please excuse spelling npt doing good,
well to explain whats is going on as best as i can and in as short as i can is what this will before.
i am not having a fight with jack i was alittle up set with him and so was jeri,the reason was someone choose to steal the name of a friend of myvisionary about a week ago somewhere and went off on me pretty good as well as about 4 other names.
as i said some where else and to and to jack this upset me with what was being said,being that visionary was my friend really hurt,so some words where exchanged over this .
then it came clear yesterday what was going on with the help of others,. i got about15-20 emails saying jack was talking very bad behind my back and another oerson from somewhere was doing it to they were things called hot mails.
well there was a hidden agenda behind these, cannot say who because donot have total proof yet. but a person in the business wrote me and said that had followed what was going on and that most all of the stuff written sounded to close to each other at both places and was done to hurt each fourm traffic wise and try to bring them down to for their own intrest.
then barfly and i talked for a good hour and he explained what a hotmail was,because i wrote back to these people to see where they heard this and some of the things that were said were very hurtful not normal bashing,well they all came back saying undelived mail by post maters or something like that,john told me how and what this was for.
had a few people really going off but they starteted to go to far and people started to see they sounded to much alike. so it was said by a good source that it was a few people wiyh lot of screen names doing this to upset both places,really dont know business end of a fourm but these people do and knew how to hurt anther persons form which would cost and could cost lots of money in the long run,it was an attack more against jacks site and somewhere else more then me,they think visionary got pulled in because he wrote allot and people seemed to like him so his name was stolen for that reason and used. well after a few people got to gether and with me is was clear what and why this was going on,it was a attemp to stir up fourms in hopes people would leave,but thanks to one person they really broke it and the hotmails was the major down fall
i at that point didnot know who to belive or trust which was hard on me cause jack is my friend and a clean business person and visionary i thought was a friend which by the way i know he is now,he had nothing to do with it his post made it look like the real deal.so visionary sorry for what i said about you after reading the fake post because it hurt thinking a friend would say things like that,but it wasnot him.
and then john barfly sealed it up last night after we sorted through all of the happenings him doing most of the work cause he can tell you it is hard for me to even speak or think clear.
so the story is this was a attemp to hurt jack and his name as well as somewhere else for personal and finical gain of somebody else.
a few point i want to make and i am guilty as the next guy at times .
bare with me get off trcak here at times,i am still posting here and will still rate plays and tell you when its a tip,but as far as record and how much up or down for day week ect that willnot be given
this is a site toshare info to win against the business because they have an edge on all of us.
noone is better then the next person we all have good days we all have bad days but this is a team when a person os in a slump your teammate will carry you and thats what a team does,anyone that makes a post witha play with or with out reason is a winner because they are taking the time to share in hopes of helping.
records create trouble because it turns it into me against you or you against the next guy so i am against that and that is my reason for no more of it,if you watch and are cold everyone goes through streaks you should be able to know who is hot by just watching and tiger does a great job to let us know how is hot and that is why he takes the time to do the fourm recaps to help others out who might be going through a slow streak.
as for who is the best this comes up allot well noone is like i said there is only a best for one day. if you want to know who the best is even told jack this,look towards ie becuse of all his reshearch and tech support to help us,data base matchups stats.it takes lots of time to do that and he works i would say just my feeling from what we get on our date base a good 12-14 hours ady most days,and so does jack and they both have to watch the board to make sure things are said in a proper manner and i am the first to admit that i say things the wrong way allot,and sometimes they come out diffrerent then i mean but at other times the come out how i mean and that is wrong. its ok to disagree that makes for a good thought out game matbe there is something that i or you over looked,it isnot a personal attack most of the time it is something some one thought we might of just over looked thats all.
so that is the story remember without team work willnot win you might short term but not the whole thing,i would much reather have 9 avg starters that work well as a team then 3 superstars,becuse the 9 guys working to gether will win in the end.
there is way more to the business of a site then most of us know or need to know,some things were shared with me that i wouldnot even think that would go on,yes this is a business and when you have a good one which jack does people will try to copy,hurt or take from it so always read with an open mind and know there are some that try to go between the line.
baseball is very long and always seems to draw out the worse in all of us at one point or anthoer because its so long,i will work on this and maybe a few others could do before biting someone head off walk awy take a time out because nothing gets done right when you are upset,i know for me i say things that i donot mean when i am mad,and then am fine five mins. later well if thats the case if i would just backoff and take that walk cool down then chances are somethings wouldnot be said at all
good luck. and sorry visionary for fireing back at you showed of knowen it wasnot the real you. and dont be mad at ray either he didnot know all of this just what he read and we spoke like 3 days ago he was just tking up for me because he knew i was having troubles thinking stright but didnot get to tell him what was uncoverd if he new that he would of not said any thing because he is very laid back.
thanks to barfly for wrapping up lose ends and thanks x i know you see this.
have a good day.
well to explain whats is going on as best as i can and in as short as i can is what this will before.
i am not having a fight with jack i was alittle up set with him and so was jeri,the reason was someone choose to steal the name of a friend of myvisionary about a week ago somewhere and went off on me pretty good as well as about 4 other names.
as i said some where else and to and to jack this upset me with what was being said,being that visionary was my friend really hurt,so some words where exchanged over this .
then it came clear yesterday what was going on with the help of others,. i got about15-20 emails saying jack was talking very bad behind my back and another oerson from somewhere was doing it to they were things called hot mails.
well there was a hidden agenda behind these, cannot say who because donot have total proof yet. but a person in the business wrote me and said that had followed what was going on and that most all of the stuff written sounded to close to each other at both places and was done to hurt each fourm traffic wise and try to bring them down to for their own intrest.
then barfly and i talked for a good hour and he explained what a hotmail was,because i wrote back to these people to see where they heard this and some of the things that were said were very hurtful not normal bashing,well they all came back saying undelived mail by post maters or something like that,john told me how and what this was for.
had a few people really going off but they starteted to go to far and people started to see they sounded to much alike. so it was said by a good source that it was a few people wiyh lot of screen names doing this to upset both places,really dont know business end of a fourm but these people do and knew how to hurt anther persons form which would cost and could cost lots of money in the long run,it was an attack more against jacks site and somewhere else more then me,they think visionary got pulled in because he wrote allot and people seemed to like him so his name was stolen for that reason and used. well after a few people got to gether and with me is was clear what and why this was going on,it was a attemp to stir up fourms in hopes people would leave,but thanks to one person they really broke it and the hotmails was the major down fall
i at that point didnot know who to belive or trust which was hard on me cause jack is my friend and a clean business person and visionary i thought was a friend which by the way i know he is now,he had nothing to do with it his post made it look like the real deal.so visionary sorry for what i said about you after reading the fake post because it hurt thinking a friend would say things like that,but it wasnot him.
and then john barfly sealed it up last night after we sorted through all of the happenings him doing most of the work cause he can tell you it is hard for me to even speak or think clear.
so the story is this was a attemp to hurt jack and his name as well as somewhere else for personal and finical gain of somebody else.
a few point i want to make and i am guilty as the next guy at times .
bare with me get off trcak here at times,i am still posting here and will still rate plays and tell you when its a tip,but as far as record and how much up or down for day week ect that willnot be given
this is a site toshare info to win against the business because they have an edge on all of us.
noone is better then the next person we all have good days we all have bad days but this is a team when a person os in a slump your teammate will carry you and thats what a team does,anyone that makes a post witha play with or with out reason is a winner because they are taking the time to share in hopes of helping.
records create trouble because it turns it into me against you or you against the next guy so i am against that and that is my reason for no more of it,if you watch and are cold everyone goes through streaks you should be able to know who is hot by just watching and tiger does a great job to let us know how is hot and that is why he takes the time to do the fourm recaps to help others out who might be going through a slow streak.
as for who is the best this comes up allot well noone is like i said there is only a best for one day. if you want to know who the best is even told jack this,look towards ie becuse of all his reshearch and tech support to help us,data base matchups stats.it takes lots of time to do that and he works i would say just my feeling from what we get on our date base a good 12-14 hours ady most days,and so does jack and they both have to watch the board to make sure things are said in a proper manner and i am the first to admit that i say things the wrong way allot,and sometimes they come out diffrerent then i mean but at other times the come out how i mean and that is wrong. its ok to disagree that makes for a good thought out game matbe there is something that i or you over looked,it isnot a personal attack most of the time it is something some one thought we might of just over looked thats all.
so that is the story remember without team work willnot win you might short term but not the whole thing,i would much reather have 9 avg starters that work well as a team then 3 superstars,becuse the 9 guys working to gether will win in the end.
there is way more to the business of a site then most of us know or need to know,some things were shared with me that i wouldnot even think that would go on,yes this is a business and when you have a good one which jack does people will try to copy,hurt or take from it so always read with an open mind and know there are some that try to go between the line.
baseball is very long and always seems to draw out the worse in all of us at one point or anthoer because its so long,i will work on this and maybe a few others could do before biting someone head off walk awy take a time out because nothing gets done right when you are upset,i know for me i say things that i donot mean when i am mad,and then am fine five mins. later well if thats the case if i would just backoff and take that walk cool down then chances are somethings wouldnot be said at all
good luck. and sorry visionary for fireing back at you showed of knowen it wasnot the real you. and dont be mad at ray either he didnot know all of this just what he read and we spoke like 3 days ago he was just tking up for me because he knew i was having troubles thinking stright but didnot get to tell him what was uncoverd if he new that he would of not said any thing because he is very laid back.
thanks to barfly for wrapping up lose ends and thanks x i know you see this.
have a good day.
