Loss of Jobs

[djv]

Bush spokeman on Imus this morning said. Job lost started way back in 1990. Thats when the 1st Bush was in office. What I tell you about the Republicans. They will eat there own to get to the top.
But you have to go father and read inside that remark. Now they can blame it all on Clinton. And ofcurse they will. This group in power right now will not take resposibility for anything. Unless it looks good.
They smeer everyone even there own.

 

[Nosigar]

 

[Iowa Child]

:thefinger

 

[mjalam]

:thefinger

only because it is true

 

[AR182]

djv quote:" What I tell you about the Republicans. They will eat there own to get to the top"


that was very funny!!!

 

[dr. freeze]

how many of these jobs pay more than welfare that we are losing?

why such the big deal when we manage jobs overseas? seems like a great plan to me

the whole country has been moving upward in standard of living for the last 50 years greatly because of this and you want it stopped?

i dont get it.....

 

[kcwolf]

I'm not going to get into politics. IF I were, I would blame how either party ramrods their party's control to seek their particular agenda to seek more seats. I'm sick of it!!

As to another comment, and have no agenda with anyone:

Hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs have been lost over several years now in my small town of 400,000.

I live in the "Air Capital of the World". Our economy is devastated, as we rely on the aircraft industry. Just a couple of small companies are here: Raytheon (Beechcraft), Lomabardier(sp) ?(Learjet), Textron (Cessna), and Boeing.

My small point has to do with unions involved in the aircraft industry.

I'm a firm believer that unions were needed in the early 1900's, probably late 1800's. Owners of companies abused workers for a very long time, maybe all the way into the 1990's???? A very great reason why unions were formed and used correctly til I don't no when.

I still, probably, think some unions have there place. But government regulations over recent years (and recent is relative) have negated some of the reasons why unions some still need to exist, talking only on my limited experience with my city's experience with aircraft unions.

Some unions have lost there focus, and are burning bridges with employers. One very small example: when you strike over a small health insurance increase, when everyone I now is is paying more for insurance out of pocket, I don't get it?

I realize I'm rambling a bit, but I hope you get the point that I will end with.

I know several people that make $20 to $45 per hour, and brag about working second and third shifts, sleeping half the time or more. Janitors all the way up to high tech jobs that make me worry about flying. They all have more benifits than I could ever imagine.

That's a company problem for sure, but was it compounded by that particular union?

Boeing Wichita, who employed 24,000 workers at one time, is looking at selling a huge plant. When it happens, all those workers sleeping on the job, with great benefits will wake up. And it's not going to be sold to a US company.

Wake up to losing houses, boats, you name it.

Jobs will continue to be lost because we have had it too good for too long, me included. Let's recognize our situation and not always blame these humougous comglomerates.

I see both sides, but.

 

[TBONEZ0295]

sorry for the :topic: but I had to say hi to some one ...............

HI KC WOLF

how have you been? Its great to see you around

 

[djv]

K C yes some have taken it to far. But I just cant blame the American worker in general. That of course makes us all quilty. I just hate to see these jobs go replaced by Wall Mart every 2 miles. $6:50 dont cut it. You dont see any CEO lineing up to take cuts. I see doc's just keep moving into bigger houses. Insurance and oil men are rakeing it in off of our hard work.
In a strange way uinions may be needed more then ever.

 

[kcwolf]

A very big hi to TBone!!!!!!!

djv, you bring up a very good point with Walmart. But something I have struggled with for a long time, hating the corporate giant, but who is at fault?

Us consumers, and don't take this as "above everyone as far as ME" type attitude. I refuse to go to Walmart, but being in a larger city, I might have more options than the small towns, and I feel sorry for my relatives/friends that I know are forced to use Kmart/Walmart or whatever. They have their place, of course.

Walmart is the corporate giant we all want to hate. Small town, small business's have been destroyed, talked about all the time.
But I guess we love them.

I talk to people all the time who miss that special, personalized service from there local hardware store, and on and on with local resturants, what have you.

Well wake up people, you were the ones who didn't support your local businesses that went out of bussiness, to run to the out skirts of your town. It cost you $1.39 in gasoline to save $1.39.

Us consumers are the idiots.

 

[maverick2112]

how many of these jobs pay more than welfare that we are losing?

A lot of these jobs are decent paying jobs in the US and become low paying jobs overseas...(Computer jobs etc)

I dont see how any loss of jobs for america being a good thing for the country...............

 

[Senor Capper]

Chicago Council Defers Wal-Mart Decision

Chicago Council Defers Wal-Mart Decision

CHICAGO - The City Council put off a vote Wednesday on zoning changes that would allow Wal-Mart to build its first Chicago stores, citing concerns that the discount chain would pay low wages and hurt established businesses.


Four of the council's 50 aldermen moved to postpone action until May 26 on two proposed 150,000-square-foot stores ? one in a poor neighborhood on the West Side, the other in a largely middle-class section of the South Side.


"Every report that I have shows that there is a negative impact on the businesses in the service area around a Wal-Mart store," said Alderman Freddrenna Lyle, whose ward is on the South Side.


The Rev. Michael Pfleger led about 200 demonstrators in chanting anti-Wal-Mart slogans outside City Council chambers.


"There's this idea out there that we should be happy with any jobs thrown our way," Pfleger said. "That's a victim mentality. That's a slave mentality."


Wal-Mart's "big-box" stores have encountered similar resistance in other communities around the country.


John Bisio, a Wal-Mart community affairs executive, said the City Council's action was not a defeat for the Bentonville, Ark.-based company.


"It is an opportunity for Wal-Mart to continue to tell our story, that we do provide good salaries and benefits," he said. "That we are creating jobs with these projects."


Proponents of Wal-Mart, such as the Rev. C.L. Sparks, whose church is in the largely poor Austin neighborhood targeted by the retailer, said residents there have grown weary of traveling miles to shop for bargains.


He added that low-paying jobs are better than no jobs at all.