Iraq Pre War Intelligence

hammer1

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Subject: Pre War Intelligence Saw Iraq Insurgency


Just like Bush I and his advisers foresaw the break up of Iraq if they marched on to Baghdad.Bush II was given the same information and had he asked his father instead of God he would have gotten the same response. Why anyone in his right mind would go into this cauldron and spill Amercan blood defys logic. At the very worst have some plan to deal with the insurgency. Bush ignored the advice of every General that testified during the Armed Services hearings about what would be needed... at a minimum 500,000 troops to face this. Mr Bush chose to disregard all of them and plunged us into this quagmire. He sent the fruit of our nation without adequate body armor and vehicles that were not fit for the roadside explosives that would make amputees of the soldiers now in Walter Reed Hospital.
Once a "C" student always a "C" student. Can u blame the rest of the world for not following George into the Abyss. Thousands of hours of phone transmissions untranslated sit at the National Security Agency and FBI untranslated because we dont have the translators or funding to do so. Is the plot that will destroy America in there. Explosives still smuggled on planes 3 years after 9-11. Osama Bin Laden living the Resort life in Iran thanks to U No anti-missile systems installed on our aircraft..Spanish speaking Al Quada cells crossing our border with Mexico daily casing targets all over the United States. Nuclear power plants guarded by sleeping $6.00 an hour security guards. Mr. Bush I doubt there will ever be
A MORE USELESS PRESIDENT as long as this nation exists. AL Quada cant wait till ur re-elected.they probably donated to your campaign. No one could ask for a more ignorant adversary. You look like Howdy Doody but I think he had more sense. I try and control the disgust i feel for u as a worthless life form but u tax all human endurance and understanding. Iran and North Korea are waiting for the "Army Ants" to devour the Anaconda in their jaws in Iraq. U made it so easy.










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U.S. Prewar Intelligence Saw Possible Iraq Insurgency

Tue Sep 28, 5:13 PM ET Top Stories - Reuters


By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. intelligence report before the Iraq (news - web sites) war warned that an American invasion could lead to rogue elements fighting the new Iraqi government and U.S. forces, sources familiar with the report said on Tuesday.






While the classified report did not call it an insurgency, it raised the possibility of guerrilla warfare in a postwar Iraq, sources said.


Intelligence reports compiled in January 2003 predicted that an American invasion would result in a divided Iraq prone to internal violence, and increased sympathy in the Islamic world for some terrorist objectives, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.


The assessments were compiled from the views of various intelligence agencies by the National Intelligence Council which reports to the CIA (news - web sites) director.


There was a "big stack" of prewar intelligence reports that said there was a high degree of possibility of insurgency and unrest, and that "winning the peace will be harder than winning the war," one source familiar with the reports said on condition of anonymity.


Another government source dismissed the significance of prewar predictions of unrest in a postwar Iraq. "Anybody who studied Iraq for a semester could say that was possible," the source said.


Since U.S.-led forces invaded Iraq last year, a persistent insurgency has developed, attacking American troops and Iraqis who are trying to create a new government.


"The president was very well aware of the challenges that we faced if the decision was made to go and remove Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) from power," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.


"He's also very well aware of the consequences of not acting to remove Saddam Hussein's regime and hold them accountable in a post-September 11th world," he said.


President Bush (news - web sites) has downplayed a National Intelligence Estimate prepared this summer which gave three outlooks for Iraq, the worst being civil war.


Bush first said that report was "guessing," and then said he should have instead called it an estimate. Bush also said the report talked about possibilities, not probabilities.
 

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So now there are 2 nations out there we know of having WMD's, but yet we are in a country where there are none. hopefully bush won't pull any wise crack jokes about looking for them like he did during the summer.
 

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hammer1 said:
Subject: Pre War Intelligence Saw Iraq Insurgency


Top Stories - Reuters

U.S. Prewar Intelligence Saw Possible Iraq Insurgency

Tue Sep 28, 5:13 PM ET Top Stories - Reuters


By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. intelligence report before the Iraq (news - web sites) war warned that an American invasion could lead to rogue elements fighting the new Iraqi government and U.S. forces, sources familiar with the report said on Tuesday.






While the classified report did not call it an insurgency, it raised the possibility of guerrilla warfare in a postwar Iraq, sources said.


Intelligence reports compiled in January 2003 predicted that an American invasion would result in a divided Iraq prone to internal violence, and increased sympathy in the Islamic world for some terrorist objectives, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.


The assessments were compiled from the views of various intelligence agencies by the National Intelligence Council which reports to the CIA (news - web sites) director.


There was a "big stack" of prewar intelligence reports that said there was a high degree of possibility of insurgency and unrest, and that "winning the peace will be harder than winning the war," one source familiar with the reports said on condition of anonymity.


Another government source dismissed the significance of prewar predictions of unrest in a postwar Iraq. "Anybody who studied Iraq for a semester could say that was possible," the source said.


Since U.S.-led forces invaded Iraq last year, a persistent insurgency has developed, attacking American troops and Iraqis who are trying to create a new government.


"The president was very well aware of the challenges that we faced if the decision was made to go and remove Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) from power," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

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hammer don't hurt em. sorry. couldnt help myself


Here's my opinion on the facts you provided above

Democrats and anyone else that sees war the way you do, have their hearts in the right place.
unfortunately, you cannot make decisions based solely on that. shit will go down. blood will spill
over fifty-one thousand Americans died fighting
the ethnic cleansing Germans in world war two.
that is a fact. In my heart, it hurts. In my head,
those soldiers did not die in vain. (Hitler had no evidence of WMDs :thinking: ) but he needed to be removed. Was he a threat to the US? ask yourself that. These are all things that do not require anything above a C average to realize.

Let me put it like this: When a companion animal with a concurrent flea infestation is Euthanized at A Veterinary office,
the fleas realize that this sick animal has died.
After a few minutes, the fleas detect that the
dog is dead and is now a bad host for them.
They stop crawling around in the fur, and become more active, mimicking a more abundant flea infestation than what was previously noticed. the moral of this story. Saddam was the dog. The radical insurgents are the fleas. what does this tell us?
"You roll with the dogs, you get the f..kin fleas"
when you guys read the paper or turn on the news: THINK CRITICALLY use introspect
do you think that we'd go traitsing in to Iraq
and it would be like disneyland?. It's F..king WAR
we must understand that. People will die on both sides. again. no C avg needed to know that.
It boils down to having the head and the balls
to stick this thing out. you can blame whoever you want but it was inevitable that those planes slammed into the wtc and pentagon. Hello? they hate us, not only bush, but us. you family, yourr coworkers, shit, maybe even the canadians.
lets quit pointing fingers at bush, gore, clinton, kerry etc and bear down and beat these ****ers! :bigun: FOR GODS SAKE, WAKE UP!!

Youre right (in a shooting yourself in the foot kinda
way) Winning war is easier than winning the peace.
however,we cannot be isolationists in a global economy.

from the front lines from the US ARMY TENTH MOUNTAIN BRIGADE: don't trust the media for information regarding iraq,
99 percent of the 50 million liberated Iraqis are glad we've ousted saddam and are helping them out. This is a fact. you guys know, if it bleeds, it leads. so every carbombing that the news is reporting is from a pissed off iraqi. Makes sense doesnt it? Again, boys, its NOT THAT SIMPLE, IT'S WAR. its not necessarily John Q insurgent car or suicide bombing, its not always the "70 young virgins they believe they'll get" My brother in law has witnessed coercive means have been used by the radical Muslim extremists.
John Q Iraq gets abducted and these cats tell him that if he doesnt bomb so and so or such and such, his entire family will die.




My sources:
The Actual Soldiers I personally know.
Bipartisan as well might I add.

thats the lunch bell you here ringing. dont forget your homework. :burnout TUMBLESPEED!
 

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It doesn't take a committee of brain surgeons to have figured out that an American invasion could trigger attacks by rogue groups opposing the new government. I am fairly certain that given the circumstances, my 10 year old grand son could have figured that one out. It isn't big news. Can you Mr. K Dogg21 or Hammer honestly say that YOU would not have predicted the same? Can you be certain that Manson would not have predicted the same? Do you really believe that Bush is too stupid to have anticipated that? Change the name of the country from Iraq to Bosnia, Viet Nam, Austria, you name it - the same thing would happen. Don't you suppose that if another country invaded the United States, there would be groups organizing to fight against the invaders and the government that was put in place? Oh, you say this actually did happen in the past? Ummm, I thought so.
 
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