Mike Slive...

[Skipper]

you going to suspend Quinton Dial for the BCS championship game like you did Trae Elson from Ole Miss, and DJ Swearinger from South Carolina?

You cannot stop something you started and ANYONE that can look at the Elston hit on Jordan Lee from UTEP and think it was worse than Dial's hit on Aaron Murray is blind.

Don't stop something you started Slive.

opcorn2

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

If Slive doesn't do it, I'm sure Saban will

:SIB

 

[forthetide2]

you going to suspend Quinton Dial for the BCS championship game like you did Trae Elson from Ole Miss, and DJ Swearinger from South Carolina?

You cannot stop something you started and ANYONE that can look at the Elston hit on Jordan Lee from UTEP and think it was worse than Dial's hit on Aaron Murray is blind.

Don't stop something you started Slive.

opcorn2

You can't block a defender now??? Wtf

 

[Jaxx]

You can't block a defender now??? Wtf

Your joking right?

:facepalm:

 

[Cie]

Dial should be suspended for going high.

 

[Skipper]

You can't block a defender now??? Wtf

You can't hit a receiver now:shrug:

Bottom line, it was a chicken shit shot - the ref was 4 yards away, and I was watching the game with my brother in law, who is a HUGE Bama fan (RollTide can verify this) and he even said there was no way that shouldn't be a flag AND a suspension...

Based on the way the SEC office has suspended players based on helmet to helmet cheap shots.
opcorn2

 

[Skipper]

Dial should be suspended for going high.

THIS

On the DJ Swearinger suspension for hit on UAB's Patrick Hearn:

The SEC ruled that Swearinger's hit was in violation of Rule 9-1-4 of the NCAA Football Rule Book, which reads, ?No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder.?

"These rules are for the protection of the health and safety of our players on both sides of the ball,? said SEC commissioner Mike Slive. ?It is imperative that our student-athletes understand the importance of this rule. Our motivation in making these decisions is to protect our student-athletes.?

 

[Skipper]

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What that video doesn't show is that Murray was 5 yards away from the guy returning the interception. In the full replay you can see clearly Dial peeling back, turning and looking for someone to block because the returner was coming his way. When he turned the only player there was Murray, Murray had a clear shot to the returner to make the tackle. Now, for some reason Murray wasn't even trying to make a play on the returner, it looked almost like he was gonna let the guy go right by him if he wasn't tackled but is Dial supposed to make that call and just give him a free pass? Hell no, you clean the guys clock...if he has his thumb up his ass with a play 5 yards from him...TOO BAD!

My beef with the argument on this play is everyone calling Murray a "defenseless player". He was not a QB anymore, he was essentially a LB or DL. What if Dial wouldn't have blocked him and Murray made a TD saving tackle? You've gotta block man...it's part of the game. If that would've happened late after a play or just about any other situation he should've been thrown out of the game...but Murray was fair game in that play and if he's honest he'd tell you so.

Watch the full replay! The wide view showing the full field of play. Murray was 5 yards from the returner, that is key here. He wasn't out in the middle of nowhere he was right in the middle of it all, he just wasn't acting like it.

All that said about the "defenseless player" BS I will say the hit was high and should've been flagged for helmet to helmet but not suspended.

The key word in the suspension rule is "defenseless player". Murray was not defenseless on this play, he just didn't defend himself and he paid the price.

 

[TLankford]

agree on flag. no on suspension.

murray was 0 threat to make that tackle though :mj07:

 

[Skipper]

agree on flag. no on suspension.

murray was 0 threat to make that tackle though :mj07:

Good stuff, everyone has their opinions, but I sure as hell am not gonna argue with the above post.

 

[forthetide2]

agree on flag. no on suspension.

murray was 0 threat to make that tackle though :mj07:

i agree he wasn't gonna make the tackle because he wasn't even thinking about making an attempt...but he was close enough to be involved in the play, you have to block the guy. I'm obviously a little biased but I do try to look at everything objectively and there's no rule in college football I hate more than the very vague "defenseless player" rule. The defenselss player needs to be clearly defined.

 

[Skipper]

What that video doesn't show is that Murray was 5 yards away from the guy returning the interception. In the full replay you can see clearly Dial peeling back, turning and looking for someone to block because the returner was coming his way. When he turned the only player there was Murray, Murray had a clear shot to the returner to make the tackle. Now, for some reason Murray wasn't even trying to make a play on the returner, it looked almost like he was gonna let the guy go right by him if he wasn't tackled but is Dial supposed to make that call and just give him a free pass? Hell no, you clean the guys clock...if he has his thumb up his ass with a play 5 yards from him...TOO BAD!

My beef with the argument on this play is everyone calling Murray a "defenseless player". He was not a QB anymore, he was essentially a LB or DL. What if Dial wouldn't have blocked him and Murray made a TD saving tackle? You've gotta block man...it's part of the game. If that would've happened late after a play or just about any other situation he should've been thrown out of the game...but Murray was fair game in that play and if he's honest he'd tell you so.

Watch the full replay! The wide view showing the full field of play. Murray was 5 yards from the returner, that is key here. He wasn't out in the middle of nowhere he was right in the middle of it all, he just wasn't acting like it.

All that said about the "defenseless player" BS I will say the hit was high and should've been flagged for helmet to helmet but not suspended.

The key word in the suspension rule is "defenseless player". Murray was not defenseless on this play, he just didn't defend himself and he paid the price.

You don't have to be on offense to be a defenseless player. Early thoughts are that he should and might be suspended. Former SEC official Rocky Goode will be on the radio here in an hour, so I will see what he says.

The worst thing for Bama fans is they review "frame by frame", and that is not good. Listen, I don't know or think it will matter, but Slive set an example and my response if be careful what you wish for.

 

[forthetide2]

You don't have to be on offense to be a defenseless player. Early thoughts are that he should and might be suspended. Former SEC official Rocky Goode will be on the radio here in an hour, so I will see what he says.

The worst thing for Bama fans is they review "frame by frame", and that is not good. Listen, I don't know or think it will matter, but Slive set an example and my response if be careful what you wish for.

I'm not looking at this as a Bama fan dude, i'm looking at this as a college football fan. Like I said, flag for helmet to helmet but no suspension. Murray had an opportunity to make a play there.

I don't think Dial being out of the NC game would matter in the least so I'm not at all worried about the impact of a suspension, there wouldn't be a drop off without Dial.

Also, let me know what Goode's opinion is. I always liked that dude, he used to come on the OD alot.

 

[RollTide72]

I hope when the UGA Athletic Department sent in their video and complaint to the SEC office they included this video

Dial is a 5th year senior. If Slive suspends him his college career is over. It would be chickenshit if they do suspend him. I was watching the game with a houseful of friends and commented that he probably should have received a 15 yard penalty.

I was listening to Tim Brando on Finebaum earlier today. He says that Dial should be suspended. This coming from the guy who rants and raves that football is a contact sport. The pussification of America continues.

 

[Cie]

i couldn't care less if this is dial's first game or his last. Actions have consequences in my world. if the rule is no projecting at the head/neck of defenseless player, then then dial deserves to take a seat.

Elston projected himself at the receiver's chest to separate him from a td catch. Slive made a bad decision in suspending Elston and deserves criticism for selective enforcement of rules.

 

[Jaxx]

It was a vicious helmet to helmet hit to try and hurt the player no doubt. Whether he was defenseless or not is a matter of opinion if you are a bama fan or not it appears. He was defenseless by any definition. I dont care if he was 5 or 20 yards from the play. Hope he gets his ass supspended.

 

[Cie]

It was a vicious helmet to helmet hit to try and hurt the player no doubt. Whether he was defenseless or not is a matter of opinion if you are a bama fan or not it appears. He was defenseless by any definition. I dont care if he was 5 or 20 yards from the play. Hope he gets his ass supspended.

YouTube the elston hit that got him suspended. That was an actual football play, unlike the dial hit.

Bama fans watching game with us were calling for sabear to sit dial immediately. I was in agreement

 

[UGA12]

I hope when the UGA Athletic Department sent in their video and complaint to the SEC office they included this video

Dial is a 5th year senior. If Slive suspends him his college career is over. It would be chickenshit if they do suspend him. I was watching the game with a houseful of friends and commented that he probably should have received a 15 yard penalty.

I was listening to Tim Brando on Finebaum earlier today. He says that Dial should be suspended. This coming from the guy who rants and raves that football is a contact sport. The pussification of America continues.

I hope they do as well and I hope his ass is suspended. Yet another chicken shit action by someone that cant handle "the moment". Dials actions had zero outcome to the game and if the league does not want to suspend him then I am fine with that, but they better never suspend anyone player for this infraction in the future or they will be crucified. Given the leagues lack of action against Fairly when targeting Murray, I doubt they will take any action here either.

 

[Skipper]

I hope they do as well and I hope his ass is suspended. Yet another chicken shit action by someone that cant handle "the moment". Dials actions had zero outcome to the game and if the league does not want to suspend him then I am fine with that, but they better never suspend anyone player for this infraction in the future or they will be crucified. Given the leagues lack of action against Fairly when targeting Murray, I doubt they will take any action here either.

THIS :toast: