Is it time......

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.....to ban Brazilian night clubs and Egyptian soccer matches????


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oh look, someone who doesn't grasp the point at all and uses this tired comparison as their argument for their precious guns.
 

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They probably wont ban the whole club, but they probably will ban the use of fireworks or pyrotechnics in the clubs.

What they will not do for sure is say more pyrotechnic and fireworks in the clubs will make them safer.
 

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Oh, I understand the point here.


Perhaps YOU don't.

Maybe I do not.

What does those tragic events have to with common sense being used with gun regulations?

But, hey I just see a tragedy you see an opportunity to try and make some asinine point.
 

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Oh, I understand the point here.


Perhaps YOU don't.


lets compare 2 things shall we?


1. Egyptian soccer matches

2. Guns


which of these has ONE use, and that use being to kill?

thats right dipshit, its guns.


are you so fucking stupid that you can't understand this or so fucking ignorant that you refuse to acknowledge it?

maybe a little of both?
 

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I am pretty pro gun, but I cringe when people use this straw man type logic. ?Ban-gate? stopped being thought provoking like the second time we all heard it. Yes yes, we understand, just because something bad happens doesn?t mean we must ban something.

The ironic thing is, when there is a fire at a dance club it often DOES result in changes to the industry that are similar to one?s being spoken of regarding firearms.
Namely, codes and rules are changed to assure that proper safety is built into a night-club.

So in a way, while it is a ridiculously lazy argument to make, it is even more so because the attention and change coming to firearms are probably ALSO coming to Brasil vis a vis nightclubs.
 

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airportis:

Your goat is here. I'll feed it for you.

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There are over 300 million guns in the US - in the hands of private citizens.

The % of those guns that cause homicide or mass homicide is statistically IRRELEVANT.

Ever think about that, you stupid KNOB?

HUH?


Guns don't kill people.

Crazy, mental unstable people kill people.

Criminals kill people.

If guns are so bad, why do we give them to cops and security officers to PROTECT US WITH THEM?


If guns are soo bad, why are there 11 ARMED security guards at the school that Pres Obama's kids goto.....11 ARMED guards not including the Secret Service - armed guards for all the elite kids?
Why is that ok? Why is that not teaching kids violence?

If guns are SOOOO bad, why in Feinstein's abortion of a law, are government officials STILL ALLOWED TO OWN THE BANNED ASSAULT WEAPONS?


Ignorant? Go suck on Obama's other testicle, you
low-IQ pussbag.
 

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Guns don't kill people.

yes they do.

so if someone is murdered and their cause of death is gun shot wound to the head, your ignorant 1 track minuscule little brain thinks that a gun did not do this?

did they throw the bullets then?

surely you cant be that much of a moron, but then again, your avatar is a picture of tits which either means you are making up for something you receive zero of, or that little flea brain of yours is very easily amused. I think once again, maybe it is a little of both with you.
 

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As Sponge's sig so eloquently puts it:

People who will give up their freedoms for security deserve neither.

Yeah, Trampled - I'm usually a bit more classy but you can call me what you will. Sticks and stones break bones but I guess only guns can kill.

:facepalm:


If you can't see the problems here, I'm not the one to show them to you.


Here's some light reading if anyone is interested.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-28/department-homeland-security-purchase-7000-assault-weapons


The real issue is that it doesn't matter what happens to Feinstein's law....even if it does not pass.
They have effectively demonized guns to the children in this country. It is only a matter of time until it does pass.

Guns are bad.
Any soda over 20 ounces in NY is bad
This food is bad
Wear your seatbelt

The list of what the government tells you to do is getting longer and longer.

The bigger the government, the smaller the individual.

Debate bullet v gun all you want, Airportis - people kill people. Crazy or criminal and regardless of all the gun control laws you want to pass - those 2 elements will STILL get their hands on weapons.
 

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Guns are bad.
Any soda over 20 ounces in NY is bad
This food is bad
Wear your seatbelt

The list of what the government tells you to do is getting longer and longer.

it is a shame. and its a shame because there are so many fucking idiots like you in the world that need things dumbed down to that extent because they cant figure out with their own fucking sense what is good and what is bad.

wear your seatbelt? really? this is a fucking issue for you? you are such a fucking tight ass that youre mad at the government because they tell you to wear a seatbelt so you dont go FLYING THROUGH YOUR FUCKING WINDSHIELD?

maybe if you spent more time worrying about real issues instead of looking to whine and complain like a pussy about every single thing anyone tells you to do. its not a fucking free for all circus. if you dont like it, get the fuck out. go live in some other country where seatbelts are optional, im sure youll love it. you can drive around guzzling your 80 ounces of sugar filled piss and stuffing your face full of mcnuggets while you drive 90 mph with no seatbelt on. youll really be living your dream!
 

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As Sponge's sig so eloquently puts it:

People who will give up their freedoms for security deserve neither.
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Debate bullet v gun all you want, Airportis - people kill people.

Well, ssd, we gave up our freedom to own full-auto guns eighty years ago. How does that make us less free?

The simple fact is that nearly all mass murders are committed with semi-auto, high capacity guns, and those killers would use full-auto if they had them. Those wack-jobs get turned on by the psuedo-military guns, gear and regalia.

When's the last time a mass murderer used a SxS or O/U shotgun, both of which are just fine for clay target shooting, bird hunting and self defense?

When's the last time a wanton mass killer used a four-shot bolt action rifle, which is actually superior to an "assault-style" rifle for both target shooting and hunting?

As you know, I own and shoot lots of guns, thousands of rounds a year. I'm no gun-banner. By the way, neither is Obama.

I am opposed to rapid fire, large magazine capacity guns and all the macho bullshit that goes with them. That shit is just a red flag for the mentally unstable sociopath, just like the assholes who show up at political rallies with their black rifles and "shed some blood" posters.

Assholes like this -

thistime.jpg


By the way, there were 11,000 firearm homicides in the USA last year, virtually all involved semi-auto
guns. How many were there in France? England? Australia? Germany? Canada?
 
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Well, ssd, we gave up our freedom to own full-auto guns eighty years ago. How does that make us less free?

The simple fact is that nearly all mass murders are committed with semi-auto, high capacity guns, and those killers would use full-auto if they had them. Those wack-jobs get turned on by the psuedo-military guns, gear and regalia.

When's the last time a mass murderer used a SxS or O/U shotgun, both of which are just fine for clay target shooting, bird hunting and self defense?

When's the last time a wanton mass killer used a four-shot bolt action rifle, which is actually superior to an "assault-style" rifle for both target shooting and hunting?

As you know, I own and shoot lots of guns, thousands of rounds a year. I'm no gun-banner. By the way, neither is Obama.

I am opposed to rapid fire, large magazine capacity guns and all the macho bullshit that goes with them. That shit is just a red flag for the mentally unstable sociopath, just like the assholes who show up at political rallies with their black rifles and "shed some blood" posters.

Assholes like this -

thistime.jpg


By the way, there were 11,000 firearm homicides in the USA last year, virtually all involved semi-auto
guns. How many were there in France? England? Australia? Germany? Canada?

Did hell freeze over?? Cause you and I actually agree on something. There is no logical reason whatsoever anyone "NEEDS" an AK47.. Oh so you are a law abiding collector?? Too fucking bad find something else to collect... If I wanted to collect Napalm could I??? Of course not? Does that mean my freedom was taken away..? Hello no. So collect all the bolt action rifles you can get your hands on. You dont need a machine gun..

Not hot on any govt going into homes and taking anything.. but production of these weapons needs to STOP.
 

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Ooooops....

Ooooops....

Part of a discussion from an article about the California school shooting. "Billy Shakespeare" lists a few recent accidental shootings. Scary!

BillyShakespeare Dutch_01 ? 20 days ago

Retired Cop Fatally Shoots Own Son, After Mistaking Him For Burglar
Michael Griffin, 48, was killed at his father?s home in the 5300 block of North Delphia Avenue.
Can't give you the link but it's easy to google.


BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

While you're at it maybe you can find out if this 5 year old girl was wearing a ski mask.
HOUSTON -- A 5-year-old girl's stepfather accidentally shot and killed the child after mistaking her for a burglar, according to law officers.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

NEW ORLEANS -- A 57-year-old New Orleans man was accidentally shot and fatally injured by his wife who mistook him for an intruder, police said
Monday.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

Husband Shoots At ?Intruder?, Turns Out To Be Wife
SOUTHWEST MIAMI-DADE (CBSMiami) ? A South Florida woman remains hospitalized after being accidentally shot by her husband.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

NATOMAS-The woman who was shot and killed by her boyfriend after reportedly being mistaken as an intruder has been identified.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

SC A 69-year-old Blacksburg man accidentally shot his own wife Tuesday morning when he fired through the front door of their home at what he
thought was an intruder, according to the Cherokee County Sheriff?s Office.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

Lot's more where those came from Dutch. Let's face it, the good old USA has become one Fuc*ed up paranoid country.
 

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Part of a discussion from an article about the California school shooting. "Billy Shakespeare" lists a few recent accidental shootings. Scary!

BillyShakespeare Dutch_01 ? 20 days ago

Retired Cop Fatally Shoots Own Son, After Mistaking Him For Burglar
Michael Griffin, 48, was killed at his father?s home in the 5300 block of North Delphia Avenue.
Can't give you the link but it's easy to google.


BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

While you're at it maybe you can find out if this 5 year old girl was wearing a ski mask.
HOUSTON -- A 5-year-old girl's stepfather accidentally shot and killed the child after mistaking her for a burglar, according to law officers.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

NEW ORLEANS -- A 57-year-old New Orleans man was accidentally shot and fatally injured by his wife who mistook him for an intruder, police said
Monday.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

Husband Shoots At ?Intruder?, Turns Out To Be Wife
SOUTHWEST MIAMI-DADE (CBSMiami) ? A South Florida woman remains hospitalized after being accidentally shot by her husband.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

NATOMAS-The woman who was shot and killed by her boyfriend after reportedly being mistaken as an intruder has been identified.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

SC A 69-year-old Blacksburg man accidentally shot his own wife Tuesday morning when he fired through the front door of their home at what he
thought was an intruder, according to the Cherokee County Sheriff?s Office.

BillyShakespeare ? 20 days ago

Lot's more where those came from Dutch. Let's face it, the good old USA has become one Fuc*ed up paranoid country.

Let's say, for sake of argument, that there are three types of gun homicides.

Type 1, which you illustrate, is an accidental shooting, by which I mean the shooter didn't want the victim dead. Shooting a family member because they came home late, pointing a "I didn't know it was loaded" gun, allowing children access to guns, mistaken identity.

Requiring all gun owners to receive training would help this. Many states now require professional training for a carry permit. Those folks don't much worry me, as they are usually responsible.

Type 2 I'll cal intentional killings: one gangsta kills another. I don't care about these. Both parties are criminals, so if one ends up dead, and the other in jail, it's a win/win. In the same category are legitimate self defense killings. An armed criminal puts you in fear of your life, so you shoot him. Point a gun at a cop, you die. No problem.

Type 3 are the fun killers, and this includes the mass murders, and the random drive-bys, killing people they don't even know because it gives these killers a stiffie. These types virtually always use semi-auto, high cap guns, even full auto when they can get them. Take away those "black guns" and you stop lots of those killings. When's the last time a gagnsta used a four-shout bolt action or a SxS shotgun?

"Assault" weapons are good for hunting? Pure bullshit. I now many serious big game hunters, and not one of them would use an AR-15 or .223 cartridge. They use real big game stuff, .270 or .30-'06 and highly accurate rifles. And the pistol marksmen? No Glock junk for them.

You're right, the gun owners are in many cases "fucked up". They believe themselves to be Rambos and have wet dreams about killing someone with their self-defense weapons.
 

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‎47 people died by getting hit by a MTA subway car in 2011. Currently, you can see an increased police presence on the platforms, and these officers writing court summons to anyone they observe standing in the yellow zone, end of the platform area. 1475 people have died since Sandy Hook (Dec. 14th) by the way of gun violence, and we can't even begin a serious conversation about what to do about the gun issue in this country.
 
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