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In the 1930 when there was about 200 million of us they had 20% unemployment. There are about 302 million of us now. And were now at 7% unemployment. And the guys that say they know state were going to 8% by end of January. And the super smart ones say we let the Auto Industry
die. You can count on it going to 12%. Were in a tough fix guys. Trickel realy didn't work well.
 

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In the 1930 when there was about 200 million of us they had 20% unemployment. There are about 302 million of us now. And were now at 7% unemployment. And the guys that say they know state were going to 8% by end of January. And the super smart ones say we let the Auto Industry
die. You can count on it going to 12%. Were in a tough fix guys. Trickel realy didn't work well.

The only thing that trickles down is piss. I don't see how bailing out the Autoworkers would be anything but a temporary help. I don't see how keeping these banks running so they can continue to foreclose, which is what they say caused all the problems, will help either. We first must help the home owners, then fix the health care industry. That is a start in my opinion. If any of these banks or automakers goes out someone will step up and fill the viod. This is looking like one huge cash grab at the expense of the working man once again.
 

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They are called "illegal aliens" for a reason. Wonder how many millions of jobs they have right now. I'm not talking about $5 hour jobs either. And throw in the jobs the millions have they pushed out.
 

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They are called "illegal aliens" for a reason. Wonder how many millions of jobs they have right now. I'm not talking about $5 hour jobs either. And throw in the jobs the millions have they pushed out.
Another thing hurting the working man that these politicians stay away from. How is a legit business supposed to compete with one that uses illegals for labor? Maybe that fraud Joe the Plumber should of asked Palin that.
 

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They are called "illegal aliens" for a reason. Wonder how many millions of jobs they have right now. I'm not talking about $5 hour jobs either. And throw in the jobs the millions have they pushed out.

so true:sadwave:
 

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They are called "illegal aliens" for a reason. Wonder how many millions of jobs they have right now. I'm not talking about $5 hour jobs either. And throw in the jobs the millions have they pushed out.

Interesting. As I recall, you support personal responsibility of individuals - and yet seem to blame "illegal aliens" for the unemployment rate in this country. Because, I guess, they have jobs here, which caused millions more to get "pushed out."

Who hired these illegal aliens? Why did they hire them? Did they fire legal "Americans" to hire them? How were these millions pushed out?

In no way am I defending the hiring of illegal aliens, quite the contrary. But you seem to blame them, and not the people who provide them the opportunity to "displace" others. I think it's a great idea to hold employers fully responsible for this situation - I wager most know fully well what the situation is - and the benefits they enjoy from reduced expenses and responsibilities.
 

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starts at the borders

We need mine fields, moats (spelling?) with alligators, large areas were the Air Force can practice bombing runs, target shooting for tanks, tracks of land with killer bees, bring back to life some dinosaurs and let them roam a whole chunk of the border, packs of hyenas and lions, killing zones for Crips and Bloods to have at it, and Raymond with a bat. All these should be run by the Mexicans most hated of all enemies...Puerto Ricans. They will surely perform at high levels.

Without them getting in here, we don't even make to problem #2, #3, etc
 

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There are jobs out there. I'm not sure how all of the unemployment shakes down but I can tell you this, it's hard for me to find employees. I have over 30 openings with clients of mine. The wages range from 12.00 an hour and up. The higher the wage the harder it is to find because of the qualifications but the jobs that pay between 12-15 an hour are the ones that kill me the most.

I think what happens in this situation is that when the economy isn't booming, employers cut back on the pay side. The employees and candidates have gotten use to a certain pay(and their bills are use to it as well) and then when the employers cut back the candidates won't take the jobs because they've made more in the past. It happens all the time now, someone I spoke with 3 months ago about a job that paid 14.00 an hour wouldn't take it because of the pay but now they're calling me asking if the job is still available because they're willing to take the 14. I'm not saying they're wrong for doing it but some pay is better than none and you can always keep looking once you start.
 

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I dominate anybody I compete against in my line of work. Especially wonderful top notch UNION labor.

Been at it over 20 years. Business has grown at least 10% a year every year. I'm up at least 25% to last years numbers. Split the biz once and will do it again in the near future.

I hire any and all comers. They need papers though. That has been a problem.

Any time you wanna match wits gambling Wocky, let me know. This is a gambling forum. We might wager the same sports.
 

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Those folks looking for workers to fill openings. You will get more help tomorrow Friday, about 400000 more. You can start by contacting AT&T, Dupont & 3m. Sounds likes about 24000 got it at those three this week. And I doupt they all came from south of the border. At least I don't think any of those companies need Roofers,Sod Layers,Cooks or Farm hands.
 

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At least I don't think any of those companies need Roofers,Sod Layers,Cooks or Farm hands.

Now there is were you and MANY others are DEAD WRONG!

These illegals take many more jobs away than just those of the menial variety. In Chicago, they bartend, are mechanics, own restaurants of all sorts, work in every kitchen of every high end restaurant, are tile setters and are in all the trades, truck drivers (license easily obtained from other states with weaker demands), tons in the concrete business, cable installation, vendor delivery for all variety of companies from bread to pop to tv's. And a miilion other mid level occupations I can't recall right now, all making very good money and mostly CASH. They then take the cash and invest in rental properties, bring more in, and work around the system with those people. Then the assholes march march march for more rights.

You are very wrong if you think Jose is just cutting lawns. Most of them won't even settle for that work.

I know many people in positions of higher authority in our local grocery chains. The Feds send letters to these large businesses who are in turn expected by law to hand each illegal a letter. The letter basically states the number/numbers they are using for proof of citizenship are bogus and they must answer and show valid info. Some of these people I have personally known for 15 to 20 years. All have full time gigs with full bennies, yes and there wonderful offspring use the bennies as well. They just shoot back to either Mexico (or where ever) and obtain new numbers. Continue along until the next gov audit. All the while they take jobs, use the system, send money back to the homeland, and breed like rabbits. Local hospitals CANNOT turn them away. They show NO INCOME and get a ton of money and other crap from our idiot mayor and county board president. They don't insure their vehicles. They live a million to a building, at least in the beginning. And their kids generally turn out like shit.

and fwiw...

It's a lot harder for us or even a Mexican to GET INTO Mexico than it is for them to get here.
 

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. And their kids generally turn out like shit.

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You're truely an angry person. I will say a lot of things but to bring kids in to it is just bs in my opinion. And yes, I have to deal with a lot of illegals here.
 

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. And their kids generally turn out like shit.


You're truely an angry person. I will say a lot of things but to bring kids in to it is just bs in my opinion. And yes, I have to deal with a lot of illegals here.[/QUOTE]

no

I live around a lot of cops. That's the general situation. Hate to break such angry news to you. Say what you want.
 

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So have you ever thought you just hear all of the bad news about these kids. Just hearing from "all the cops you live around" is about like watching the news. They don't talk about all of the good kids they see doing well in school and trying their hardest.(maybe because they don't encounter those kids because it's not part of their job) Wait maybe they do, I can't generalize because I really don't know.
 

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hey don't talk about all of the good kids they see doing well in school and trying their hardest.(maybe because they don't encounter those kids because it's not part of their job) Wait maybe they do, I can't generalize because I really don't know.

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neither does IO know

he is more full of shit than a christmas turkey
 

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Now there is were you and MANY others are DEAD WRONG!

These illegals take many more jobs away than just those of the menial variety. In Chicago, they bartend, are mechanics, own restaurants of all sorts, work in every kitchen of every high end restaurant, are tile setters and are in all the trades, truck drivers (license easily obtained from other states with weaker demands), tons in the concrete business, cable installation, vendor delivery for all variety of companies from bread to pop to tv's. And a miilion other mid level occupations I can't recall right now, all making very good money and mostly CASH. They then take the cash and invest in rental properties, bring more in, and work around the system with those people. Then the assholes march march march for more rights.

You are very wrong if you think Jose is just cutting lawns. Most of them won't even settle for that work.

I know many people in positions of higher authority in our local grocery chains. The Feds send letters to these large businesses who are in turn expected by law to hand each illegal a letter. The letter basically states the number/numbers they are using for proof of citizenship are bogus and they must answer and show valid info. Some of these people I have personally known for 15 to 20 years. All have full time gigs with full bennies, yes and there wonderful offspring use the bennies as well. They just shoot back to either Mexico (or where ever) and obtain new numbers. Continue along until the next gov audit. All the while they take jobs, use the system, send money back to the homeland, and breed like rabbits. Local hospitals CANNOT turn them away. They show NO INCOME and get a ton of money and other crap from our idiot mayor and county board president. They don't insure their vehicles. They live a million to a building, at least in the beginning. And their kids generally turn out like shit.

and fwiw...

It's a lot harder for us or even a Mexican to GET INTO Mexico than it is for them to get here.

i bartended and waited tables for over 6 yrs. he is telling the truth. the dish washer at our high end restaurant took the job, and sold drugs to make extra. everyone who worked at the res had benefits if they choose to. almost every mex in the place worked for a certain number of mos and then went back to mexico for a few mos. they always sent the money back. in the mean time, they did breed constantly. if they couldn't get a white girl pregnant they would settle for another latino. :sadwave:
 
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