procedure fixed you up, regardless of the payment method. :toast:

Actually it was Ann who had cataracts removed. She's now had both eyes done, and is seeing like an eagle, better than I see, and I'm 20/20 and 20/25.

She needs reading glasses, of course, but that's not a problem as she's used them for a long time.

Thanks to Medicare there are lots of folks who can now see well, but would not be able to if they had to fork over $14K for two eyes. :0074
 

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Actually it was Ann who had cataracts removed. She's now had both eyes done, and is seeing like an eagle, better than I see, and I'm 20/20 and 20/25.

She needs reading glasses, of course, but that's not a problem as she's used them for a long time.

Thanks to Medicare there are lots of folks who can now see well, but would not be able to if they had to fork over $14K for two eyes. :0074

Good for her ! :00hour

It was a very frustrating time for me, the doc told me that I had the vision of a 65+ year old. It was traced back to the mis-diagnosis of my migraines and the wrong overdose of meds I was on.

Good to hear she can see.

Imnagine being a shooter, one who loves to blow off steam at the range, responsibly and lose that ability ! Temporarily, but none the less, I was FUCKING TERRFIED for serveral months ! :scared
 

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Good for her ! :00hour

It was a very frustrating time for me, the doc told me that I had the vision of a 65+ year old. It was traced back to the mis-diagnosis of my migraines and the wrong overdose of meds I was on.

Good to hear she can see.

Imnagine being a shooter, one who loves to blow off steam at the range, responsibly and lose that ability ! Temporarily, but none the less, I was FUCKING TERRFIED for serveral months ! :scared

Ann is a long time and avid skeet shooter, and she's looking forward to running her first 100x100. I may have to pick my game up to stay with her.:shrug:
 

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Ann is a long time and avid skeet shooter, and she's looking forward to running her first 100x100. I may have to pick my game up to stay with her.:shrug:

your'e fucked ! :142smilie

long distance vision is awesome after the procedure.

Takes about 6 weeks, start practicing now. :SIB

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Medicare always gets medical care at less cost than ANY private insurance company, and Medicare doesn't have to pay huge executive salaries and bonuses, shareholders dividends, and worthless leaches like you who suck up premium money.

Yes, I know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid (which I can spell).:mj07:

Of course, Medicare gets a lower rate. This is not the free market at work - this is the government mandating a reimbursement schedule for docs and hospitals.

So, how do they stay in business? By inflating the cost in the private sector. It is called cost shifting (as I assume you didn't know this).

Yes, let's pay ALL docs and hospitals Medicare rates - private or public insurance.

Let's see how many are left. More importantly, you'd have likely waited 3-5 years for your procedure you had done, as while it may have been a hinderance, it was certainly not life threatening.

Medicare reimbursement is a joke - ask ANY doctor or hospital. Ask any of them if they will ONLY see Medicare patients - and not private patients.

You'll quickly find the answer is no. They depend on private insurance, with the higher costs they can charge, to be able to make ends meet.

And you pick on insurance agents - yet, I"m sure you have no problem using an auto/home/life insurance agent. Yet health insurance is more complex, and has a much greater potential impact on someone, than any other kind of insurance.

Sometimes you just don't make sense (well, most of the time)
 

Duff Miver

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Of course, Medicare gets a lower rate. This is not the free market at work - this is the government mandating a reimbursement schedule for docs and hospitals.

So, how do they stay in business? By inflating the cost in the private sector. It is called cost shifting (as I assume you didn't know this).

Yes, let's pay ALL docs and hospitals Medicare rates - private or public insurance.

Let's see how many are left. More importantly, you'd have likely waited 3-5 years for your procedure you had done, as while it may have been a hinderance, it was certainly not life threatening.

Medicare reimbursement is a joke - ask ANY doctor or hospital. Ask any of them if they will ONLY see Medicare patients - and not private patients.

You'll quickly find the answer is no. They depend on private insurance, with the higher costs they can charge, to be able to make ends meet.

And you pick on insurance agents - yet, I"m sure you have no problem using an auto/home/life insurance agent. Yet health insurance is more complex, and has a much greater potential impact on someone, than any other kind of insurance.

Sometimes you just don't make sense (well, most of the time)

As usual, Maggot, you're full of shit.

Our local hospital, which is a very large non-profit, finds that 40% of their patients are unable to pay, and it's all that money they subsidize with payments from private insurance. They find that Medicare pays enough.

Under universal health care, where all people are covered, they would be just fine with Medicare rates.

The local, smaller, for-profit hospital, which treats no non-paying patients would make smaller profits or go out of business. Too bad for them.

The Ophthalmologist does just fine with Medicare patients which are most of his business anyway.

And you full-of-shit insurance peddlers would have to find real jobs, a very good idea.
 

Mags

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Under universal health care, where all people are covered, they would be just fine with Medicare rates.
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OMG - not only are you a lot older than I thought, you are a lot dumber.

Why do you think the doc fix gets passed every year? If they are just fine with Medicare, then they'll implement the 20% decrease to physician rates immediately, as required by law - unless, of course, they pass another doc fix...

I know you think you are Cliff Clavin - but you really don't understand the health care system - other than being a user of Medicare.

And I'm not an insurance agent (not that there is ANYTHING wrong with being one).
 

Duff Miver

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OMG - not only are you a lot older than I thought, you are a lot dumber.

Why do you think the doc fix gets passed every year? If they are just fine with Medicare, then they'll implement the 20% decrease to physician rates immediately, as required by law - unless, of course, they pass another doc fix...

I know you think you are Cliff Clavin - but you really don't understand the health care system - other than being a user of Medicare.

And I'm not an insurance agent (not that there is ANYTHING wrong with being one).

Forget any 20% reduction, never has happened, never will happen.

Back to your roadkill. Eat up, Maggot.
 
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