Mich-MSU Thoughts

CWood97

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I want to preface this by saying I am not playing UM here. But, I already see a couple on MSU, and I want to post a few stats that may be interesting to Sparty backers:

MSU has played 4 good/decent teams this year (3-1 SU and ATS)

ND

Total yds ND 302 Sparty 300
First Downs ND 20 Sparty 15
Sparty INT return for TD off Holiday

LaTech

Total Yds LaTech 497 Sparty 361
McKnown 436 yds 3 TD 2 Int
LaTech 3 FUMBLES LOST

Iowa

Total Yds Iowa 265 Sparty 263
Fred Russell 122 yds (5.3 carry)
Iowa 3 FUMBLES LOST

Minny

Total Yds Minny 525 Sparty 413
Kaliq 27/40 377 yds 2 TD 0 INT
Sparty Kick Return for TD
Minny 3 FUMBLES LOST

Some more stats:

Navarre: 61% for 292 yds/game, 6 tds and 2 picks in last 4.

UM vs spread offenses (Houston, Purdue) opponents have gained 190 ypg, scored 3 ppg, completed 48% of their passes and averaged 124 ypg passing.

UM is first in the Big Ten vs the pass (efficiency) and 2nd (pass yards).

MSU is 85th in the nation in rushing


My main point here is that while they're a good team, Sparty has had a lot of breaks go there way this year, and those things tend to even out over time. Furthermore, this could be a really bad matchup for them, based on the fact they are a good passing team but poor rushing team, and UM's strength is defending the pass.

UM's struggles on the road and particularly in East Lansing are keeping me from playing them here, but I also will not back Sparty.

Also for total players, the weather has been and will continue to be wet all week. Saturday rain in the forecast. Its anyone's guess how that field will hold up with significant rainfall, as there hasn't been a rain game played on it to my knowledge. I will try and post a weather update Sat AM from the stadium with my wireless card.

GL to all.
 

boilermaker

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This should be a great game. I'm leaning towards Mich. right now. Think they have better athletes and more weapons. Or as Joe Tiller said " More tools in their toolbox". Congrats on the win last saturday. Total domination.
 

gardenweasel

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hasn`t this been

hasn`t this been

a home dominated series the last few years?.....isn`t mich st coming off a bye?.......isn`t this a rivalry game?.........isn`t this the best mich st team in many moons?......isn`t michigan 1-2 on the road this year?

coming off a very big game vs purdue....will have to be sky high again...

you could make some of those same arguments about the k.c. chiefs....but they keep on winning.....

stats are not the end all...

just a counterpoint to keep the debate honest...;)
 
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CWood97

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Two answer a couple of your questions gw:

1) This may be the best performing MSU team in a long time (to date), but they aren't even close to being the most talented. 1997/1999/2000/2001 teams were all filled with experienced NFL caliber talent. This years team has a very tough road ahead of them and it will be very interesting to see how the perform down the stretch.

2) Absolutely this series has been home dominated. UM is 1-3 last 4 in EL (with only win coming in 1997 champ year) and MSU hasn't beat UM in A2 since 1991.

And thanks Boiler for the congrats. I thought UM would win the game, but not in that fashion. The B11 schedule makers were very tough on Tiller this year. Wisci and UM road games back to back is ridiculous, very hard to get the intensity level up two weeks in a row. With only one Big Ten loss, a Rose Bowl is still very possible for Purdue.....
 

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There are a couple of ways to look at this game from a bettor's view

1. Michigan is a public labeled team and when people see Michigan only given a team 4 points they jump on it. It doesn't really matter who they are playing.

2. Navarre hasn't won a HUGE league game on the road in forever. is he due????

3. I see it this way.......Vegas put out a number (4) to intice Michigan backers to load up and lose their money......

I may not play it but if I do it will be MSU and the points. Now I need to go wash my mouth out with soap for saying the MSU word.

P.S. CWood how did that game not go over last night. RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Consensus shows 62% are on Michigan State and Vegas set the line at 4.5. . . most wagering sites are down to 4 . . . if Vegas was trying to get money to come in on Michigan, I think they need to consider a new profession :rolleyes:

The real eye catcher here is that MSU is rated higher than UM in the polls yet are a dog in their own house! We already know the polls don't mean anything. . . Vegas is trying to send a message.

Just my two cents
 
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