Move Over Wilt

[Hashish]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jack-t...-ncaab.html;_ylt=ArdJ6stDrnJ3wwterlRgxqzevbYF

My sister used to live in the sticks near Grinnell. There sure isn't much else to do around there than practice your shot.

I wonder if he scores like Wilt off the court, too.

 

[Sportsaholic]

This is BULLSHIT! Who would want to play at a program that pulls this crap..........:shrug:



Coach: "Get the ball to Jack every time down the court"..........



Good times in DIII...................:facepalm:

 

[layinwood]

Who cares about the kid or the program that he played for. How bad is the freaking other team that a kid like that can score that many points and mainly shooting Js. He may have broken down my D but there is no way he would have gotten that shot off that many times. How are these kids playing college ball? I don't care what level it is.

 

[Jord20]

Check out some highlights on the bottom. Dude was hitting some contested 3s from deep.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2012/11/grinnell-taylor-puts-scoring-record-at-138

 

[Sportsaholic]

Check out some highlights on the bottom. Dude was hitting some contested 3s from deep.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2012/11/grinnell-taylor-puts-scoring-record-at-138

Has to be arrows kid..............:0003

 

[saint]

If I was playing against him he wouldn't have made it to 100 I would have broken his nose through his skull by then.

And this kid is getting all kinds of media hype? This is disgusting.

 

[Hashish]

Has to be arrows kid..............:0003

:142smilie He is from Wisconsin...

 

[Hashish]

If I was playing against him he wouldn't have made it to 100 I would have broken his nose through his skull by then.

And this kid is getting all kinds of media hype? This is disgusting.

I do find it disgusting that you want to smash a kid's nose through his skull for putting a ball through a hoop. Get a fucking grip.

 

[Sportsaholic]

I do find it disgusting that you want to smash a kid's nose through his skull for putting a ball through a hoop. Get a fucking grip.

I agree, much easier to take a knee out.....:0008

 

[Mags]

If I was playing against him he wouldn't have made it to 100 I would have broken his nose through his skull by then.

And this kid is getting all kinds of media hype? This is disgusting.

Just curious, but lets say it was a DIII football game, and a kid rushed for like 400 yards in the game.... would you be all for taking the kids knee out for doing so well?

I may be wrong, but I have a hunch that folks see no problem with someone rushing for 400 yards, for example, but they do with a kid scoring over 100 points.....

Not sure why - the goal in football is to get yards to get to the endzone and score. In basketball, it is about putting the ball in the hoop. I guess I have no problem with what this kid did. I've seen Grinnell play in person - it is just crazy - like Loyola Marymount from the 90's, but on steriods.

Every 2 minutes, there is 5 new guys to come into the game by Grinnell. They just keep running in new lines, just like hockey does. And press, press, press and shoot 3's. It is an interesting strategy, although they have not done well at the national level with that style (never won a DIII playoff game as of yet if I remember right).

They play basketball like the Patriots play football - in a hurry up, throwing the ball all the time.

I guess the only different about this particular game is that they didn't substitute for Taylor as much as they normally would - which means he got more minutes and a lot more shots.

Give him credit - it isn't easy making that many shots - and as you saw from the highlights, it is not like he was shooting uncontested layups all game.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

[saint]

I do find it disgusting that you want to smash a kid's nose through his skull for putting a ball through a hoop. Get a fucking grip.

It's disrespectful for that player to do that, and for his coach for not sitting him down. If I were coach I would have told him to stop shooting, and if he didn't I would have sat him. That's not an accomplishment. Do you know how many other kids in this country could do that if they were selfish enough and if they had a coach ignorant enough to allow it? That's no accomplishment in my book.

You must not have played competitive sports. No way I or anyone I grew up with would have let him disrespect us like that. If he is going to score it would have been at the line because I would have fouled him hard every time. The same happens in professional sports.

 

[yyz]

It's disrespectful for that player to do that, and for his coach for not sitting him down. If I were coach I would have told him to stop shooting, and if he didn't I would have sat him. That's not an accomplishment. Do you know how many other kids in this country could do that if they were selfish enough and if they had a coach ignorant enough to allow it? That's no accomplishment in my book.

You must not have played competitive sports. No way I or anyone I grew up with would have let him disrespect us like that. If he is going to score it would have been at the line because I would have fouled him hard every time. The same happens in professional sports.

If your team is that shitty, you should punch each other.

 

[Mags]

It's disrespectful for that player to do that, and for his coach for not sitting him down. If I were coach I would have told him to stop shooting, and if he didn't I would have sat him. That's not an accomplishment. Do you know how many other kids in this country could do that if they were selfish enough and if they had a coach ignorant enough to allow it? That's no accomplishment in my book.

You must not have played competitive sports. No way I or anyone I grew up with would have let him disrespect us like that. If he is going to score it would have been at the line because I would have fouled him hard every time. The same happens in professional sports.

Actually I did play college hoops.....

Again, I ask, I'm guessing you are ok with a guy running for 400 yards. This kid did the same thing, albeit basketball. It's not like a football team asks their right guard to run wiht the football because their running back is getting too many yards. This kid is their best shooter - and they let him shoot.

The other team could have done a variety of things to stop him - slow the game down, for example, so he didn't get so many shots. Double team him, etc.

I'm not a fan of the game he had, but don't see anything wrong with it. What about the kid hitting 4 HR in a game? Is that wrong? Should he bunt in his fourth atbat, instead of swinging for the fences? Should the coach take him out of the game when he is going for his 4th HR?

It just seems (at least to me) that people look at record games in baskeball differently than football or baseball. But I guess it shouldn't be different?

 

[arrow]

ACTUALLY

ACTUALLY

Grinnell Iowa is just outside of Des Moines, Iowa. This is a tough school to get into grade wise and the type of athletes they get are not the big time basketball players. A few years back this school was on espn for the amount of points they were scoring a game. they have only won 4 conference championships in the last 24 years. The coach is actually the son of the coach who has coached there for the past 23 years. This is how a dIII school recruits basketball players who want to have fun but still go to a strong academic program. He uses it as a tool to be able to say that if your a scorer i will give you a chance to show the world how good you are. this kid had a miserable day shooting the game before and the coach just told his kids the morning of the game that we are going to get him as many shots as he can get to get his confidence back,lol the coach told espn radio yesterday in a interview with maddog that people can think what they want, but we get exposure from this type of effort and we teach our kids to think outside the box. We do not have kids come to our program to be NBA players, they will get a great education , move on to a career and have some great stories to tell about how they scored 138 points in a basketball game in college. How else would we get basketball players to come to a small private school in Iowa in 30 degrees below weather for 3 months. We have fun and our kids really enjoy coming to practice everyday. I would never coach my kids to do what they did, but the coach really did a good job of defending his program and style of play and how enjoyable he makes basketball for his kids everyday. The other coach had a kid score 70 points and he said his team had a blast and did not see anything wrong with the outcome.

ARROW

 

[Old School]

I'm not a fan of the game he had, but don't see anything wrong with it. What
about the kid hitting 4 HR in a game? Is that wrong? Should he bunt in his
fourth atbat, instead of swinging for the fences? Should the coach take him out
of the game when he is going for his 4th HR?

his coach should expect a high hard one inside that puts his fence boomer hitter on the seat of his pants..

and the coach who had a guy drop 100 plus on his squad should have had everyone on his bench hacking away at the "stud" who wanted to drop 100 plus on them..

ain't going to sit there and watch you hit jumper after jumper without you being checked..and checked hard..

 

[Mags]

his coach should expect a high hard one inside that puts his fence boomer hitter on the seat of his pants..

and the coach who had a guy drop 100 plus on his squad should have had everyone on his bench hacking away at the "stud" who wanted to drop 100 plus on them..

ain't going to sit there and watch you hit jumper after jumper without you being checked..and checked hard..

I understand what you are saying. You would commit a hard, possibly flagrant foul to teach him a lesson. I guess that is no different if an NFL team committed an unsportsmanlike penalty on Adrian Peterson by trying to take out his knees after the whistle because he was running wild on your team.

Think about it...I think most folks would say it is unacceptable to commit a unsportsmanlike penalty against Peterson in that instance. Most would say Peterson is doing nothing wrong, and the defense should man up and play better defense, not get cheap with Peterson.

I just can't understand the difference here? Couldn't the team they were playing just play better defense, instead of taking cheap shots at the kid via hard fouls?

And the baseball example of throwing inside to try to hurt or scare the kid with 3 HRs in the game.....I do think that is bush league. It is the pitchers job to get the kid out and the hitters job to hit the ball. If one player is better than the other, so be it.

I'm surprised at those who are suggesting that to make up for a lack of talent by the pitcher or defense, the correct approach would be to commit a hard, unsportsmanlike or flagrant foul.

I guess THAT is what seems unsportsmanlike. The obvious answe is for the defense to get better?

Think about it. It is YOUR kid who hit 3 HR in a little league game. So the bad pitcher on the other team gets "even" by hitting him in the head with a pitch? And that is the right response?

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. These are kids, the Grinnell kid is playing D3 basketball with no scholarship. It's not like he is a professional.

 

[Mags]

his coach should expect a high hard one inside that puts his fence boomer hitter on the seat of his pants..

and the coach who had a guy drop 100 plus on his squad should have had everyone on his bench hacking away at the "stud" who wanted to drop 100 plus on them..

ain't going to sit there and watch you hit jumper after jumper without you being checked..and checked hard..

Old School....another thing to think about with your approach....one hard foul will lead to a retaliatory one...and back and forth, until a fight breaks out....

These are kids. I just don't think that is how the game is played by kids. Now, if they are professionals, then your approach may have some merit, since they are being paid to win.

 

[saint]

We live in a "me me me"society.

Congrat-u-fucking lations. You play D3. So you dropped 100+. Big fucking deal. If you were that good you'd be in D1.

Old School I'm glad someone agrees with me. I think this just comes down to what your personal morals are. Me...showing the proper respect ranks pretty high. The only goal of him putting up that many points is singular- for him. It doesn't help his team. The game is over.

The difference is a 400 yd rusher doesn't mean the score is being inflated and in football the majority of the offense is always run through the RB. This is completely different.

Again, congrats bro. You can sit with you grandkids with a semi reminiscing about the time you scored 100+ but at the end of the day it was still D3.

 

[yyz]

Again, congrats bro. You can sit with you grandkids with a semi reminiscing about the time you scored 100+ but at the end of the day it was still D3.

At the end of the day......you are still talking about him, and he never heard of you.

:shrug:

 

[Mags]

The difference is a 400 yd rusher doesn't mean the score is being inflated and in football the majority of the offense is always run through the RB. This is completely different.

The FBS college record for rushing yards is held by Ladanian Tomlinson of TCU, rushing for 406 yards on 11/20/1999 versus UTEP.

The final score of that game was 52-24, TCU winning.

It appears that TCU didn't need all of those rushing yards to win the game. They likely were "running up the score" to get Tomlinson the record.

There is no difference - to set LT's record, or Taylor's record, one needs to have a great game and a coach willing to let them play enough, and give them enough opportunities, to set the record.

LT had 43 rushes in that game for TCU. They likely had the game well in hand when we had 20 rushes.

Sorry, Saint, there isn't any difference here. To set records requires these type of efforts.

Not sure why this Jack Taylor is being singled out - we should hold every record holder accountable for being a jerk - because they were good enough to do so.

Sorry you feel so strongly about this - but it just doesn't feel any different than LT in this case.

Give the kid a break - what an effort!