Libs throw fit in Senate

Chadman

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I'm glad to see it. We know that the Republican controlled Senate would never push for accountability, nor a bi-partisan committee to study the issue. I'm glad democrats are making a stand on this issue that is of utmost importance to the American people. It says in the article that the Republicans could force the Senate back into open session with a majority vote, so that's what they should do.

There's no doubt they don't want attention to this issue, that's for sure. I'm glad the democrats are standing up for those of us who want to know the facts of the situation. It makes me proud.
 

dr. freeze

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hopefully they investigate what led Clinton to bomb weapons factories in Iraq

hopefully they investigate why almost the whole Senate voted for the war

etc. etc.

these pondscum either have short memories or they are completely intellectually dishonest

as far as i can remember, most of these loons had their power back then too
 

djv

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Smart move on there part. Lead into all new story today were about this. Then the bird flu talk of Bush and then supreme court.
Dems got the subject right back where they want it. I would say they are watching the polls close. Americans want to know who's been ling the most. No one believes it was just Scooter.
 

kosar

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dr. freeze said:
hopefully they investigate what led Clinton to bomb weapons factories in Iraq

hopefully they investigate why almost the whole Senate voted for the war

etc. etc.

these pondscum either have short memories or they are completely intellectually dishonest

as far as i can remember, most of these loons had their power back then too

Not sure that bombing Iraqs weapon factories is exactly the same as invading, occupying and hopelessly trying to change the political system of a country and as a result has cost us 2,000+ young men and women, maimed another 15k or so and costs us 5 billion a month.

The senate did not 'vote for the war', they authorized the president to use force based on the information they were given and as a last resort. Big difference.

I wouldn't think anybody would have a problem with an investigation into exactly what the admin knew to be true and what they knew to be false and what, if anything, they made up.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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"I wouldn't think anybody would have a problem with an investigation into exactly what the admin knew to be true and what they knew to be false and what, if anything, they made up."

In agreement there Matt. Saw something this morning in some remote paper that someone in Egypt (I believe) is now claiming Saddam and Sons agreed to go into exlile in the 11 th hour and were ignored.
Now THAT would be a biggy if correct.
 

gardenweasel

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apparently every intelligence service around the world skewed the intelligence in the same manner as the administartion...because they all thought saddam had a nuclear program....to go along with his chemical and biological stockpiles....

which,btw,weren`t destroyed in front of the corrupt u.n. inspectors...yet managed to disappear......

that issue has never been reconciled...

wonder where they went?....and why saddam didn`t dismantle the chems and bio`s in front of the u.n. and the world....i think that would have helped him....don`t you?...

he went as far as to bribe u.n. officials....but,not so far as to let the inspectors have cart blanche for inspections....

instead,when they insisted on seeing certain areas and facilities,he balked...he stalled...he went so far as to kick inspectors out....

i wonder why?...he had nothing to hide...his regime was in jeopardy....why not come clean?....if he had nothing to hide?....

was he that stupid?....of course not....

he was smart enough to bribe officials...to get around the oil for food program.....

i believe that his stalling tactics gave him the time to hide or remove whatever he had...

why...if nothing was there...why not throw open the doors?....as south africa had....kazakhstan had....the ukraine...

it appeared that saddam 's goal was to get the sanctions lifted while retaining as much military power as possible....the russia,france and germany were pushing to get the bogus sanctions lifted...

he thought that the bought and paid for u.n. could run interference for him..get sanctions lifted....and he could retrieve his stockpiles when the heat was once again off....


after all...it worked for way over a decade....

maybe he didn`t have the weapons...maybe they weren`t buried in the desert...or spirited off to syria.....

the evidence...from our decimated intelligence agencies(thanks to the frank church`s and jamie gorelick`s of the world) along with those from around the world.....along with saddam`s reluctance to cooperate with u.n. resolution 1441.....pointed toward obfuscation by saddam....

was the invasion a mistake?...maybe....

reasonable people can disagree...
 
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