Martial Law, here is proof of it
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bet we won't hear about it on the news.....libral fucking news
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bet we won't hear about it on the news.....libral fucking news
Reuters/Kim Hong A U.S. Army soldier takes his position as he takes part in a U.S.-South Korea joint live-fire military exercise at a training field in Pocheon, south of the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas, March 25, 2015.
BASTROP, Texas ? The office of the Bastrop County Republican Party is in an old lumber mill on Main Street, with peeling brown paint and a sign out front that captures the party?s feelings about the Obama administration: ?WISE UP AMERICA!?
Inside, county Chairman Albert Ellison pulled out a yellow legal pad on which he had handwritten page after page of reasons why many Texans distrust President Obama, including the fact that, ?in the minds of some, he was raised by communists and mentored by terrorists.?
So it should come as no surprise, Ellison said, that as the U.S. military prepares to launch one of the largest training exercises in history later this month, many Bastrop residents might suspect a secret Obama plot to spy on them, confiscate their guns and ultimately establish martial law in one of America?s proudly free conservative states.
They are not ?nuts and wackos. They are concerned citizens, and they are patriots,? Ellison said of his suspicious neighbors. ?Obama has really painted a portrait in the minds of many conservatives that he is capable of this sort of thing.?
Across town at the Bastrop County Courthouse, such talk elicits a weary sigh from County Judge Paul Pape, the chief official in this county of 78,000 people. Pape said he has tried to explain to folks that the exercise, known as Jade Helm 15, is a routine training mission that poses no threat to anyone.
Pape chaired a public meeting this spring and invited a U.S. Army Special Operations Command spokesman to answer questions about Jade Helm. The meeting drew more than 150 people carrying signs that read ?No Gestapo in Bastropo,? ?Keep America Free? and ?Dissent is Not a Conspiracy Theory.? Some asked whether the Army was bringing in Islamic State fighters, if the United Nations would be involved, and whether the military was planning to relieve local gun owners of their firearms.
?I?m sensitive to the fact that some of our Bastrop residents are concerned, and I?m confident that they are very sincere about their concerns,? Pape said. ?But how did we get to this point in our country??
Race and economic anxiety
Here in the soft, green farmlands east of Austin, some say the answer is simple: ?The truth is, this stems a fair amount from the fact that we have a black president,? said Terry Orr, who was Bastrop?s mayor from 2008 to 2014.
Orr said he strongly disagrees with those views, and he supports Jade Helm. But he said a significant number of people in town distrust Obama because they think he is primarily concerned with the welfare of blacks and ?illegal aliens.?
?People think the government is just not on the side of the white guy,? Orr said.
The current Bastrop mayor, Kenneth Kesselus, who also supports Jade Helm, agrees. Kesselus said the distrust is due in part to a sense that ?things aren?t as good as they used to be,? especially economically. ?The middle class is getting squeezed and they?ve got to take it out on somebody, and Obama is a great target.?
Dock Jackson, 62, an African American who has been on the Bastrop City Council for 24 years, grew up when the town was still segregated, literally by railroad tracks. Today, Bastrop is 34 percent Hispanic and 8 percent black, and a wonderful place to live, he said, a place where the races generally get along.
But the Jade Helm backlash has been a ?red flag? that our county ?still has a lot of things they need to come to terms with,? Jackson said, including the anger and disrespect being directed at the president.
At a recent family reunion at a Bastrop community center, Mark Peterson, who is black, said he has been ?shocked? by what he views as racist undertones in much of the objection to Jade Helm.
?What I hate to hear most is, ?We want to take our country back.? This is still your country. Where did it go?? said Peterson, 42, a technology manager for a financial firm in Austin. ?If it were any other president but Obama, it would not be an issue.?
?What are they doing it here for??
Jade Helm?s troubles started with a map, released by the military, which depicted the area of operations. It showed seven southwestern states colored red for ?hostile? (including Texas) and blue for ?permissive? (including California). The map sent the conspiracy-minded into overdrive.
At the public hearing this spring, military spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria explained that those designations are part of a fictional scenario: Jade Helm is intended to simulate U.S. Special Forces helping resistance fighters restore democracy in an imaginary country. The operation?s logo, which features a Dutch wooden shoe, is meant to represent anti-Nazi resistance in World War II Europe.
Lastoria patiently answered questions for nearly three hours, explaining that while Jade Helm would involve 1,200 troops across seven states, no more than 60 would be training in Bastrop County. Moreover, the Texas operation would be confined to military bases ? including Camp Swift, a large Army National Guard base in Bastrop ? as well as private property where the military had secured the landowners? permission.
?All service members take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we put our lives on the line every day to uphold that oath,? he said. ?So for people to come up with irrational ideas and try to associate them with the United States military, it does our troops a disservice.?
The hearing failed to tamp down the paranoia, however. Ellison, the GOP chairman, said ?the fear factor is justified.?
Obama ?doesn?t take national threats seriously enough,? Ellison said, ticking off Obama?s policies toward Russia, Iran, Cuba and the Islamic State, as well as illegal immigration across the U.S. southern border and the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya.
?What he views as alarming instead is conservatism,? Ellison said, alleging that the Obama administration has used the Internal Revenue Service to attack the Tea Party and other conservative groups, been hostile to gun owners, issued what conservatives consider an illegal executive order to avoid deporting illegal immigrants, and ?been complicit in stirring riots? in racially charged situations in Ferguson, Mo., and Baltimore.
?The Obama administration has a history of attacking Texas,? on issues from education standards to environmental regulations to Obamacare, he said. ?It?s not that much of a leap to believe that he would try to employ the military like he does the IRS.?
Others suspect Obama wants to establish martial law to cancel the 2016 presidential elections and extend his term in office. Terry Wareham, head of the Bastrop County Tea Party, said she fears that the Obama administration might deliberately instigate violence between soldiers and Texans as a pretext for establishing martial law.
?We?re not against the military. This community is very supportive of the military,? Wareham said. ?But who?s the commander in chief of the military??
A ?toxic? politics
Some in Bastrop dismiss the talk of martial law as the delusional rantings of saucer-eyed loons. But others see it as the logical outcome of the Texas political climate, where they say the state?s Republican leaders have eagerly stoked distrust of the federal government, and especially of Obama.
?They are trying to convince people the federal government is coming after them,? said state Sen. Kirk Watson, a Democrat who represents Bastrop County.
Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has ordered the Texas State Guard to ?monitor? Jade Helm 15. And Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican presidential hopeful, has said he understands ?the reason for concern and uncertainty, because . . . the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration.?
?They say the government is coming after you,? Watson said, ?so why would you be surprised if the government shows up with guns??
Carol Schumacher, a Bastrop artist whose property backs up onto Camp Swift, laughed when asked about the Jade Helm conspiracy theorists.
?I think those people are crazy,? she said. ?I?m more worried about them taking over.?
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here they come hedge
get your gun and hide:scared
BASTROP, Texas ? The office of the Bastrop County Republican Party is in an old lumber mill on Main Street, with peeling brown paint and a sign out front that captures the party?s feelings about the Obama administration: ?WISE UP AMERICA!?
Inside, county Chairman Albert Ellison pulled out a yellow legal pad on which he had handwritten page after page of reasons why many Texans distrust President Obama, including the fact that, ?in the minds of some, he was raised by communists and mentored by terrorists.?
So it should come as no surprise, Ellison said, that as the U.S. military prepares to launch one of the largest training exercises in history later this month, many Bastrop residents might suspect a secret Obama plot to spy on them, confiscate their guns and ultimately establish martial law in one of America?s proudly free conservative states.
They are not ?nuts and wackos. They are concerned citizens, and they are patriots,? Ellison said of his suspicious neighbors. ?Obama has really painted a portrait in the minds of many conservatives that he is capable of this sort of thing.?
Across town at the Bastrop County Courthouse, such talk elicits a weary sigh from County Judge Paul Pape, the chief official in this county of 78,000 people. Pape said he has tried to explain to folks that the exercise, known as Jade Helm 15, is a routine training mission that poses no threat to anyone.
Pape chaired a public meeting this spring and invited a U.S. Army Special Operations Command spokesman to answer questions about Jade Helm. The meeting drew more than 150 people carrying signs that read ?No Gestapo in Bastropo,? ?Keep America Free? and ?Dissent is Not a Conspiracy Theory.? Some asked whether the Army was bringing in Islamic State fighters, if the United Nations would be involved, and whether the military was planning to relieve local gun owners of their firearms.
?I?m sensitive to the fact that some of our Bastrop residents are concerned, and I?m confident that they are very sincere about their concerns,? Pape said. ?But how did we get to this point in our country??
Race and economic anxiety
Here in the soft, green farmlands east of Austin, some say the answer is simple: ?The truth is, this stems a fair amount from the fact that we have a black president,? said Terry Orr, who was Bastrop?s mayor from 2008 to 2014.
Orr said he strongly disagrees with those views, and he supports Jade Helm. But he said a significant number of people in town distrust Obama because they think he is primarily concerned with the welfare of blacks and ?illegal aliens.?
?People think the government is just not on the side of the white guy,? Orr said.
The current Bastrop mayor, Kenneth Kesselus, who also supports Jade Helm, agrees. Kesselus said the distrust is due in part to a sense that ?things aren?t as good as they used to be,? especially economically. ?The middle class is getting squeezed and they?ve got to take it out on somebody, and Obama is a great target.?
Dock Jackson, 62, an African American who has been on the Bastrop City Council for 24 years, grew up when the town was still segregated, literally by railroad tracks. Today, Bastrop is 34 percent Hispanic and 8 percent black, and a wonderful place to live, he said, a place where the races generally get along.
But the Jade Helm backlash has been a ?red flag? that our county ?still has a lot of things they need to come to terms with,? Jackson said, including the anger and disrespect being directed at the president.
At a recent family reunion at a Bastrop community center, Mark Peterson, who is black, said he has been ?shocked? by what he views as racist undertones in much of the objection to Jade Helm.
?What I hate to hear most is, ?We want to take our country back.? This is still your country. Where did it go?? said Peterson, 42, a technology manager for a financial firm in Austin. ?If it were any other president but Obama, it would not be an issue.?
?What are they doing it here for??
Jade Helm?s troubles started with a map, released by the military, which depicted the area of operations. It showed seven southwestern states colored red for ?hostile? (including Texas) and blue for ?permissive? (including California). The map sent the conspiracy-minded into overdrive.
At the public hearing this spring, military spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria explained that those designations are part of a fictional scenario: Jade Helm is intended to simulate U.S. Special Forces helping resistance fighters restore democracy in an imaginary country. The operation?s logo, which features a Dutch wooden shoe, is meant to represent anti-Nazi resistance in World War II Europe.
Lastoria patiently answered questions for nearly three hours, explaining that while Jade Helm would involve 1,200 troops across seven states, no more than 60 would be training in Bastrop County. Moreover, the Texas operation would be confined to military bases ? including Camp Swift, a large Army National Guard base in Bastrop ? as well as private property where the military had secured the landowners? permission.
?All service members take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we put our lives on the line every day to uphold that oath,? he said. ?So for people to come up with irrational ideas and try to associate them with the United States military, it does our troops a disservice.?
The hearing failed to tamp down the paranoia, however. Ellison, the GOP chairman, said ?the fear factor is justified.?
Obama ?doesn?t take national threats seriously enough,? Ellison said, ticking off Obama?s policies toward Russia, Iran, Cuba and the Islamic State, as well as illegal immigration across the U.S. southern border and the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya.
?What he views as alarming instead is conservatism,? Ellison said, alleging that the Obama administration has used the Internal Revenue Service to attack the Tea Party and other conservative groups, been hostile to gun owners, issued what conservatives consider an illegal executive order to avoid deporting illegal immigrants, and ?been complicit in stirring riots? in racially charged situations in Ferguson, Mo., and Baltimore.
?The Obama administration has a history of attacking Texas,? on issues from education standards to environmental regulations to Obamacare, he said. ?It?s not that much of a leap to believe that he would try to employ the military like he does the IRS.?
Others suspect Obama wants to establish martial law to cancel the 2016 presidential elections and extend his term in office. Terry Wareham, head of the Bastrop County Tea Party, said she fears that the Obama administration might deliberately instigate violence between soldiers and Texans as a pretext for establishing martial law.
?We?re not against the military. This community is very supportive of the military,? Wareham said. ?But who?s the commander in chief of the military??
A ?toxic? politics
Some in Bastrop dismiss the talk of martial law as the delusional rantings of saucer-eyed loons. But others see it as the logical outcome of the Texas political climate, where they say the state?s Republican leaders have eagerly stoked distrust of the federal government, and especially of Obama.
?They are trying to convince people the federal government is coming after them,? said state Sen. Kirk Watson, a Democrat who represents Bastrop County.
Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has ordered the Texas State Guard to ?monitor? Jade Helm 15. And Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican presidential hopeful, has said he understands ?the reason for concern and uncertainty, because . . . the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration.?
?They say the government is coming after you,? Watson said, ?so why would you be surprised if the government shows up with guns??
Carol Schumacher, a Bastrop artist whose property backs up onto Camp Swift, laughed when asked about the Jade Helm conspiracy theorists.
?I think those people are crazy,? she said. ?I?m more worried about them taking over.?
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here they come hedge
get your gun and hide:scared
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"I was a young man in my 20s, and I had enjoyed a lot of success," Cruz said, "Almost everything I'd laid my hands to had gone well. And I was far too cocky for my own good."
At the end of the successful campaign, he said, "I desperately wanted to have a senior job in the White House. Frankly, I wanted to be ? Michael J. Fox's character in 'The American President,' a young, idealistic staffer in the Oval Office, saying, 'Mr. President, do the right thing.'"
"And that didn't happen, and it became clear it wasn't going to happen because I had burned too many bridges," Cruz continued. He went on to say that in retrospect, he is grateful he didn't get the job, because he never would have been able to run his grassroots 2012 Senate campaign if he hadn't learned a little humility. "You can't run a grassroots campaign if you're an arrogant little snob," he said. "I needed to get my teeth kicked in."
Despite the proverbial teeth-kicking, Cruz arrived in Washington in 2013 with plenty of confidence and bravado still remaining. During his two years in the Senate so far, Cruz has led a failed nationwide campaign to defund Obamacare, and played a pivotal role in engineering the 2013 government shutdown, an event widely seen as having damaged the Republican Party.
As a fiery ideologue, it came as little surprise that when Cruz was asked to name a quality he admired about Obama, he said, "I admire that he's a true believer."
"There are some people in the grassroots who ascribe bad motives to him, and I will often dispute that," Cruz continued. "I think he believes in all of his heart in his principles. I think he fights for them, relentlessly, and if I were a leftist, I would love Barack Obama because he has advanced the left-wing progressive agenda more than any president in history."
As far as Cruz is concerned, "the problem is the ideas [Obama] believes are profoundly dangerous, that millions of Americans have been hurt by exploding government regulations and taxes have taken away jobs and opportunity. But I admire that he stands and fights for his principles."
So far, however, Cruz's national reputation as a zealous tea party Republican has failed to translate into public support in the 2016 GOP presidential primary. Cruz is averaging eighth place in a crowded field, with just 4.7 percent of the vote.
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problem for Teddy is that he still is a arrogant little snob
he is a canadian
and he is a nut wing far right
At the end of the successful campaign, he said, "I desperately wanted to have a senior job in the White House. Frankly, I wanted to be ? Michael J. Fox's character in 'The American President,' a young, idealistic staffer in the Oval Office, saying, 'Mr. President, do the right thing.'"
"And that didn't happen, and it became clear it wasn't going to happen because I had burned too many bridges," Cruz continued. He went on to say that in retrospect, he is grateful he didn't get the job, because he never would have been able to run his grassroots 2012 Senate campaign if he hadn't learned a little humility. "You can't run a grassroots campaign if you're an arrogant little snob," he said. "I needed to get my teeth kicked in."
Despite the proverbial teeth-kicking, Cruz arrived in Washington in 2013 with plenty of confidence and bravado still remaining. During his two years in the Senate so far, Cruz has led a failed nationwide campaign to defund Obamacare, and played a pivotal role in engineering the 2013 government shutdown, an event widely seen as having damaged the Republican Party.
As a fiery ideologue, it came as little surprise that when Cruz was asked to name a quality he admired about Obama, he said, "I admire that he's a true believer."
"There are some people in the grassroots who ascribe bad motives to him, and I will often dispute that," Cruz continued. "I think he believes in all of his heart in his principles. I think he fights for them, relentlessly, and if I were a leftist, I would love Barack Obama because he has advanced the left-wing progressive agenda more than any president in history."
As far as Cruz is concerned, "the problem is the ideas [Obama] believes are profoundly dangerous, that millions of Americans have been hurt by exploding government regulations and taxes have taken away jobs and opportunity. But I admire that he stands and fights for his principles."
So far, however, Cruz's national reputation as a zealous tea party Republican has failed to translate into public support in the 2016 GOP presidential primary. Cruz is averaging eighth place in a crowded field, with just 4.7 percent of the vote.
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problem for Teddy is that he still is a arrogant little snob
he is a canadian
and he is a nut wing far right
place where the races generally get along.
But the Jade Helm backlash has been a ?red flag? that our county ?still has a lot of things they need to come to terms with,? Jackson said, including the anger and disrespect being directed at the president.
At a recent family reunion at a Bastrop community center, Mark Peterson, who is black, said he has been ?shocked? by what he views as racist undertones in much of the objection to Jade Helm.
?What I hate to hear most is, ?We want to take our country back.? This is still your country. Where did it go?? said Peterson, 42, a technology manager for a financial firm in Austin. ?If it were any other president but Obama, it would not be an issue.?
?What are they doing it here for??
Jade Helm?s troubles started with a map, released by the military, which depicted the area of operations. It showed seven southwestern states colored red for ?hostile? (including Texas) and blue for ?permissive? (including California). The map sent the conspiracy-minded into overdrive.
At the public hearing this spring, military spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria explained that those designations are part of a fictional scenario: Jade Helm is intended to simulate U.S. Special Forces helping resistance fighters restore democracy in an imaginary country. The operation?s logo, which features a Dutch wooden shoe, is meant to represent anti-Nazi resistance in World War II Europe.
Lastoria patiently answered questions for nearly three hours, explaining that while Jade Helm would involve 1,200 troops across seven states, no more than 60 would be training in Bastrop County. Moreover, the Texas operation would be confined to military bases ? including Camp Swift, a large Army National Guard base in Bastrop ? as well as private property where the military had secured the landowners? permission.
?All service members take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we put our lives on the line every day to uphold that oath,? he said. ?So for people to come up with irrational ideas and try to associate them with the United States military, it does our troops a disservice.?
The hearing failed to tamp down the paranoia, however. Ellison, the GOP chairman, said ?the fear factor is justified.?
Obama ?doesn?t take national threats seriously enough,? Ellison said, ticking off Obama?s policies toward Russia, Iran, Cuba and the Islamic State, as well as illegal immigration across the U.S. southern border and the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya.
?What he views as alarming instead is conservatism,? Ellison said, alleging that the Obama administration has used the Internal Revenue Service to attack the Tea Party and other conservative groups, been hostile to gun owners, issued what conservatives consider an illegal executive order to avoid deporting illegal immigrants, and ?been complicit in stirring riots? in racially charged situations in Ferguson, Mo., and Baltimore.
?The Obama administration has a history of attacking Texas,? on issues from education standards to environmental regulations to Obamacare, he said. ?It?s not that much of a leap to believe that he would try to employ the military like he does the IRS.?
Others suspect Obama wants to establish martial law to cancel the 2016 presidential elections and extend his term in office. Terry Wareham, head of the Bastrop County Tea Party, said she fears that the Obama administration might deliberately instigate violence between soldiers and Texans as a pretext for establishing martial law.
?We?re not against the military. This community is very supportive of the military,? Wareham said. ?But who?s the commander in chief of the military??
A ?toxic? politics
Some in Bastrop dismiss the talk of martial law as the delusional rantings of saucer-eyed loons. But others see it as the logical outcome of the Texas political climate, where they say the state?s Republican leaders have eagerly stoked distrust of the federal government, and especially of Obama.
?They are trying to convince people the federal government is coming after them,? said state Sen. Kirk Watson, a Democrat who represents Bastrop County.
Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has ordered the Texas State Guard to ?monitor? Jade Helm 15. And Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican presidential hopeful, has said he understands ?the reason for concern and uncertainty, because . . . the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration.?
?They say the government is coming after you,? Watson said, ?so why would you be surprised if the government shows up with guns??
Carol Schumacher, a Bastrop artist whose property backs up onto Camp Swift, laughed when asked about the Jade Helm conspiracy theorists.
?I think those people are crazy,? she said. ?I?m more worried about them taking over.?
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here they come hedge
get under your bed
But the Jade Helm backlash has been a ?red flag? that our county ?still has a lot of things they need to come to terms with,? Jackson said, including the anger and disrespect being directed at the president.
At a recent family reunion at a Bastrop community center, Mark Peterson, who is black, said he has been ?shocked? by what he views as racist undertones in much of the objection to Jade Helm.
?What I hate to hear most is, ?We want to take our country back.? This is still your country. Where did it go?? said Peterson, 42, a technology manager for a financial firm in Austin. ?If it were any other president but Obama, it would not be an issue.?
?What are they doing it here for??
Jade Helm?s troubles started with a map, released by the military, which depicted the area of operations. It showed seven southwestern states colored red for ?hostile? (including Texas) and blue for ?permissive? (including California). The map sent the conspiracy-minded into overdrive.
At the public hearing this spring, military spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria explained that those designations are part of a fictional scenario: Jade Helm is intended to simulate U.S. Special Forces helping resistance fighters restore democracy in an imaginary country. The operation?s logo, which features a Dutch wooden shoe, is meant to represent anti-Nazi resistance in World War II Europe.
Lastoria patiently answered questions for nearly three hours, explaining that while Jade Helm would involve 1,200 troops across seven states, no more than 60 would be training in Bastrop County. Moreover, the Texas operation would be confined to military bases ? including Camp Swift, a large Army National Guard base in Bastrop ? as well as private property where the military had secured the landowners? permission.
?All service members take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we put our lives on the line every day to uphold that oath,? he said. ?So for people to come up with irrational ideas and try to associate them with the United States military, it does our troops a disservice.?
The hearing failed to tamp down the paranoia, however. Ellison, the GOP chairman, said ?the fear factor is justified.?
Obama ?doesn?t take national threats seriously enough,? Ellison said, ticking off Obama?s policies toward Russia, Iran, Cuba and the Islamic State, as well as illegal immigration across the U.S. southern border and the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya.
?What he views as alarming instead is conservatism,? Ellison said, alleging that the Obama administration has used the Internal Revenue Service to attack the Tea Party and other conservative groups, been hostile to gun owners, issued what conservatives consider an illegal executive order to avoid deporting illegal immigrants, and ?been complicit in stirring riots? in racially charged situations in Ferguson, Mo., and Baltimore.
?The Obama administration has a history of attacking Texas,? on issues from education standards to environmental regulations to Obamacare, he said. ?It?s not that much of a leap to believe that he would try to employ the military like he does the IRS.?
Others suspect Obama wants to establish martial law to cancel the 2016 presidential elections and extend his term in office. Terry Wareham, head of the Bastrop County Tea Party, said she fears that the Obama administration might deliberately instigate violence between soldiers and Texans as a pretext for establishing martial law.
?We?re not against the military. This community is very supportive of the military,? Wareham said. ?But who?s the commander in chief of the military??
A ?toxic? politics
Some in Bastrop dismiss the talk of martial law as the delusional rantings of saucer-eyed loons. But others see it as the logical outcome of the Texas political climate, where they say the state?s Republican leaders have eagerly stoked distrust of the federal government, and especially of Obama.
?They are trying to convince people the federal government is coming after them,? said state Sen. Kirk Watson, a Democrat who represents Bastrop County.
Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has ordered the Texas State Guard to ?monitor? Jade Helm 15. And Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican presidential hopeful, has said he understands ?the reason for concern and uncertainty, because . . . the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration.?
?They say the government is coming after you,? Watson said, ?so why would you be surprised if the government shows up with guns??
Carol Schumacher, a Bastrop artist whose property backs up onto Camp Swift, laughed when asked about the Jade Helm conspiracy theorists.
?I think those people are crazy,? she said. ?I?m more worried about them taking over.?
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here they come hedge
get under your bed
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The demented paranoia of extreme right-wing Texans has soared to new heights this year, and they haven?t let up yet. Headlines were made around the country when Texans began worrying about upcoming military exercise in the Southwest United States, dubbed ?Jade Helm 15″, and conspiracy theorists began asserting that it was really a ruse for President Obama to ?impose martial law? and ?take over Texas?. Despite multiple assurances from the armed forces, the fear that the military is up to ?something funny,? possibly involving the confiscation of their guns or aerial chem-trails that will ?turn people gay?.
As usual, the people of Texas cannot rely on their elected legislators to contribute anything productive to the absurd debate. Governor Greg Abbot has called up a state militia, of which Texas apparently has several, to monitor the US army as they undergo their training, which is set to open next week. Joining them, reports the Houston Chronicle, will be hundreds of civilians from both Arizona and Texas who have nothing better to do than to wander around the desert ?supervising? one of the best militarizes in the world. ?Obviously on a military base they can do whatever they want. But if they?re going to train on public land we have a right as American citizens to watch what they?re doing? says Eric Johnston, who is organizing the ?Counter Jade Helm? movement through a Facebook page, which is, as you might imagine, full of delusional little gems like the following:
What?s possibly the most astonishing part about this story is that it won?t go away. No matter what kind of reassurances are offered from the government, people refuse to believe it. This is what eight years of constant FOX News xenophobia and paranoia will do to people. The fact that people still give credence to these kinds of absurd conspiracies really speaks to the disillusionment of neo cons like hedghog and that bunch.
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:142smilie:142smilie
nuff said about nut cases in America
you dont have to sign up hedge, you are one
As usual, the people of Texas cannot rely on their elected legislators to contribute anything productive to the absurd debate. Governor Greg Abbot has called up a state militia, of which Texas apparently has several, to monitor the US army as they undergo their training, which is set to open next week. Joining them, reports the Houston Chronicle, will be hundreds of civilians from both Arizona and Texas who have nothing better to do than to wander around the desert ?supervising? one of the best militarizes in the world. ?Obviously on a military base they can do whatever they want. But if they?re going to train on public land we have a right as American citizens to watch what they?re doing? says Eric Johnston, who is organizing the ?Counter Jade Helm? movement through a Facebook page, which is, as you might imagine, full of delusional little gems like the following:
What?s possibly the most astonishing part about this story is that it won?t go away. No matter what kind of reassurances are offered from the government, people refuse to believe it. This is what eight years of constant FOX News xenophobia and paranoia will do to people. The fact that people still give credence to these kinds of absurd conspiracies really speaks to the disillusionment of neo cons like hedghog and that bunch.
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:142smilie:142smilie
nuff said about nut cases in America
you dont have to sign up hedge, you are one
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) argued Wednesday that the United States should pass immigration reform because the U.S. economy needs the labor of young immigrants, and immigrants are "more fertile."
"Immigrants create far more businesses than native-born Americans," Bush said at the Faith and Freedom Coalition's Road to the Majority conference. "Immigrants are more fertile, and they love families, and they have more intact families, and they bring a younger population. Immigrants create an engine of economic prosperity."
Bush said immigrants are an advantage that the United States has over China, Europe and Japan, which don't have the same immigrant tradition and are struggling to find young laborers.
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and this is their best chance to beat Hills
"Immigrants create far more businesses than native-born Americans," Bush said at the Faith and Freedom Coalition's Road to the Majority conference. "Immigrants are more fertile, and they love families, and they have more intact families, and they bring a younger population. Immigrants create an engine of economic prosperity."
Bush said immigrants are an advantage that the United States has over China, Europe and Japan, which don't have the same immigrant tradition and are struggling to find young laborers.
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and this is their best chance to beat Hills
talk about a fucking sellout, that would be Jeb Bush...illegal immigrants should all be deported and a wall built around the United States :0008
It's coming, get ready for King Obama, all the pieces are in place now, these refugees that are being dropped off in the US, it's all part of the plan...
hedgehog
Signing out of politics
I don't like who I have become in this forum, it's become way too personal, I am not a bad guy I am sure all of you are not bad guys either even FDC, Im signing off for a while, you guys enjoy
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i am forced to post this everytime I see you in politics until 2016
you never learn to keep your big mouth shut
NO POSTING UNTIL THE TIME IS UP
