Liebermans Iraq Plan

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Interview by Imus...



Lieberman?s Iraq Strategy
By: John Amato on Friday, January 19th, 2007 at 3:30 PM - PST
So the Last honest man's strategy is to hope and pray and then think of something else while our men and women are dying and countless of Iraqis are being slaughtered in Iraq. Plan B is non existent just like the BushCO. approach to the Iraq war after we won the initial military conflict. You are a very sad man indeed.

Lieberman: Let's hope it works, pray it works, and if it doesn't, then we'll figure out what we're gonna do then."

MSNBC:

Imus: "Well what happens when this doesn't work which is what is going to happen."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Well, let's hope and pray it works."

Imus: "No, I know but it's not going to."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "No?"

Imus: "Well you have to face reality Senator. It's not going to work. Maliki is not going to jump ugly with Al Sadr, he owes his seat to his support. Everybody knows that. He's already dragging his feet. He's contemptuous of, it's like loaning money to relatives, he's contemptuous of U.S. support anyway, Maliki is, so what happens next when none of this works?"


Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah in fairness some of the stuff he says I think is said for local, domestic consumption but there is no question that he and most of them involved in politics and frankly most of the people, know that they want us out but not now, that's the story. Not everybody can understand they don't want an occupying force but they know that the place really would fall apart. There would be open armed civil war and the Iranians would come in and dominate a good part of the country, so let's hope and pray it works."

Moments later ?

Imus: "With all do respect, though, Senator."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yes, sir."

Imus: "You really haven't answered, well not really, you haven't answered my question, and my question is what happens, what's plan B? What happens?"

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah."

Imus: "?When this doesn't work?"

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah."

Imus: "I know we hope and pray it does work. Of course we do."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah"

Imus: "I hope and pray I win the lottery."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah you do. And I hope and pray you win the lottery, too, cause you'd probably give a lot of it away."

Imus: "Give all of it away. I'd have to."

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "You probably would."

Imus: "Well, anyway, what happens when it doesn't work?"

Sen. Joe Lieberman: "Yeah, well, you know, we will then look at the situation and decide what we can do, and the alternatives are limited here. The other alternatives?the main alternative that the opponents of what the President has done are offering is to simply begin to withdraw. And the theory there is that somehow if you with? I mean some people want to withdraw because they just want to get out. They think the thing?They want to give up. They think the thing is not winnable. I'm afraid they don't agree with me that the consequences of pulling out would be a disaster for everybody, including most important, us. But some say if you begin to withdraw, then Maliki and the other Iraqis will say 'Oh, my God, they're leaving. We got to get our act together. I don't think so. I think what is more likely is that the Iraqi politicians will begin to hedge their bets, and the militias and the Al Qaeda terrorists will just hold back until the day we're gone, and then chaos will break out, and unfortunately as McCain says, we'll probably be back there in a larger war, you know, two, three, four, five years from now. I think this is our chance, so I'd guess I'd say to you in war?There's a famous old saying that war is a series of catastrophes that ends up in victory for one side, and right now I'd say this plan is the best next step we've got. Let's hope it works, pray it works, and if it doesn't, then we'll figure out what we're gonna do then." End

BOTTOM LINE IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL, these hack politicians got us into a Vietnam in the sand, how many are going to pay the ultimate price till we evacuate?

 

[IntenseOperator]

Boy can that white man dance

 

[The Sponge]

He is a lap dog for Isreal and nothing else. If their were no Isreal he would not be supporting this.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"BOTTOM LINE IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL, these hack politicians got us into a Vietnam in the sand, how many are going to pay the ultimate price till we evacuate"

The bottom line if you read it again is Imus has no hope no answer but failure/retreat and he and liberal media as you see by his tone would llike nothing better- so they can come back as in vietnam and say WE lost another.

I will say with absolute certainty our troops and miltary can not be defeated --only those with no heart and "Imus" attitudes and fear can--and the sadest part is they think as in vietnam retreat is a victory for them.

They don't want to tell you what defense cuts--intel cuts--do nothing attitude cost us--

 

[danmurphy jr]

And the Holocaust goes on. Shame-Shame-Shame

 

[The Sponge]

"BOTTOM LINE IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL, these hack politicians got us into a Vietnam in the sand, how many are going to pay the ultimate price till we evacuate"

The bottom line if you read it again is Imus has no hope no answer but failure/retreat and he and liberal media as you see by his tone would llike nothing better- so they can come back as in vietnam and say WE lost another.

I will say with absolute certainty our troops and miltary can not be defeated --only those with no heart and "Imus" attitudes and fear can--and the sadest part is they think as in vietnam retreat is a victory for them.

They don't want to tell you what defense cuts--intel cuts--do nothing attitude cost us--

Dream on dog dream on. How do you know that if we pulled back this would be a bad thing? The majority of Iraq's don't want us there and nobody but clowns like you think democrats want to pull back because we are scared. Those wonderful words for our military are just blow hard words. Our military is defeated and its that simple. Aqua-man superman, batman and every other super hero couldn't win that shit war you Neocons got us trapped into wasting billions of dollars of our money. Its a no win situation and we can't win. I mean there has to become a time when you finally wake up and smell the coffee.. You can't possible be fooled another two years could you. When are you gonna learn that when your neocon buddies fired General Shinseki because of their devious motives, we lost the war right there.

 

[djv]

Heck Imus asked him a fair question. His answer is weak but he did his best. Pray. Then what. I don't know we will take a look. That's how we been fighting this thing already. Last time I looked it's not working. Dam we train all these good soldiers and use them like idiots. Christ sake bring back some generals that have a idea how to end this. Were starting to make it look like the place was in better shape with Saddam in power. Adding 21000 more men to help look over 6 million people is such a joke. Especially when Iraq's leaders are of little help.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Sponge I see you have same attitude as Imus--hmm maybe you could form an Amous and Andy duo for liberals--might I suggest calling program--Imus and Anus :142smilie

On serious note: You want to know diff between a liberal and conservative or in this case you and I.

Given: You don't care for GW and I didn't care for Bill.
You are upset we don't retreat and are complacent with failure--I was upset we did retreat and could not accept failure--and such is life!

 

[StevieD]

Dogs, you are not a Conservative. You are a Neocon and there is a big difference.

 

[The Sponge]

Sponge I see you have same attitude as Imus--hmm maybe you could form an Amous and Andy duo for liberals--might I suggest calling program--Imus and Anus :142smilie

On serious note: You want to know diff between a liberal and conservative or in this case you and I.

Given: You don't care for GW and I didn't care for Bill.
You are upset we don't retreat and are complacent with failure--I was upset we did retreat and could not accept failure--and such is life!

Like stevie said you have no clue what a conservative is. You my friend are a clueless neocon. Now you can throw around your silly labels all you want because the boys at Fox tell you this is what to do, but someone with an IQ higher than a cueball can see right thru this. As for Iraq im upset that a bunch of crooks fooled a bunch of clueless citizens into going to Iraq under the guise of terrorism. these crooks you blindly follow don't give two dicks about these Iraq's. They never have and they never will but when they have fools who believe its about their freedom rant you can get away with stuff like this. I love when you neocons ask "what's the democrats plan?" Im wondering did you ever in your life mess up something real bad and then ask someone else for their plan on fixing your mess? You pride yourself i think on being self sufficent so i would think you and your buddies would think of a way to get out of the mess your people and no one else started. If we retreat the only people who will lose is the thieves you stand behind. They wont have anyone to protect them while they are stealing. another 13 dead today lets stay the coarse.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Like I told you before Stevie according to defintion conservative--neocon both fit me well--only thing that wouldn't fit would be somes definition that to be Neocon you have to have been liberal prior--and that would be most errant description.

Somehow you think neocon is as negative a tag as liberal--but got surprise for you--you are only person that thinks that--

I personally think below is quite accurate description of myself--thank you

per wikipedia---

Neoconservative: Definition and views
According to Irving Kristol, the founder and "god-father" of Neoconservatism, there are three basic pillars of Neoconservatism:

1. Economics: Cutting tax rates in order to stimulate steady, wide-spread economic growth and acceptance of the necessity of the risks inherent in that growth, such as budget deficits, as well as the potential benefits, such as budget surpluses.
2. Domestic Affairs: Preferring strong government but not intrusive government, slight acceptance of the welfare state, adherence to social conservatism, and disapproval of counterculture
3. Foreign Policy: Patriotism is a necessity, world government is a terrible idea, the ability to distinguish friend from foe, protecting national interest both at home and abroad, and the necessity of a strong military.

 

[StevieD]

Dogs, if you didn't think Neocon was a negative you would not be calling youself a conservative. Maybe you should read Pat Buccanon about how the Neocons stole his party. It doesn't matter what you think. What matters is what is real. And Neocons and Conservatives are two different animals.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Stevie You can call me what ever you choose--as long as its not liberal

 

[StevieD]

Stevie You can call me what ever you choose--as long as its not liberal

Oh, but you Neocons embrace so many liberal ideas! How do conservatives feel about a deficeit? How do Conservatives feel about attacking countries to spread democracy?

 

[The Sponge]

Oh, but you Neocons embrace so many liberal ideas! How do conservatives feel about a deficeit? How do Conservatives feel about attacking countries to spread democracy?

Stevie is their such a thing as a puppetocon? Or maybe a phonyocon? Maybe sheepocon

 

[StevieD]

Stevie is their such a thing as a puppetocon? Or maybe a phonyocon? Maybe sheepocon

I pledge allegiance to my country Sponge. I got a feeling you do to. It seems like some pledge allegiance to George Bush.

 

[djv]

Soon they will be saying George who? Time flies.