mich still #2 in bcs
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I think it is because Michigan has played 12 games.
NOT good news for Michigan. Only .007 ahead of USC when USC has 2 more games to play.
NOT good news for Michigan. Only .007 ahead of USC when USC has 2 more games to play.
It's great news for Michigan. SC loses to ND or UCLA and there's a rematch. Exactly the way it should be.
no interest in a rematch
knew the public bs would be out in full force today "what a great game", "there should be a rematch", blah, blah, blah
i had mich +7
it was not a "great game"......great games are back and forth, each team leads, the outcome is in doubt.....was never really the case yesterday
personally, i'd be very tempted to lay whatever number they hang out on osu there if there was a rematch
now if sc loses and fla-ark each lose a game, it's a no brainer that there should be a rematch beacuse there would be nobody left with an argument.....(sorry nd, im a domer fan, but mich rolled the irish at home)
if sc loses and fla runs the table (esp of ark beats lsu), i think it's very debateable as to who deserves to be #2, fla or mich
just surprised that mich didnt end up #3 at best right now in the bcs, guess sc is gonna have to win with style points.......
funny thing is, the loser of sc-mich debate is gonna feel cheated and get the consolation prize, the rose bowl (the former granddaddy of them all) and could we be lining up for another possible
AP title for SC
BCS champ for Mich
knew the public bs would be out in full force today "what a great game", "there should be a rematch", blah, blah, blah
i had mich +7
it was not a "great game"......great games are back and forth, each team leads, the outcome is in doubt.....was never really the case yesterday
personally, i'd be very tempted to lay whatever number they hang out on osu there if there was a rematch
now if sc loses and fla-ark each lose a game, it's a no brainer that there should be a rematch beacuse there would be nobody left with an argument.....(sorry nd, im a domer fan, but mich rolled the irish at home)
if sc loses and fla runs the table (esp of ark beats lsu), i think it's very debateable as to who deserves to be #2, fla or mich
just surprised that mich didnt end up #3 at best right now in the bcs, guess sc is gonna have to win with style points.......
funny thing is, the loser of sc-mich debate is gonna feel cheated and get the consolation prize, the rose bowl (the former granddaddy of them all) and could we be lining up for another possible
AP title for SC
BCS champ for Mich
One can debate whether it was a great game, whether there should be rematches, if it is fair to OSU and so on, but if the idea of the BCS is to have the best two teams in the title game I dont think anyone can really dispute those two are Ohio State and Michigan.
no interest in a rematch
knew the public bs would be out in full force today "what a great game", "there should be a rematch", blah, blah, blah
i had mich +7
it was not a "great game"......great games are back and forth, each team leads, the outcome is in doubt.....was never really the case yesterday
personally, i'd be very tempted to lay whatever number they hang out on osu there if there was a rematch
now if sc loses and fla-ark each lose a game, it's a no brainer that there should be a rematch beacuse there would be nobody left with an argument.....(sorry nd, im a domer fan, but mich rolled the irish at home)
if sc loses and fla runs the table (esp of ark beats lsu), i think it's very debateable as to who deserves to be #2, fla or mich
just surprised that mich didnt end up #3 at best right now in the bcs, guess sc is gonna have to win with style points.......
funny thing is, the loser of sc-mich debate is gonna feel cheated and get the consolation prize, the rose bowl (the former granddaddy of them all) and could we be lining up for another possible
AP title for SC
BCS champ for Mich
Keep in mind SC probably gains ground in the computers if and when they win out. If they struggle with ND and still win, its possible they could lose ground in the polls given what UM (and OSU last year) did to ND. In any case, I think if SC wins out they'll be in the title game. If not, its a rematch.
Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country because they only won 3 games against BCS teams with a winning record? :shrug: (compared to USC who already has 7 and may finish with 9 wins against BCS teams with a winning record)
Or because Michigan trailed by double digits to Ohio St. late 4th quarter despite being +3 turnovers? :shrug: (yep, Michigan is the 2nd best team)
Wins over Ball St., CMU, and Vanderbilt in OOC? :shrug: (compared to USC with wins @Arkansas and Nebraska)
:nono: :nono: :nono:
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I have to agree....I mean, did that last non contested TD save Mich from dropping 6-7 spots? This rematch shit is ridiculous.
What about ND, ARKY or FL?
Arkansas only loss was to USC, who currently is #3 BCS. They have won since.
Or ND who may beat the #3 BCS team USC @USC! USC is a team who will have 7,8 or 9 wins against BCS teams with winning records!!!! :scared (Michigan only has 3)
Or FL who didn't end the season a LOSER like Michigan? ;142loser:
I don't know how people keep saying that "we know" OhioSt and Mich are best 2 teams.
OhioSt is deserving of #1....best team.
Michigan is a 1-loss team that played an easy schedule. They are lumped in with 5 other teams. Why are they being rewarded for playing and losing a conference game?
If ND had lost to OSU and not played Mich, should it matter that much?
I understand the head-to-head slightly, but how should Mich be ahead of Fla? Ark? USC?
They are being rewarded for when they lose when everyone dropped 10 spots when they lost. Oh wait, ND dropped 10 spots, everyone else still dropped 3-8 spots.
You lose, you drop. If Mich. loses in January, do we have to play it yet again? Is this 1972 USA/Russia basketball. Jeez.
OhioSt is deserving of #1....best team.
Michigan is a 1-loss team that played an easy schedule. They are lumped in with 5 other teams. Why are they being rewarded for playing and losing a conference game?
If ND had lost to OSU and not played Mich, should it matter that much?
I understand the head-to-head slightly, but how should Mich be ahead of Fla? Ark? USC?
They are being rewarded for when they lose when everyone dropped 10 spots when they lost. Oh wait, ND dropped 10 spots, everyone else still dropped 3-8 spots.
You lose, you drop. If Mich. loses in January, do we have to play it yet again? Is this 1972 USA/Russia basketball. Jeez.
USC is #2 in both BCS polls. If ND beats USC, ND should be moved to #2.
What is more impressive. :shrug:
Losing to the #1 team by 3pts (actually down double digits late 4th despite being +3 turnovers)
or
Beating the #2 team on the road who will have 7 or 8 wins against BCS teams with winning records. Oh yeah, the same team who has not lost since 2001 @home!
OPTION 2 is more impressive. That would be rewarding a WINNER! Sending Michigan to the BCS NC would be rewarding a LOSER! :nono:
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If you look at the history of 1 v2 when it happens late in the season (obviously only a handful of games) the loser has never dropped further than #3. It is vastly different earlier in the year. Right or wrong that is the way it has happened.
argue all you want
it doesn't really matter
if usc beats nd and ucla they are in. they will make up whatever fraction of a percentage they need by beating a number 5 ranked team and a team going to a bowl in ucla.
i hate usc, but they hold their own destiny.
usc is gonna win out no matter what. its sad. i don't want to see ohio st. michigan again. it was played and its over. one of you is right. the game was okay, but not great. i never thought for a second ohio st. would lose at any point. the only questoin was whether or not michigan would cover.
usc vs. ohio st. ohio st. favored by 6 is my guess.
gl
it doesn't really matter
if usc beats nd and ucla they are in. they will make up whatever fraction of a percentage they need by beating a number 5 ranked team and a team going to a bowl in ucla.
i hate usc, but they hold their own destiny.
usc is gonna win out no matter what. its sad. i don't want to see ohio st. michigan again. it was played and its over. one of you is right. the game was okay, but not great. i never thought for a second ohio st. would lose at any point. the only questoin was whether or not michigan would cover.
usc vs. ohio st. ohio st. favored by 6 is my guess.
gl
If USC wins out, no questions or doubts that they will play for the NC. End of story. Beat a big 12 co-champ (Nebraska), SEC co-champ (Arkansas) , and potentially ND. Can't deny that. The first 2 games mentioned above were double digit one-sided wins.
Although, Scott4USC please quit referring to turnovers keeping Michigan in the game as you are not mentioning 2 long runs by Ohio St (they wipe each other out) and personal foul call late. Did the latter happen, yes, but who knows what would of happened had OSU punted. And lastly, don't forget that this was at OSU. Sure the supposed great Michigan D got torched, but so did OSU's. Home field IMO means the world in sports, who knows what could of happened if this game was on a neutral site or at Michigan.
Nonetheless, USC's spot in the NC to lose.
jr11
Although, Scott4USC please quit referring to turnovers keeping Michigan in the game as you are not mentioning 2 long runs by Ohio St (they wipe each other out) and personal foul call late. Did the latter happen, yes, but who knows what would of happened had OSU punted. And lastly, don't forget that this was at OSU. Sure the supposed great Michigan D got torched, but so did OSU's. Home field IMO means the world in sports, who knows what could of happened if this game was on a neutral site or at Michigan.
Nonetheless, USC's spot in the NC to lose.
jr11
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Don't count out the Arky/Florida winner just yet. Espcially if the Irish win in South Central, which I expect.
after seeing the disparity in the numbers it's pretty clear that is either sc or mich vs ohio state
ark has no chance
nd doesnt have much of a chance either, the human polls wont put them above mich
fla has a little better chance but doubtful they will pass mich
the only question is if sc wins out, will they pass mich???? personally i dont think they should have to hope, i think they should be #2 right now but from the looks of the numbers they SHOULD pass mich if the beat nd and ucla
ark has no chance
nd doesnt have much of a chance either, the human polls wont put them above mich
fla has a little better chance but doubtful they will pass mich
the only question is if sc wins out, will they pass mich???? personally i dont think they should have to hope, i think they should be #2 right now but from the looks of the numbers they SHOULD pass mich if the beat nd and ucla
You are a smart fan! Why other fans don't understand this is beyond me. Here is a team (USC) who went out and earned everything they got. Yet s****d fans want to reward Michigan for losing to Ohio St. :shrug:
2 of the 3 turnovers by Ohio St. were UNFORCED turnovers. OSU kept Michigan in the game instead of Michigan competing. That is my argument.
The 2 long TD runs do not wipe out the turnovers. Playing DEFENSE is part of the game and UM needs to tackle and make plays. Receiving 2 UNFORCED turnovers is not making plays. It is called receiving 2 gifts wrapped up by Ohio St.
Why would anyone take away 2 great TD runs by OSU? They earned that. Michigan did NOT earn 2 of OSU's turnovers. That is the argument!
Yes that is tough. Always tough to go play on the road. That is why SEC tries and play all home games.
I never thought either team had great defenses to begin with.
YEP, and the #1 reason is because USC tries to play one of the toughest schedules in the country year in year out. USC earns everything they get.
